hostileuniverse said:

Palestinian hate groups have started adding "Jewish" to their name to get credibility

https://www.algemeiner.com/2016/05/16/a-jewish-voice-for-peace-no-just-another-hate-group/

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I dont expect you, of all people, to detect the spin in the article you posted.

Your source is more of an opinion piece with no evidence that this group is not a Jewish organisation.

The zionist spin says its not jewish if its pro-BDS so they are self-hating Jews I guess?

oh and surprise that the zionist ADL doesn't like them!

so much bullshit in your source

anti-zionist does not mean anti-semitic. Israel is not the global representative of world jewry. The Israeli govt should not get a carte blanche by anyone to commit atrocities and then brand American Jews as a hate group for wanting justice and accountability in response to atrocities and breaches of the law..

THe "Jewish State" is a racist entity by definition. No one is calling for a Jewish exodus from Israel/Palestine. We are calling for a right of return of refugees who were expelled, and the respect for international law. Yes that means Israel loses the demographic war which they fight so relentlessly now. Just as white south africans stayed after the fall of apartheid, the same will be true in Israel/Palestine. It shows that Israel doesn't want coexistance, they want domination and privelege.

I dont expect you to understand....

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JVP opposes the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.[7] It has published articles criticizing what it describes as the "severe human-rights violations that Israel engages in every day,"[8] such as the construction of the Israeli West Bank barrier, the blockade of the Gaza Strip, and military operations in Gaza and the West Bank.[citation needed] It "endorses neither a one-state solution to resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, nor a two-state solution."[9]

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The Anti-Defamation League has drawn both criticism and controversy over its priorities. Noam Chomsky accuses them of "having lost entirely its focus on civil rights issues in order to become solely an advocate for Israeli policy". Journalist Mark Arax has criticized the organization's failure to recognize the Armenian Genocide.[5] The Washington Post has noted that the ADL has repeatedly accused Israeli policy critic Norman Finkelstein of being a "Holocaust denier" and that "these charges have proved baseless."[6]

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hostileuniverse said:

Palestinian hate groups have started adding "Jewish" to their name to get credibility

https://www.algemeiner.com/2016/05/16/a-jewish-voice-for-peace-no-just-another-hate-group/

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Journalist Mark Arax has criticized the organization's failure to recognize the Armenian Genocide.

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THE BRITISH AMBASSADOR TO THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE SIR GERALD LOWTHER’S LETTER TO SIR CHARLES HARDING, May 29, 1910
— “Shortly after the revolution in July 1908, it soon became known that many of the Young Turks’ leading members were Freemasons. It was noticed that Jews of all colours, native and foreign, were enthusiastic supporters of the new dispensation, till, as many Turks expressed it, every Hebrew became a potential spy of the Young Turks. Turks began to remark that the movement was rather a Jewish than a Turkish Revolution.” —
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=77

sprinkles said:

Well the bible states that in the end times Russia will grow strong. Then they will join forces with China.  It also names North Korea and Iran, but anyway Russia and China will march across the Euphrates river (where Isis headquarters happens to be) to destroy 1/3 of mankind. Fire, smoke, brimstone, that is nuclear war.  They want to take back Jerusalem.  Thousands of missles are aimed at Israel right this moment. Plus too they all HATE the USA.  Babylon will fall.  It's said that Turkey has a series of dams in place to stop flow of the Euphrates. 

i think the US will be attacked with one or many nuclear weapons, that will leave Israel open for attack.  Then WW3 starts & Armageddon begins.

"destruction will be by both massive nuclear blasts and earthquakes. Dr. Einstein clearly proved that a small nuclear blast on the right place on an earthquake fault would produce earthquakes of such magnitude as to displace entire continents. America would be doubly-destroyed, just as God foretold. Our destruction will be by both massive nuclear blasts and earthquakes." 

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sprinkles said:

but God will give Israel an everlasting name. They are his CHOSEN people.

