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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said:
female to male transgenders are naturally physically weaker by virtue of being female



So, you're saying you don't want women in the military either?  Physical strength isn't even that important in the U.S. military anymore.  It's not like we're in hand-hand combat with ISIS.


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said:
female to male transgenders are naturally physically weaker by virtue of being female



Stronger than women who aren't on androgenic steroids though probably. Should they not be allowed either?

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Apollyphelion]
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not really. i have no problem with you being who you are (or feel you are) and I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to make anyone feel TOO uncomfortable, but ignoring facts isn't going to get us anywhere. you seem to be conflating people's reticence to allow transgenders into the military with out and out hatred. that's simply not the case.

the military ought to be an elite fighting force, not an all-inclusive club.

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said:
the military ought to be an elite fighting force, not an all-inclusive club.



It never has been one, though.  It has always been the last resort for a bunch of slackers out of high school.


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Mad_Larkin said:
female to male transgenders are naturally physically weaker by virtue of being female



So, you're saying you don't want women in the military either?




correct

Enlil said:
Physical strength isn't even that important in the U.S. military anymore.  It's not like we're in hand-hand combat with ISIS.



http://www.businessinsider.com/the-crazy-story-of-cpl-wooldridge-2013-12?IR=T
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/10354458/Gurkha-fought-off-Afghan-insurgent-in-hand-to-hand-combat.html
http://taskandpurpose.com/unsung-heroes-soldier-took-house-full-insurgents-m249-knife/
http://taskandpurpose.com/unsung-heroes-green-beret-killed-4-enemy-fighters-one-hands/

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"He didn't say anything other than giving his war cry," explained Gibson. "He had an advantage on me. I didn't have a chance to get my weapon ready and I knew he was gonna shoot me, so I dived on him."

Gibson grabbed the muzzle of the terrorist's rifle as the terrorist began to fire. Gibson wrestled the terrorist to the ground and gained positional control. He struggled and later stripped the terrorist of his weapon.

After stripping the terrorist of the weapon, the terrorist gripped Gibson's rifle. Without the ability to use a firearm, Gibson engaged the enemy with his hands.

"Then he ripped off my helmet and all my (night vision) optics, so I couldn't see all that well," recalled Gibson.

The terrorist then began to reach for something hiding in his clothing.

"I stopped him 'cause I thought maybe he was grabbing a knife to attack me with," said Gibson.

The terrorist was reaching for the detonator to his suicide vest. The terrorist screamed "bomb!" in English.

"I thought at that moment that I was probably going to die," explained Gibson.

As Gibson worked to stop the terrorist from detonating his vest, the terrorist had maneuvered into a position that was cutting off Gibson's circulation.

Gibson, in an effort to save himself, began to hit the terrorist as hard as he could. His blows rendered the terrorist unconscious.

"I got my weapon into his stomach and fired," said Gibson. "And he came back to conscious after that, I knew I got him. I stood up and neutralized him."



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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Enlil]
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They should give all the soldiers a carefully supervised regimen of steroids.

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: psi] * 1
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i think we ought to be clone-farming supersoldiers by now

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said:
Enlil said:
Mad_Larkin said:
female to male transgenders are naturally physically weaker by virtue of being female



So, you're saying you don't want women in the military either?




correct




This kind of thinking is why you guys lost the war with America.


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said:
male to female transgenders become physically weaker after hormone therapy
female to male transgenders are naturally physically weaker by virtue of being female



soldiers are made weaker by virtue of alot of things.

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Mad_Larkin said:
Enlil said:
Mad_Larkin said:
female to male transgenders are naturally physically weaker by virtue of being female



So, you're saying you don't want women in the military either?




correct




This kind of thinking is why you guys lost the war with America.



nope, it was the French

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: psi] * 1
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this is the minimum kit I wore when in Afghan. If i was to be on patrol I'd be carrying on my body this list of items.



Osprey body armour. 8kg
mk7 helmet. 3kg
L85A2. 5.5kg
Goldie. 5kg
Day sack. 10kg
Ammo. 5kg
Med pouches. 2kg

Then my body weight on top which is 75kg, I haven't even met a girl that could drag me let alone carry me with kit on, (*while carrying her own body armour and kit)

So would i want a soldier that is female being beside me that could potentially have to carry me out of danger?

NOPE, would I fuck.

Women are bad for fighting for a few reasons, they affect a male soldiers way of thinking on the battlefield. Males being males and soldiers are no different, will usually always try to protect women, which makes them make terrible decisions, and in war, that can mean death.

They have physical limitations on what they can do. Soldiering is more than just shooting a rifle/weapon.

Now i have seen some amazing women soldiers that are fit and can shoot, they just lack the ability to carry heavy weight like a man does, call it sexist, i call it realism and first hand experience.

I've yet to meet a female that would be able to carry me with most my kit attached to get me out of danger.

As for soldiers being the dregs of society, they do a job your soft  mind and body couldn't do. I'd respect someone like that more than some punk on the internet that would shite his pants at the first sign of danger. So dregs of society? Not in my eyes.

Hope everyones day is going swell.


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Edited by WestCoastOG (07/31/17 09:49 AM)

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: WestCoastOG]
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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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There are also already over 10,000 transgender troops currently serving in the military. It is super messed up that our government said oh you can be transgender and be in the military which caused people to feel safe coming out while serving. Only to have it redacted and leaving many people wondering if they are going to be discharged.

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: WestCoastOG]
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It sounds like you haven't thought it through very well.  Foot soldiers are just one part of the military.  I don't disagree that men make far better meatshields.  Women, however, are superior to men in ways that fit in better with today's military and the military of the future.  The days of storming the beach with a thousand expendable men are largely over.


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Women, however, are superior to men in ways that fit in better with today's military and the military of the future.



do tell

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said:
i think we ought to be clone-farming supersoldiers by now



They could even do it pretty low tech. Have an elite selection of super soldiers on continuous sperm donation duty, and mass distribute it to millions of women.

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Women have larger frontal lobes which gives them superior decision-making and problem-solving skills.


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Enlil]
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If trans people can't serve should that go to the rest of lgbt community? I mean gay people have higher rates of suicide. Being gay was also considered to be mental disorder by science until 30 years ago.

Edited by GripOfDeath (07/31/17 09:54 AM)

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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: GripOfDeath]
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GripOfDeath said:
Being gay was also considered to be mental disorder by science until 30 years ago.



False.


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Re: Transgender Navy Seal to Trump meet me face to face [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Women have larger frontal lobes which gives them superior decision-making and problem-solving skills.



this is apparently true, i have no problem with women in support or command roles. i just don't think they should be on the front lines.

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