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Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? * 3
    #23828505 - 11/13/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm a white man, and when I was growing up, people made fun of me occasionally for having facial tics, for being smart/good at school, and nobody made fun of me in high school, but I was an outcast for not being like everybody else and it certainly wasn't a "loving" environment.  I wasn't bullied heavily in the traditional sense, but even outside my own experiences of being made fun of, I observed people being dicks to each other all the time, seemingly for sport.  It wasn't just my personal experiences that formed this opinion, but also observations on how other people acted among themselves.


Fast-forward to today, and it seems like everyone in the millennial generation that I grew up with now preaches about "love", "tolerance", "working together", etc., and all this other cliche, meaningless rhetoric when it comes to race and/or their political views.  Growing up though, these were the same people that were constantly being assholes to one another and myself.


Even when I was in college, I noticed that some of the most obviously radical students seemed to be snobby, and would judge others negatively based on the clothes they wore, how cool they were, their style, etc.  Sometimes I would witness them express contempt for someone else just because that person had an eccentric quirk that they couldn't understand.


We live in a society filled with generic forms of hate, but when that hate is racist, sexist, or homo/trans-phobic in nature (and it doesn't even have to be hate;  I think milder forms of racism can be free of hate), all of a sudden, lemming-minded people gather together and denounce hate, as if they were about "love" and "tolerance" the whole time.


This observation makes me view the new-age, millennial progressive culture (whatever the hell you want to call it, I don't care) as being fake, their convictions insincere, and their movement nothing more than a dog-and-pony show.


If you're truly about love and tolerance, you should love everyone and hate nobody for any reason - rather than rejecting hate in a tiny subset of contexts while freely expressing it in other contexts.


I'm not against the idea of a more loving society, but if you're going to preach love and tolerance while condemning hate, you should condemn hate universally.  I think a lot of (not all) the people who are the most vocal in opposing racism/sexism, etc., just want to virtue-signal, and might not even be intelligent enough to realize their own hypocrisy or true motives behind what they profess.


I'm also not a right-winger by contrast, and I applaud anybody who actually does show love to everybody, and condemns hate for ALL reasons.


It's not OK to chastise others for hating somebody based on race or sexual orientation, then go outside and ridicule someone else for being fat, ugly, nerdy, weird, or less social or heavily acquainted with pop culture than you think they should be, or having different political or social views than you.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23828521 - 11/13/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

People do a lot of stupid mistakes for love as well.

It seems to me that all extreme emotion can have extremely nasty effects.

People tend to love or hate what they don't see inside of themselves.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: Celestial Traveler] * 1
    #23828527 - 11/13/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why is racism worse than other forms of hate?




it's not.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: Celestial Traveler] * 3
    #23828530 - 11/13/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, SJW's are the most hateful and intolerant people around, hypocrisy at it's finest.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: qman]
    #23828543 - 11/13/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

racism is the worst form of hate because it is based on notions of one's own projection of their idiocy and impotence in their bigotry over having their lots be comparable to those they see as "outsiders".

that's why. because it's borne out of people's outright idiocy and impotence.

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Why is racism worse than other forms of hate?




it's not.



you can term it more 'the most idiotic form of hate'.

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Yeah, SJW's are the most hateful and intolerant people around, hypocrisy at it's finest.



true. SJWs are almost like the new big idiotic thing that makes no sense but for people's impotence, and ignorance.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: Celestial Traveler] * 1
    #23828549 - 11/13/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Racism isnt worse than other forms of bigotry but kits so fucking unjust and avoidable to just not hate on someone over their race.

Its retarded.

Anti white racism too,. I call that shit out just as hard on more diverse websites.

Stahp hating on each other.

LOVE.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #23828562 - 11/13/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Anti white racism too,. I call that shit out just as hard on more diverse websites.







lol.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: Asante]
    #23828576 - 11/13/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

But who occasionally isn't rude to strangers, perhaps when they're having a bad day?  Or notices someone who they think is weird as they pass on the sidewalk, and judges that person negatively?  I'm sure everybody does it...so why is that not as bad as racism?  Why do ordinary people who do these things like to pretend that they are all about "love" and "tolerance" just because they condemn racism?


It turns out that people are just more conscious about racism because there's a widespread ideology aimed specifically at raising consciousness towards it.  But being conscious about one form of hate does not make you qualified to preach to others about "love" when you yourself play host to several different manifestations of hate.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: qman] * 1
    #23828593 - 11/13/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

OP, very well said.  When I was in college I had a group of friends who loved to call me a racist because I was born (not currently living in, but BORN) in the south.  I had about 70%/25%/5% white/black/other friends whereas all of their friends were white (not that it matters, but just for the sake of argument).  These same people also loved to call me stupid and ignorant because I had only travelled to one other country, whereas they had travelled to many.  The reason they travelled to so many countries is that their parents were wealthy and paid for it.  On top of this, they spent every spare moment of their time watching Lost and the Sopranos, while I read about quantum physics and studied music theory.  The point of this unnecesarrily long rant is that hypocrisy is as much a form of hatred as anything, yet one of the trademarks of hypocrisy is the inability to recognize hypocrisy.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: OakTree]
    #23828599 - 11/13/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

he didn't make a good "argument", he made a statement.

