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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: koods] * 1
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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: ballsalsa]
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So we could potentially have a president in office that is personally in debt to the Chinese?


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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: FruitOfLife]
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FruitOfLife said:
So we could potentially have a president in office that is personally in debt to the Chinese?




Don't worry.  They will forgive his debt when he allows them to control the South China Sea.


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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: Morel Guy]
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she was senator from 2000-2006 when the min wage was 7.15
min wage now
9.50$

3br apartment in the ghetto  2200$

obama thankfully made it so abandoned houses could be auctioned :rolleyes:

Edited by Konyap (10/02/16 01:14 PM)

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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: Konyap]
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Rent gas almost doubled in my area since Obama was elected.  There is a major lacking of cheap affordable rent.  If you can manage a down payment and get a mortgage, buying is cheaper.  I don't know how people afford housing for the most part.


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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
  If you can manage a down payment and get a mortgage, buying is cheaper. 



this has more or less always been the case.
Everything is cheaper if you have money.  The poor have to pay a premium price for housing etc. as penance for not being as fit for survival under social darwinism.  The rich get hefty discounts as reward for having accumulated wealth by whatever means.

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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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Its expensive to be poor:
“The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.” -Pratchet, Men at Arms


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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: ballsalsa]
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Most people are poor.  The middle class only got out of poverty by having credit.  Still paying more for their house or car and education than the sticker price.  Barely affording retirement.  Probably leaving debt to their estate.  Dreaming of vacations they really do not enrich anybody by taking.


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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: Crumist]
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Boots I can afford.  A car and a house and a gold claim are a bit less affordable.  Living paycheck to paycheck you get desperate much quicker.  No security.


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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: Morel Guy]
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all i know is that my mom pays close to the same as me for her housing.  She owns a 5 bedroom house in a fancy neighborhood, and i live in a one bedroom apartment in a run-down part of The Valley.

The difference? Money for a down payment.

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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: ballsalsa]
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Pay cash and only have repairs, taxes, insurence, and utilities.


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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: ballsalsa]
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http://evonomics.com/joseph-stiglitz-inequality-unearned-income/

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Rent-seeking and top incomes

The term ‘rent’ was originally used to describe the returns to land, since the owner of the land receives these payments by virtue of his or his ownership and not because of anything he or she does. The term was then extended to include monopoly profits (or monopoly rents)— the income that one receives simply from control of a monopoly— and in general returns due to similar ownership claims. Thus, rent-seeking means getting an income not as a reward for creating wealth but by grabbing a larger share of the wealth that would have been produced anyway



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With more wealth put into these assets, there may be less invested in real productive capital. In the case of many countries where we have data (such as France) there is evidence that this is indeed the case: a disproportionate part of savings in recent years has gone into the purchase of housing, which has not increased the productivity of the ‘real’ economy.



Edited by Konyap (10/02/16 01:50 PM)

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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
Pay cash and only have repairs, taxes, insurence, and utilities.



repairs only cost me the price of materials and my time.
renters pay their landlord's property taxes
renters pay their landlord's property insurance costs
renters pay for their utilities

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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
So I checked her voting record as Senator and her First Lady projects and her Secretary of state stints and I've been asking myself the following questions:

- Can I name one major thing that has happened because of Hillary (ex: obama has Obamacare). What can I staple as Hillary-_____?




you could try Hillary-Gate, staple that to her along with some VOTE TRUMP 2016 handbills

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- Can I name one thing she prevented from happening that would have been bad? A tie breaker or something.



well let's see:

she didnt prevent bill from dipping his willy
she didnt prevent the deaths of 4 US citizens in Benghazi
she didnt prevent the arrest of another citizen that resulted from her lies
she didnt prevent an email scandal from surfacing
she didnt prevent another email scandal from surfacing
she didnt prevent the pay for play scandal from surfacing
she didnt prevent a war in syria
she didnt prevent a war in libya
she didnt prevent a forest fire


she did prevent Bernie Sanders from becoming the presidential nominee because her ego needed feeding

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- Had Hillary never held held office of any kind, what would have been different?



we'd all be saying "who?"

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- What did she do as Secretary of State that I could label as exceptional?




she directly contributed to the deaths of 4 US citizens, she makes ISIS Proud
she sold nuclear materials to russian 'benefactors'





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As Secretary of State, I just don't really know... Has she accomplished something significant?




I know, she's successfully convinced the american public that it's ok to be a
bunch of fools so they should vote for her anyway and just forget about all
these things, now how she achieved that is through an unprecedented level of
teamwork that included convincing the media that she'll take care of them in
exchange for taking care of her

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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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2 guys related to the DNC scandal are dead too
right from the outset they wanted people to veer torwards hilary rather than bernie because they thought his 30 years of progressive policy was getting old right as it started to get popular and Hilary's 'yupping' it now

Edited by Konyap (10/02/16 02:03 PM)

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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: chopstick]
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chopstick said:
Thailand

Before Hillary: Thailand’s Red Shirt movement was a powerful force that demanded a return to democracy in Thailand and the restoration of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, ousted in a 2006 military coup, to power.