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sprinkles said:

Tipote said:

sprinkles said:

Well the bible states that in the end times Russia will grow strong. Then they will join forces with China.  It also names North Korea and Iran, but anyway Russia and China will march across the Euphrates river (where Isis headquarters happens to be) to destroy 1/3 of mankind. Fire, smoke, brimstone, that is nuclear war.  They want to take back Jerusalem.  Thousands of missles are aimed at Israel right this moment. Plus too they all HATE the USA.  Babylon will fall.  It's said that Turkey has a series of dams in place to stop flow of the Euphrates. 

i think the US will be attacked with one or many nuclear weapons, that will leave Israel open for attack.  Then WW3 starts & Armageddon begins.

"destruction will be by both massive nuclear blasts and earthquakes. Dr. Einstein clearly proved that a small nuclear blast on the right place on an earthquake fault would produce earthquakes of such magnitude as to displace entire continents. America would be doubly-destroyed, just as God foretold. Our destruction will be by both massive nuclear blasts and earthquakes." 

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the bible states nothing of the sort.

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have you even read the bible?  honestly

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Have you?  Please tell us ignorant folk where we can find what you posted above in the bible. 

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Dear brothers and sisters, the longing of my heart and my prayer to God is for the people of Israel to be saved. I know what enthusiasm they have for God, but it is misdirected zeal. For they don’t understand God’s way of making people right with himself. Refusing to accept God’s way, they cling to their own way of getting right with God by trying to keep the law. For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given.

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But I ask, did the people of Israel really understand? Yes, they did, for even in the time of Moses, God said,
“I will rouse your jealousy through people who are not even a nation.
I will provoke your anger through the foolish Gentiles.”

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But regarding Israel, God said,
“All day long I opened my arms to them,
but they were disobedient and rebellious."

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1I ask, then, has God rejected his own people, the nation of Israel? Of course not! I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham and a member of the tribe of Benjamin.

2No, God has not rejected his own people, whom he chose from the very beginning. Do you realize what the Scriptures say about this? Elijah the prophet complained to God about the people of Israel and said, 3“LORD, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars. I am the only one left, and now they are trying to kill me, too.”

4And do you remember God’s reply? He said, “No, I have 7,000 others who have never bowed down to Baal!”

5It is the same today, for a few of the people of Israel have remained faithful because of God’s grace—his undeserved kindness in choosing them. 6And since it is through God’s kindness, then it is not by their good works. For in that case, God’s grace would not be what it really is—free and undeserved.

7So this is the situation: Most of the people of Israel have not found the favor of God they are looking for so earnestly. A few have—the ones God has chosen—but the hearts of the rest were hardened. 8As the Scriptures say,

“God has put them into a deep sleep.
To this day he has shut their eyes so they do not see,
and closed their ears so they do not hear.”
9Likewise, David said,
“Let their bountiful table become a snare,
a trap that makes them think all is well.
Let their blessings cause them to stumble,
and let them get what they deserve.
10Let their eyes go blind so they cannot see,
and let their backs be bent forever.”
11Did God’s people stumble and fall beyond recovery? Of course not! They were disobedient, so God made salvation available to the Gentiles. But he wanted his own people to become jealous and claim it for themselves. 12Now if the Gentiles were enriched because the people of Israel turned down God’s offer of salvation, think how much greater a blessing the world will share when they finally accept it.

13I am saying all this especially for you Gentiles. God has appointed me as the apostle to the Gentiles. I stress this, 14for I want somehow to make the people of Israel jealous of what you Gentiles have, so I might save some of them. 15For since their rejection meant that God offered salvation to the rest of the world, their acceptance will be even more wonderful. It will be life for those who were dead! 16And since Abraham and the other patriarchs were holy, their descendants will also be holy—just as the entire batch of dough is holy because the portion given as an offering is holy. For if the roots of the tree are holy, the branches will be, too.