Racism is SJW-ism sans the progressivism.

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But who occasionally isn't rude to strangers, perhaps when they're having a bad day?  Or notices someone who they think is weird as they pass on the sidewalk, and judges that person negatively?  I'm sure everybody does it...so why is that not as bad as racism?  Why do ordinary people who do these things like to pretend that they are all about "love" and "tolerance" just because they condemn racism?


It turns out that people are just more conscious about racism because there's a widespread ideology aimed specifically at raising consciousness towards it.  But being conscious about one form of hate does not make you qualified to preach to others about "love" when you yourself play host to several different manifestations of hate.




all hate is based on ignorance.

therefore, all hate is bad.

but is it necessary. yes.

but only as a dichotomous outlay over/under what is good, to give contrast.

it's something necessarily to avoid partake in unnecessarily.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: OakTree]
    #23828603 - 11/13/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

*nothing against Lost or the Sopranos by the way; I was just pointing out that they loved to call me stupid while I was holed up in my room studying quantum physics and music theory.  It was weird to me haha.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: OakTree]
    #23828613 - 11/13/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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OP, very well said.  When I was in college I had a group of friends who loved to call me a racist because I was born (not currently living in, but BORN) in the south.  I had about 70%/25%/5% white/black/other friends whereas all of their friends were white (not that it matters, but just for the sake of argument).  These same people also loved to call me stupid and ignorant because I had only travelled to one other country, whereas they had travelled to many.  The reason they travelled to so many countries is that their parents were wealthy and paid for it.  On top of this, they spent every spare moment of their time watching Lost and the Sopranos, while I read about quantum physics and studied music theory.  The point of this unnecesarrily long rant is that hypocrisy is as much a form of hatred as anything, yet one of the trademarks of hypocrisy is the inability to recognize hypocrisy.




Very well said.  :thumbup:

I think a lot of these people are just trying to fit into some cultural cliche, which in my opinion displays a strong lack of real enlightenment, intelligence or wisdom.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
    #23828615 - 11/13/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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he didn't make a good "argument", he made a statement.

Racism is SJW-ism sans the progressivism.

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But who occasionally isn't rude to strangers, perhaps when they're having a bad day?  Or notices someone who they think is weird as they pass on the sidewalk, and judges that person negatively?  I'm sure everybody does it...so why is that not as bad as racism?  Why do ordinary people who do these things like to pretend that they are all about "love" and "tolerance" just because they condemn racism?


It turns out that people are just more conscious about racism because there's a widespread ideology aimed specifically at raising consciousness towards it.  But being conscious about one form of hate does not make you qualified to preach to others about "love" when you yourself play host to several different manifestations of hate.




all hate is based on ignorance.

therefore, all hate is bad.





Hate is a survival mechanism, I hate people trying to kill me, steal my resources and cause me harm, that's not "based on ignorance", that's a very rational and logical position to hold.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23828651 - 11/13/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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all hate is based on ignorance.





bullshit

often times hate is based on knowledge, this liberal horse shit doesnt hold water
with anyone but the retards that espouse ignorance as the only cause of hate


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23828660 - 11/13/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Because liberals said so, that's why!:psycrankey:


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23828669 - 11/13/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Because liberals said so, that's why!:psycrankey:





I guess that's why they're so full of hate for anything they dont understand
or agree with, because they're ignorant


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #23828736 - 11/13/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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but kits so fucking unjust and avoidable to just not hate on someone over their race.




Bullshit.  That's not true all the time.  IMagine you live in a country where your city is bombed, raided, and raped/pillaged by a neighboring country.  Imagine losing friends and family in such an event.  Now tell me you wouldn't have deep hatred for that race of people who came over and destroyed your life over something that never involved you personally.
I'm sure there are plenty of Lebanese people who, for example, have an extreme hatred for Israeli Jews and can you really blame them?


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: abltsandwich] * 1
    #23828837 - 11/13/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think the virtue signalling might stem from attempting to hide the shadow-self from their own consciousness and/or from other conscious beings. 

Sort of like over-compensating for ones own darkness with ones desire to be a good person.  By so vocally showing others how good of a person you are, you are attempting to minimize the appearance of your bad side and it convinces yourself that the bad traits aren't part of you or don't have power over you since you work so hard at being a good person.


All hate is shitty, and racism is especially shitty.  It's also shitty when intellectual discourse is derailed by emotionally manipulative claims of racism where there are none.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23828867 - 11/13/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think it starts off as simple foolishness but can get out of hand when it becomes part of who you are.

It's almost like a secondhand way to connect with the I and I vibration... it's not I and I for these guys... it's I against I and not in any nice way... so yeah, I feel like racist people at this point don't know any other way.

Like yo it's okay to notice racial differences, you don't have to be politically correct. I do believe in 'different races' I'm not an 'I don't see race' person. But I can say that I have zero issue with other ethnicities, one love baby. And I'm fine to let them immigrate to America I don't mind the fucking traffic lol.


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Re: Why is racism worse than other forms of hate? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23828953 - 11/13/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why is racism worse than other forms of hate?



It isn't. There also is nothing innately bad about hate. Its an emotional mechanism which allows us to better destroy our enemies and protect our own.


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