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Clinton pushes party to recognise Florida delegates
    #7950382 - 01/29/08 01:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The Clinton camp today renewed efforts to force the Democratic party to recognise the outcome of the Florida primary and allow the state's 185 delegates to be counted in a tight race.

Mark Penn, Hillary Clinton's chief strategist, said they would push the Democratic National Committee to allow the results of both Florida and Michigan to be counted at the party's convention in August. Any challenge by Clinton supporters will be vigorously resisted by the Obama camp.



Hundreds of thousands of Democrats took part in today's primary, outstripping the numbers who participated in earlier caucuses and primaries.
However the Democratic national committee (DNC), the party's ruling body, will not recognise the outcome because the state broke party rules by holding its primary early. "Nothing has changed," a party source said. "Florida will still have zero delegates. The party has booked no rooms for them at the convention."

Hillary Clinton is challenging that ruling. Her chief strategist, Mark Penn, held a phone conference with reporters today on 'Why Florida matters' and Clinton was scheduled to hold a party in Davie, Florida, last night.

The Clinton team said that while it was reluctant to get into an argument with the DNC the votes of 1 million people mattered.

Penn said that while the candidates had not campaigned in Florida - though he accused Obama of breaching the rules by running ads - voters had seen the televised debates and had followed the campaigns elsewhere. "That makes it an election," he said.

Florida could become pivotal for the Democratic party in much the same way that it was central to the outcome of the 2000 presidential election between George Bush and Al Gore in which the result came down to the courts and hanging chads.

It is the fourth most populous state in the country and pressure will mount on the Democratic national committee to review its decision, not just from the Clintons but influential Democratic figures from Michigan, which has also been stripped of its delegates, and Florida.

The DNC in November stripped the state of its delegates when it opted to hold its primary before February 5. Florida was fed up that small states going early such as Iowa and New Hampshire received almost all the media attention.

Barack Obama and Clinton signed voluntary agreements not to campaign in rebel states, Michigan as well as Florida.

Clinton won Michigan, which held its primary on January 15 and which has 128 delegates, mainly because her name remained on the ballot while Obama removed his.

To win the Democratic nomination, Clinton or Obama needs a majority of the 4,049 delegates to the party convention. Against that background, the combined number of delegates from Florida, 313, could become all-important.

The Democratic party source said that it was unlikely that the issue would go to the courts, though there were court challenges in the run-up to the Florida and Michigan contests.

He noted that the supreme court ruled two decades ago that parties had the right to decide how to organise their own contests. The source said the issue could be decided by the party's credentials committee, which will have about 180 members from across the country. The make-up will be dictated by the results of the primaries and caucuses.

Supporters of Obama and John Edwards will be on the committee and would almost certainly oppose Michigan and Florida being allowed to send delegates.

Professor Michael McDonald, a specialist on elections at Virginia's George Mason University, said: "This is largely a matter for the political parties to decide since they get to set their own rules for how they select their presidential nominee.

"It may be that at the Democratic convention, if a nominee emerges with a majority of delegates, that the nominee would change the rules to seat the delegates from Michigan and Florida. Clinton is the nominee most likely to take this action."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/hillaryclinton/story/0,,2248806,00.html


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Re: Clinton pushes party to recognise Florida delegates [Re: lonestar2004]
    #19943683 - 05/05/14 09:52 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

hmmmm

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    #19943684 - 05/05/14 09:53 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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