17But some of these branches from Abraham’s tree—some of the people of Israel—have been broken off. And you Gentiles, who were branches from a wild olive tree, have been grafted in. So now you also receive the blessing God has promised Abraham and his children, sharing in the rich nourishment from the root of God’s special olive tree. 18But you must not brag about being grafted in to replace the branches that were broken off. You are just a branch, not the root.

19“Well,” you may say, “those branches were broken off to make room for me.” 20Yes, but remember—those branches were broken off because they didn’t believe in Christ, and you are there because you do believe. So don’t think highly of yourself, but fear what could happen. 21For if God did not spare the original branches, he won’tf spare you either.

22Notice how God is both kind and severe. He is severe toward those who disobeyed, but kind to you if you continue to trust in his kindness. But if you stop trusting, you also will be cut off. 23And if the people of Israel turn from their unbelief, they will be grafted in again, for God has the power to graft them back into the tree. 24You, by nature, were a branch cut from a wild olive tree. So if God was willing to do something contrary to nature by grafting you into his cultivated tree, he will be far more eager to graft the original branches back into the tree where they belong.

God’s Mercy Is for Everyone

25I want you to understand this mystery, dear brothers and sisters, so that you will not feel proud about yourselves. Some of the people of Israel have hard hearts, but this will last only until the full number of Gentiles comes to Christ. 26And so all Israel will be saved. As the Scriptures say,
“The one who rescues will come from Jerusalem,
and he will turn Israeli away from ungodliness.
27And this is my covenant with them,
that I will take away their sins.”
28Many of the people of Israel are now enemies of the Good News, and this benefits you Gentiles. Yet they are still the people he loves because he chose their ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. 29For God’s gifts and his call can never be withdrawn. 30Once, you Gentiles were rebels against God, but when the people of Israel rebelled against him, God was merciful to you instead. 31Now they are the rebels, and God’s mercy has come to you so that they, too, will share in God’s mercy. 32For God has imprisoned everyone in disobedience so he could have mercy on everyone.

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In Summary:

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It is true that the Jews, God’s chosen people, are still waiting for their Messiah. However, not recognizing their own Messiah is part of God’s plan (Romans 11:25-27) that allows everyone else be saved (Joel 2:32; Romans 10:13). The Bible clearly states that those who are first will be last (Matthew 19:30 and 20:16, Mark 10:31, and Luke 13:30). The Jews were the first of God’s people, but they are kept unaware of their own Messiah until everyone on the earth hears about Yeshua Messiah. This is good news, since everyone gets a chance to accept the Messiah as their Savior and go to heaven. Once that happens, the remaining followers of Judaism will realize that Yeshua was the Messiah.

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sprinkles said:

It's coming.  He's coming.

Natural disasters are starting to rage...  we havent had a storm this bad in like 50-100 years.

I dont know what more has to happen before people get a fucking clue.  God is angry, people should fear whats coming but they are oblivious.

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sprinkles said:

the biggest problem in my life right now is I cant shut this God damn curtain.  It is a hunter douglas powerview curtain, there is no way I can shut the bitch.  the stupid generator isnt aware I need tricities to that outlet. 


ugh I should have known better.  Damn you curtain  damn you to hell.

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The thousands of Palestinian and Israeli women who marched in Jerusalem and Jericho this month are not only demanding peace from their societies, they are reaching through stereotypes and artificial boundaries to find true partners.

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Since B’Tselem director Hagai El-Ad spoke at the UN Security Council a week ago calling for an end to Israel’s half-century old occupation, the organization has been subject to vicious attacks and delegitimization, including by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. El-Ad’s very citizenship has been threatened by a senior member of Netanyahu’s Likud party, and thousands of Israelis have incited against him, including death threats. None of this incitement has been condemned by anyone in Israel’s ruling coalition.

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When friendship for Israel is judged solely on the basis of support for the occupation, Israel has no friends other than racists and nationalists.