After Hillary: A Red Shirt protest in 2010 resulted in a bloody crackdown by the Thai military. Clinton remained silent about the Thai army’s killing of protesters and the mass arrests of Red Shirt leaders. U.S. military assistance to the Thai government was continued by Clinton. When Thaskin’s sister, Yingluck Shinawatra, became prime minister in 2011, Clinton began working to undermine her and her government in a manner not unlike Clinton’s subterfuge against Rousseff in Brazil and Cristina Kirchner in Argentina. When it comes to women leaders, Clinton only tolerates conservatives who kow-tow to the United States. The pressure against Yingluck eventually resulted in her ouster in 2014 and her being criminally charged in the same manner that saw Rousseff charged in Brazil.




those arent quite the facts while some facts are included such as names of factual people

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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Morel Guy said:
Pay cash and only have repairs, taxes, insurence, and utilities.



repairs only cost me the price of materials and my time.
renters pay their landlord's property taxes
renters pay their landlord's property insurance costs
renters pay for their utilities




Renting is only good for people that can't preform property mantinence.  Some people don't want to mow, pay for a new roof or water heater.  Actually knew someone who inherited a house and sold it to go rent a place.  Some people don't the freedom of owning due to certain burdens of owning.


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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
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That's just a justification for trump pris I expect more fact gathering in both sides of the spectrum . I'd rather have all of hillarys shit then a president who thinks we can just stop trade with China ,build a wall and try and make Mexico pay for it,"monitor mosques",brand Muslim refugees with armbands like Jews in nazi germany,a president that thinks it's okay to punish women for abortions,make fun of someone with cerebral palsy,saying POWs aren't war heros because they were captured,calls Putin a "strong leader" and admires him, didn't know Putin had already invaded Ukraine 2 years after the fact. A president who says he isn't taking the possibility of nuclear war if one country attacked us, says that a Mexican judge can make a fair ruling because he'd be biased,he's a notorious womanizer and he couldn't answer a single fucking question in the first debate against Hillary without avoiding the question entirely and subverting every question about him to what Hillary is doing wrong . One question asked by the arbitrator "Lester holt" he refused to answer because he says he never supported the Iraq war when they had a quote to prove it. Plus after the debate I did some digging and he did support the Iraq war at the time.

Also I realize he "retorted" a lot of these things but that's even more dispicable because that means he meant it but he was losing voters so apologized about certain things.


I feel embarrassed trump is even American,even if he wasn't running for office and said these things I'd still be horrified but to do it in an international political stage is fucking asinine


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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Seriously_trippin said:
That's just a justification for trump pris I expect more fact gathering in both sides of the spectrum . I'd rather have all of hillarys shit then a president who thinks we can just stop trade with China ,build a wall and try and make Mexico pay for it,"monitor mosques",brand Muslim refugees with armbands like Jews in nazi germany,a president that thinks it's okay to punish women for abortions,make fun of someone with cerebral palsy,saying POWs aren't war heros because they were captured,calls Putin a "strong leader" and admires him, didn't know Putin had already invaded Ukraine 2 years after the fact. A president who says he isn't taking the possibility of nuclear war if one country attacked us, says that a Mexican judge can make a fair ruling because he'd be biased,he's a notorious womanizer and he couldn't answer a single fucking question in the first debate against Hillary without avoiding the question entirely and subverting every question about him to what Hillary is doing wrong . One question asked by the arbitrator "Lester holt" he refused to answer because he says he never supported the Iraq war when they had a quote to prove it. Plus after the debate I did some digging and he did support the Iraq war at the time.

Also I realize he "retorted" a lot of these things but that's even more dispicable because that means he meant it but he was losing voters so apologized about certain things.


I feel embarrassed trump is even American,even if he wasn't running for office and said these things I'd still be horrified but to do it in an international political stage is fucking asinine



so you're fine with the very same corruption that's got people like trump in the
public eye, maintain the status quo and all that. it's been such a winning plan
in all the previous elections

hillary supported the iraq war before she was against it, hillary voted for it,
was hillary so hotheaded in 2003 that she voted for an action she says she now
regrets, what's going to happen when she's in the oval office and she's pissed off
at putin, will her temper get the better of her? isnt that the same nonsensical
hypothetical shit people are pushing at trumplestiltskin?

people love playing the giant douche/shit sandwich crap from southpark only this
election it's 2 shit sandwiches but one wears a power tie and the other a pant suit

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Re: Can somebody tell me what Hillary has accomplished during her career? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:so you're fine with the very same corruption that's got people like trump in the
public eye, maintain the status quo and all that. it's been such a winning plan
in all the previous elections



"I admit that people like Trump are the problem, but he hasn't had a turn at playing King yet
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