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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Why not a nuke?

Your feelings don't matter.  I want to know why you think they have strict laws around owning or building one?  Even if you are another country for that matter (north korea...cough)

Adding to that...is the fact that all these guns ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_II_weapons ) are being heavily regulated, an assault on freedom?  Yes or no?


I can assure you...there are many people who also feel your machine gun is just as pointless to own as a nuke (hypothetically speaking)

Where, how and why do you draw a line at some weapons...and where is that line before your freedom is stepped on?


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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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haha that was so unbelievably relevant


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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Masked]
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Because you can fire off a machine gun without leveling a large city.

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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 2
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Nobody wants a nuclear weapon, you're being ridiculous and acting like a nut.




I want 100 of the kickass new generation Russian ICBM's that each fly 17.000 miles and then MIRV out to 15 warheads of 150-300 kT each.

Once I got those I immediately hand them over to the Dutch Armed Forces and presto: Holland is a nuclear nation and gets to sit with the big boys around the table to decide the fate of the world together.

I would love it if Holland went nuclear. Not just as a deterrant but also to be taken seriously as a nation by the powers that be.


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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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I see you are ignoring the other weapons I talked about and focusing solely on the nuke. Lol fine.

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Because you can fire off a machine gun without leveling a large city.




Hmm so your line is the difference by how many lives can be lost or the totality of destruction with a nuke vs machine gun?

But nukes don't kill people bodhi...shitty people kill people.  Why stop them from having the ability to own a nuke?

You sound like someone who wants to put heavier restrictions on owning an assault weapon because they make killing people easy. 

Careful bodhi....you are stepping on freedom with that line of thinking


Nukes for all!


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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Masked]
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Ok nukes for all. I fully agree. :feelsjohngoodman:

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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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pointless arguments are pointless.

all of this past few pages have been nothing but a huge regressive circle jerk of personal incredulity.

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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Freedom and all

Automatic weapons, biological weapons, etc....all should be for the taking


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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Masked]
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that is just freedom bondage.

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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Masked] * 1
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I wish the ridiculous arguments would stop. Every time I see this "why can't we all just have ICBMs" I literally face palm.

That's like saying "It's okay for a 16 year old and an 18 year old to have sex, so it's fine for an 13 year old and a 19 year old to have sex, or a 16 year old and a 40 year old."


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Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Ok nukes for all. I fully agree. :feelsjohngoodman:



except north korea - just blow them the fuck up


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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Shroomslip]
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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline

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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Shroomslip]
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That's a ridiculous comparison but you are free to make it nonetheless.

But now that someone decently credible and reasonable to talk with is here...

Can you explain why lines are drawn for what weapons are acceptable and what ones are not, for a society?

Does the right to own an assault weapon mean you are free?  And if you don't, you aren't?

Are these regulations for the state's reasonable?  Still have your freedom regardless?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_II_weapons

Would putting assault rifles on the same list now make you not free?

P.s.  you should also note I'm not making arguements.  Merely questions


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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Masked]
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regressive nonsense arguments of personal incredulity are not "credible and reasonable".

Quote:
Does the right to own an assault weapon mean you are free?  And if you don't, you aren't?




this is called circular reasoning and is fallacious and leads nowhere but error.

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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Masked]
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How is it ridiculous? Because you're against people sexually abusing kids but not disarming people? I'd say it's a pretty good comparison. On average, 13 year old girls are ready to begin reproducing, and for the longest time, it was the norm. It may be risky for someone that young to give birth, but they're fully "functional" at that point. A bullet fired from a bolt action rifle is every bit as deadly as a bullet fired from an automatic. Just as a 13 year old's sexual organs are every bit as functional as an adult's. It can be argued that both are "more dangerous". The only difference between the two situations is your own morality and opinions on the subject matter.

EDIT: One sec and I'll address the rest of your post.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline

Edited by Shroomslip (10/08/17 07:35 PM)

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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: akira_akuma]
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Wrong.  But continue pontificating :cheers:


The strongest defense I hear for wanting to keep the right to own assault weapons is freedom.  And taking away such weapons violates freedom.

My questions ponder this idea


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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Shroomslip]
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Shroomslip said:
How is it ridiculous? Because you're against people sexually abusing kids but not disarming people? I'd say it's a pretty good comparison. On average, 13 year old girls are ready to begin reproducing, and for the longest time, it was the norm. It may be risky for someone that young to give birth, but they're fully "functional" at that point. A bullet fired from a bolt action rifle is every bit as deadly as a bullet fired from an automatic. Just as a 13 year old's sexual organs are every bit as functional as an adult's. It can be argued that both are "more dangerous". The only difference between the two situations is your own morality and opinions on the subject matter.

EDIT: One sec and I'll address the rest of your post.



I have made my opinions quite clear.  I'm on the fence.  And I haven't shared my morality on the subject

I ask questions, the defensiveness ensues, and then the last stage is assumptions

I'm asking questions.  Please answer my previous questions so I can better understand your logic of losing freedom by putting heavier restrictions on certain guns (something your country already does as I've pointed out)


Disarming people means these specific weapons in question?  To put assault rifles on your "restricted list" with automatics means you are disarmed?

I'm probing the minds of the average pro gun American.

I'm not anti gun for the record


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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Masked]
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The entire crux of your argument for taking them away is that people were killed by it. Why not ban alcohol if thats the case, its many magnitudes more dangerous than "assault" weapons. Unless of course, this decision is based entirely on emotion rather reason.

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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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I didn't say they should be taken away

Was merely asking why they shouldn't and to further probe the biggest defence to that question(freedom)

Try to keep up :cheersyoufuck:

At any rate, I'm off to a thanksgiving dinner :smile:

Will reply later possibly


Shroomslip:  genuinely just curious man.  Trying to get a better understanding of point of views and logic behind it all


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Re: Mass Shooter on the loose in Las Vegas [Re: Masked]
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Masked said:
Wrong.  But continue pontificating :cheers:




bwahahahaha yeah, right, facts are wrong. KK
keep circling the drain and getting nowhere but wrongsville.

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