All of a sudden it’s not so terrible to be anti-Semitic. Suddenly it’s excusable as long as you hate Muslims and Arabs and “love Israel.” The Jewish and Israeli right has issued a sweeping amnesty to anti-Semitic lovers of Israel – yes, there is such a thing, and they’re en route to taking power in the United States.

So now we know: Not just pornography but also anti-Semitism is a matter of geography and price. Right-wing American anti-Semites are no longer considered anti-Semites.

The definition has been updated: From now on, anti-Semites are only found on the left. Roger Waters, a courageous man of conscience without stain, is an anti-Semite. Steve Bannon, a declared racist and closet anti-Semite who has been appointed chief strategist in the Trump White House, is a friend of Israel.

Jewish and Israeli activists who left no stone unturned in their effort to discover signs of anti-Semitism, who viewed every parking ticket for an American Jew as an act of hate, who moved heaven and earth every time a Jew was robbed or a Jewish gravestone was cracked, are now whitewashing an anti-Semite. Suddenly they’re not convinced we’re talking about that particular disease.

Alan Dershowitz, one of the biggest propagandists in this field, has already come out in defense of the racist Bannon. In a Haaretz piece late last week, Dershowitz wrote that the man whose wife said he didn’t want their children to go to school with Jews isn’t anti-Semitic. “The claim was simply made by his former wife in a judicial proceeding, thus giving it no special weight,” Dershowitz wrote, with specious logic.

After all, Dershowitz’s former research assistant, an Orthodox Jew who later worked with Bannon, assured him that he had seen no signs of anti-Semitism in Bannon. And suddenly that’s enough for Dershowitz. Suddenly it’s possible to separate racism from anti-Semitism.

Israel’s ambassador in Washington, Ron Dermer, naturally hastened to join the party. Over the weekend, he said he expects to work with Bannon. And boy, does he expect to work with that racist. After all, they’ll agree about everything: that there’s no Palestinian people, that there’s no occupation, that the settlement of Yitzhar should remain forever, that leftists are traitors.

For Dermer – ambassador of the illegal outpost of Amona, friend of the Tea Party and boycotter of J Street; a man who if the bilateral relationship had been normal would have been declared persona non grata by the United States – the new appointments are like the dawn of a new day.

He’ll feel so at home with Frank Gaffney, another hater of Muslims who’s likely to receive a senior appointment in the new administration; he’ll be so happy working with Bannon. And Mike Huckabee is exactly his cup of tea. Dermer, after all, was given the Freedom Flame Award by the Center for Security Policy, a hate group that proudly flies the flag of Islamophobia.

These racists and their ilk are Israel’s best friends in the United States. They’re joined by the racists of the European right. If you discount the guilt feelings over the Holocaust, they’re the only friends Israel has left. When friendship for Israel is judged solely on the basis of support for the occupation, Israel has no friends other than racists and nationalists. That ought to have aroused great shame here: Tell us who your friends are and we’ll tell you who you are.

These racists love Israel because it’s carrying out their dreams: to oppress Arabs, to abuse Muslims, to dispossess them, expel them, kill them, demolish their houses, trample their honor. This bunch of trash would so dearly love to behave as we do.

But for now this is only possible in Israel, so it’s the light unto the nations in this field. What happened to the days when Jews in South Africa went to prison with Nelson Mandela? Nowadays Jewish activists in America support the new rulers – the racists and anti-Semites.

The Palestinian-American author Susan Abulhawa wrote on Facebook over the weekend: Palestinians are calling white nationalist Bannon an anti-Semite, while AIPAC and Dershowitz think he’s not such a bad guy. What more proof do you need that Zionism is a face of white supremacy, and ultimately antithetical to Judaism?

Last summer, Abulhawa was deported via the Allenby Bridge. And she’s right. The United States and Israel now share the same values – and woe to that sense of shame.

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