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DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. * 2
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https://viral.americanewshub.com/2017/10/24/breaking-hillary-clinton-campaign-paid-infamous-trump-dossier/?fb=abw

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/fake-trump-russia-dossier-was-funded-by-clinton-campaign-and-dnc/

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/clinton-campaign-dnc-helped-pay-for-work-on-dossier-about-russia-and-trump/


I knew the the DNC and the Clintons were corrupt, but never to that extent... The DNC admitted in court that they fucked over Sanders in favor of Hillary. I know that the Clinton foundation has been used for favors, but now that Russia thing the Democrats have been trying to pin on Trump for months is now proven to be a Clinton and DNC funded fraud...

The CLintons need to get the fuck away from the DNC cause clearly, they are a horrible influence. I don't know how they managed to grab the entire DNC by the balls like that... What dirt can they possibly have on everyone in the DNC?

The Democrats can't win if they are caught publicly cheating every other week.

Plus, the last election proved that relentlessly shitting on the Republican part and Trump didn't twork. Gathering hundreds of Hollywood celebrity didn't work. Practically buying CNN didn't work.

You think maybe they should try something farfetch'ed like maybe having policies and positions on the issues that are at stake in the country? They could even try listening to the people and take notes. Who knows...


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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: Patlal] * 2
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Good post, pat. They have been trying and trying to make something out of the russian story for what, a year now, and still have come up empty. Yet we keep seeing in the media that they are closing in, its about to happen, any day now, and this has been going on forever. Do they think the sheep will keep believing forever or will some of them start to realize its fake news? Public confidence in the major media is at an all time low but they keep on with the same old garbage.


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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: Stonehenge]
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Hillary definitely is insane and I'm really not surprised at all that she'd sink that low. Especially when you hear her talk about the election and the hatred and resentment that followed. So yes Hillary is horrible and had a stranglehold over the DNC to the point where we couldn't have a guy like Bernie which a lot of people really liked.


All that being said,it seems whenever trump does or says something really bad and someone defends it or he defends it I constantly hear "Well Obama did X so that's why Y happened" or "The Clintons did X while bill was in office so Y happened and Trump is powerless to make it better" I just think it's time to not give a shit about Hillary let her curl up somewhere and stop talking like she's also president. Same with Obama he's giving exorbitant payed speeches which is bad but for god sakes stop talking about him like he still has power. Trump is president now and we have to judge him on his actions alone not comparatively to people who aren't in office.


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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: Patlal]
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I knew the the DNC and the Clintons were corrupt, but never to that extent..


I don't think political parties paying for opposition research is anything new .  You would be an incredible fool if you were running a campaign against a self proclaimed billionaire with a suspicious hair /skin condition and didn't try to find out what he has been up to in other countries .
  The RNC has been researching Hillary since before they all needed viagra and it looks like  all we've learned from that is if your the president, always cum in your sidechicks mouth ,and emails are really fucking important .


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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: Psilynut2]
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Stonehenge said:
Good post, pat. They have been trying and trying to make something out of the russian story for what, a year now, and still have come up empty. Yet we keep seeing in the media that they are closing in, its about to happen, any day now, and this has been going on forever. Do they think the sheep will keep believing forever or will some of them start to realize its fake news? Public confidence in the major media is at an all time low but they keep on with the same old garbage.


A year in a wide ranging federal investigation isn't very long, and let's not forget the mueller investigation is only five months old. The congressional investigations are a joke.


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I knew the the DNC and the Clintons were corrupt, but never to that extent..


I don't think political parties paying for opposition research is anything new .  You would be an incredible fool if you were running a campaign against a self proclaimed billionaire with a suspicious hair /skin condition and didn't try to find out what he has been up to in other countries .
  The RNC has been researching Hillary since before they all needed viagra and it looks like  all we've learned from that is if your the president, always cum in your sidechicks mouth ,and emails are really fucking important .


I'm not really sure why Trumps people want to reintroduce the country to the dossier. I mean, there is absolutely no scandal in the DNC or Clinton paying for the report. This kind of research is exactly what campaigns have been paying for for decades..., ESPECIALLY on a candidate who had never run for office before and subject to this kind of scrutiny.

The fact is Clinton NEVER used any of the information in the dossier against Trump. The dossier eventually ended up in the hands of members of the senate intelligence committee, who decided to alert the FBI due to some of the serious allegations made in the report. The Intelligence community considered the reporting credible enough to investigate some of the claims, and has confirmed many of the details. The dossier is hardly fake news.


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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: koods] * 3
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The most salacious details of the dossier remain unconfirmed. I agree, politics and the digging of dirt go hand in hand.

Let the chips fall where they may; but I won't rush to judgement of any type until Meuller reports his findings.....I hope there is nothing as it would be very damaging to this country. But, the more I read, it seems people want there to be wrongdoing for the sake of Trump hate.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: koods] * 2
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koods said:
The congressional investigations are a joke.


Congress has access to the best intelligence in the world, a ton of public pressure from people like you, yet they haven't been able to find anything.

That's doesn't mean it's a joke, it means there's nothing to be found.


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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Congressional investigations are partisan circuses and kangaroo courts with no prosecutorial power.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: koods]
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Here's the dossier:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Congressional investigations are partisan circuses and kangaroo courts with no prosecutorial power.

Here's the dossier:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html


Funny you complain about partisanship when the dossier was funded by the Clinton campaign "to dig up dirt on Mr Trump".

If you're paid to provide dirt, you might feel obligated to exaggerate to get paid.  Regardless, is there anything in there that's noteworthy?


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Actually the dossier was a bipartisan effort started by GOP candidates and then offered to democrats when Trump was going to win the nomination


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: koods]
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Doesn't matter.  The funding was to dig up dirt on Trump, and the report was likely biased to make sure it accomplished that.

Regardless, is there anything in there that's noteworthy that we can discuss further?


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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Trump Jr. 15 minute meeting with a Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya.
Veselnitskaya is a business lawyer with Kremlin connections. Apparently returns empty handed.

-Media says "Borders on treason!", "Is treason!"

DNC and Clinton campaign pay money to Fusion GPS to produce a dossier on Trump
Fusion GPS hired a former British spy Christopher Steele to do research
Steele sourced information citing Kremlin officials.

-Media says "Opposition research, everyone does it!"

_Alternate reality version_

Clinton campaign 15 minute meeting with a Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya.
Veselnitskaya is a business lawyer with Kremlin connections. Apparently returns empty handed.

-Media says "Opposition research, everyone does it!"

Trump campaign pays money to Fusion GPS to produce a dossier on Trump
Fusion GPS hired a former British spy Christopher Steele to do research
Steele sourced information citing Kremlin officials.

-Media says "Borders on treason!", "Is treason!"


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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: Rahz]
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YES!!!!

The trump Russia grand jury issued indictments today. Unknown who the targets are.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: koods]
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Plus, the last election proved that relentlessly shitting on the Republican part and Trump didn't twork. Gathering hundreds of Hollywood celebrity didn't work. Practically buying CNN didn't work.


The Russian government stealing emails from the Clinton campaign as "part of their effort to help trump"*. That worked.


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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: koods]
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so did conservstive media outlets :yawn:


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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Actually the dossier was a bipartisan effort started by GOP candidates and then offered to democrats when Trump was going to win the nomination


this is actually true, but koods doesn't want to see the significance of this.

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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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Oh, man.  That user script was really worth it.

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Re: DNC and Clinton financed the fake Russia Trump Dossier. [Re: chibiabos]
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