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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
The point I made is that you cry about identity politics and then dive straight into them.

Even in a prompt by me to get you to acknowledge this, you use it as a springboard for discussing immigration statistics.


"you cry about identity politics and then dive straight into them"

I posted a video which addressed the "new" Democratic platform and the hypocrisy associated with it, that's hardly diving straight into identity politics.

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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
What you're describing is essentially Trump being elected.


:elderno:

no.
what he's describing is what might have happened if Bernie had been elected.

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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Webster10 said:
What you're describing is essentially Trump being elected.


:elderno:

no.
what he's describing is what might have happened if Bernie had been elected.


No..... just no.....


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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
The point I made is that you cry about identity politics and then dive straight into them.

Even in a prompt by me to get you to acknowledge this, you use it as a springboard for discussing immigration statistics.


"you cry about identity politics and then dive straight into them"

I posted a video which addressed the "new" Democratic platform and the hypocrisy associated with it, that's hardly diving straight into identity politics.


You first complained about dems playing into identity politics too much (which i completely agree with you on), but then you brought up illegal immigration (a dog whistle for racism) in a thread irrelevant to that topic.

But okay.


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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: Webster10] * 2
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Webster10 said:
The Ecstatic said:
Webster10 said:
I'm sorry but there are still idiots who think bernie would've been a good leader. And my democrat friends think the golden showers pee pee tape piss story is real.

NO. Democrats have NOT seen the light.


Implying that the DNC thinks bernie wouldve been a good leader? I just want one coherent point from you by day's end.

You got this. :thumbup:


:lolwut:

My point was perfectly coherent and you responded with some random bullshit :shrug:


You claim that a contributing factor to the Dems not seeing the light yet is that some of them still think bernie wouldve been a good leader.

Except we live in reality so we know that the DNC intentionally sabotaged his campaign to prop up Clinton. So what point are you making exactly?

That Bernie supporters are somehow responsible for the actions of the party that screwed them, their candidate, and the nation over? What an ignorant claim.


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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
keyser_soze said:
They don't see the light at all. This is them ramping down the fake russian scandal via misdirection. They won't come out and say they were lying so they put this out there.


I agree with you, except I think that it does show that democrats might finally see the light.  I was disappointed in them, but this gives me a ray of hope.



I think it shows SOME democrats are finally coming out of their stupendous stupor. I think it will be more interesting to see if the majority of democrats double down and turn on the ones who could actually bring them back to the fold.

It's a popular narrative but the democrats lost touch with their base voters. They catered and pandered to SJWs, BLM, feminists, poor people, and fat people. It's not a problem their willing to openly admit because it tells everyone "hey we're not listening to you."  I personally enjoy Milo's take on this particular subject because I think it's the #2 reason why they lost, Hillary Clinton as their nominee is #1.


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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: LRG]
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The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
The point I made is that you cry about identity politics and then dive straight into them.

Even in a prompt by me to get you to acknowledge this, you use it as a springboard for discussing immigration statistics.


"you cry about identity politics and then dive straight into them"

I posted a video which addressed the "new" Democratic platform and the hypocrisy associated with it, that's hardly diving straight into identity politics.


You first complained about dems playing into identity politics too much (which i completely agree with you on), but then you brought up illegal immigration (a dog whistle for racism) in a thread irrelevant to that topic.

But okay.


"then you brought up illegal immigration"

No, the video I posted addressed it.

"(a dog whistle for racism)"

Having an issue with ILLEGAL immigration isn't racist, this is why Trump got elected, when are you going to learn that type of rhetoric just doesn't cut it anymore?

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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: qman]
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qman said:
This is why that don't see the light, they want more jobs, higher wages and health care for the middle class. The problem is they also want the US to have open borders for illegals...


Just curious - who said they want open borders for illegals?


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: qman]
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
The point I made is that you cry about identity politics and then dive straight into them.

Even in a prompt by me to get you to acknowledge this, you use it as a springboard for discussing immigration statistics.


"you cry about identity politics and then dive straight into them"

I posted a video which addressed the "new" Democratic platform and the hypocrisy associated with it, that's hardly diving straight into identity politics.


You first complained about dems playing into identity politics too much (which i completely agree with you on), but then you brought up illegal immigration (a dog whistle for racism) in a thread irrelevant to that topic.

But okay.


"then you brought up illegal immigration"

No, the video I posted addressed it.

"(a dog whistle for racism)"

Having an issue with ILLEGAL immigration isn't racist, this is why Trump got elected, when are you going to learn that type of rhetoric just doesn't cut it anymore?


I didnt say having an issue with illegal immigration is racist, i said its a dog whistle for racism. Certainly you wouldnt dispite that...


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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
This is why that don't see the light, they want more jobs, higher wages and health care for the middle class. The problem is they also want the US to have open borders for illegals...


Just curious - who said they want open borders for illegals?


No one is stupid enough to say it, but when you opposed people that support border enforcement, deportation and immigration laws, I think we all know where they're coming from on the issue.

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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: qman] * 1
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The nazis supported border enforcement, am i advocating open borders for criticizing them?

You have the capacity for a lot of allusions and hidden motives when it comes to one side, but not the other, I wonder why that is.


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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: qman]
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the illegals that everyone thinks of when someone says "illegals" would have less reason to come to your home town if they were in the U.S. already.  Like those advertisements by the side of the freeway that say "If you lived here, you would be home by now!".
2017 Bring our troops home...to Mexico, the 51st-60th states.

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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: ballsalsa]
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Advocating compassion, yeah...thought ought to pacify the rabid white nationalists patrolling the borders in their imported pickup trucks and army surplus store outfits.


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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
The nazis supported border enforcement, am i advocating open borders for criticizing them?


That statement doesn't even make sense, many Democrats oppose anyone that supports border enforcement, deportation and immigration laws.

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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
the illegals that everyone thinks of when someone says "illegals" would have less reason to come to your home town if they were in the U.S. already.  Like those advertisements by the side of the freeway that say "If you lived here, you would be home by now!".
2017 Bring our troops home...to Mexico, the 51st-60th states.


"less reason to come to your home town if they were in the U.S. already"

What does that have to do with anything?  :lol:

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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: qman]
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What?  If mexicans were citizens, they couldn't be illegal immigrants, or immigrants of any kind, now could they?

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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: qman]
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
The nazis supported border enforcement, am i advocating open borders for criticizing them?


That statement doesn't even make sense, many Democrats oppose anyone that supports border enforcement, deportation and immigration laws.


Yeah, neither does saying "i think we all really know what the people who protest ICE really think."


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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
...many Democrats oppose anyone that supports border enforcement, deportation and immigration laws.


It's an important issue for pro-Trump voters, but most democrats couldn't give a shit about border enforcement.  They voted against Trump for many other reasons.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
...many Democrats oppose anyone that supports border enforcement, deportation and immigration laws.


It's an important issue for pro-Trump voters, but most democrats couldn't give a shit about border enforcement.  They voted against Trump for many other reasons.


"but most democrats couldn't give a shit about border enforcement"

Exactly, thanks for being honest.

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Re: Did the Democrats finally see the light? [Re: qman] * 1
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So are we indifferent to the border or are we advocating open borders?

Thanks in advance for being honest.


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