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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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for no rational reason.

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Enlil]
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You have no clue about what the military is like do you? I get it, it's easy so say things like that without actual knowledge.

Let me enlighten you to what warfare is like and it's tactics

The only thing you are correct on is that we don't run in swarms on beaches, everything else is tosh though. You already know that and im assuming your playing  at being  facetious

Tactics are taught for urban conflicts, the days of conventional warfare have been over for well over a decade in fact since the Falklands.

All your training is now bound around CIED training (counter Improvised Explosive devices) EVERYTHING. You don't even get into theater without being competent in all areas of urban conflict, that includes CQB style fighting, Men are always needed, always have been, and always will be needed to win conflicts. Your modern army and modern warfare comment is laughable at best, sorry.

So explain to me how women fit a modern military and superseded males in any department? Please enlighten me with your experience in the Military. I always love hearing others opinions on something that they have experienced.


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: akira_akuma]
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canst thou readeth?

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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I don't think anyone here said they should be on the front lines.  So, since it appears that your position has changed vis a vis women, what about your position vis a vis trans people?


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
GripOfDeath said:
Being gay was also considered to be mental disorder by science until 30 years ago.



False.



Not False... Homosexuality as a mental disorder was renamed in 1974 as sexual orientation disturbance.  It wasn't until 1987 that it was removed from the DSM.

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Enlil]
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the discourse was heavily laden with the assumption. i'm not sure why you'd have mentioned hand to hand combat otherwise.

but no, my position hasn't changed.

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: WestCoastOG]
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Lol, I clearly hit a nerve.  No one is insulting you, dude.


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said:
canst thou readeth?



can't thou?

i said no rational reason. we've all already established here that your rationale is dim, at best.

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: akira_akuma]
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that seems far from established, i havent seen more than a few pointless sentences out of you this entire thread.

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Enlil]
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I'm not insulted or with a nerve struck.

I'm just curious to where you pull your knowledge from? Not experience I'm assuming?


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: WestCoastOG]
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WestCoastOG said:
You have no clue about what the military is like do you? I get it, it's easy so say things like that without actual knowledge.

Let me enlighten you to what warfare is like and it's tactics

The only thing you are correct on is that we don't run in swarms on beaches, everything else is tosh though. You already know that and im assuming your playing  at being  facetious

Tactics are taught for urban conflicts, the days of conventional warfare have been over for well over a decade in fact since the Falklands.

All your training is now bound around CIED training (counter Improvised Explosive devices) EVERYTHING. You don't even get into theater without being competent in all areas of urban conflict, that includes CQB style fighting, Men are always needed, always have been, and always will be needed to win conflicts. Your modern army and modern warfare comment is laughable at best, sorry.

So explain to me how women fit a modern military and superseded males in any department? Please enlighten me with your experience in the Military. I always love hearing others opinions on something that they have experienced.



WOW, lol....strike a nerve there, chief?

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said:
i'm not sure why you'd have mentioned hand to hand combat otherwise.




For the purpose of illustrating that not all military positions are on the front line.


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: 1234go]
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Anything to contribute?


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin] * 3
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Mad_Larkin said:
male to female transgenders become physically weaker after hormone therapy
female to male transgenders are naturally physically weaker by virtue of being female
gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, statistically transgender people have a higher rate of suicide, depression, etc (even after gender reassignment surgery)



Not much more than most other female soldiers, if their hormones are balanced correctly.


Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder though. Autism is a mental disorder. It makes no difference whether or not someone is born wiith it. And you can have gender dysphoria without being transgender. It annoys me how it's strictly associated with transgender, it's meant to simplify the issue but it honestly only confuses people more. Especially the people who need to understand it the most, the people who are experiencing it.

Gender dysphoria should end after transition for transgender people. If it does not, if the symptoms associated with it do not, then they are not transgender. I understand that it can take some time to figure that out. Hormones are a finicky thing.



I'm fine with saying people can't transition in the military. It creates complications that they aren't likely to deal with appropriately, and it is a liability in combat tours. But, again, saying people can't be transgender is ignorant at best. You can be transgender before transition.
As for the mental issues associated with it, namely depression of varying levels, so what? the military is a stomping ground of mental illness. The very first thing they do when you join is break your mind. Active duty, combat, often destroys it. That's why they break your mind... So you can repress your mental illness long enough to finish your tour and hopefully your time in the military (I believe army has a 4 yr contract.) after that no one gives a shit. PTSD, flashbacks, uncontrollable rage, crippling anxiety and depression... If you're lucky a private organization and not the government (even though they promise to) will help you get the treatment you need.


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: WestCoastOG]
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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said:
that seems far from established, i havent seen more than a few pointless sentences out of you this entire thread.



you're nothing but assumptions and predilections made out of a disdain for reality.

women can serve, hence they should serve. a woman's regiment doesn't sound out of the question, however- although, of course, no one has asserted that women should be on "the front lines" (when has this happened since Vietnam and Korea? proxy wars in middling Mesopotamia have no front lines).

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: GripOfDeath] * 1
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GripOfDeath said:




Othering? :loldongs:

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: WestCoastOG]
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WestCoastOG said:
You have no clue about what the military is like do you? I get it, it's easy so say things like that without actual knowledge.

Let me enlighten you to what warfare is like and it's tactics

The only thing you are correct on is that we don't run in swarms on beaches, everything else is tosh though. You already know that and im assuming your playing  at being  facetious

Tactics are taught for urban conflicts, the days of conventional warfare have been over for well over a decade in fact since the Falklands.

All your training is now bound around CIED training (counter Improvised Explosive devices) EVERYTHING. You don't even get into theater without being competent in all areas of urban conflict, that includes CQB style fighting




all shit any woman can do, trained for conflict.

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: WestCoastOG] * 1
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WestCoastOG said:
I'm not insulted or with a nerve struck.

I'm just curious to where you pull your knowledge from? Not experience I'm assuming?



The military has far more trannies than you realize.  I promise you that every single HMMWV you've ever driven or ridden in had at least one tranny in it.


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Enlil]
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Talking about how women shouldn't serve? Women make up a pretty substantial section of the military... http://www.statisticbrain.com/women-in-the-military-statistics.

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