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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: VisualLearner]
    #7984106 - 02/05/08 07:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Noviseer]
    #7984133 - 02/05/08 07:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)


"lul wut?! You's don't want me to win?!" :freakybirdthing:


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: The_Ghost]
    #7984349 - 02/05/08 08:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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how so? Is she to the left of edwards and obama?




Actually in some ways yes. Her health care plan is much more socialist leaning than Obama's, if I remember correctly.

People who hate Hillary just hate how she looks and acts, many of her policies are very intelligent. I just don't want her to be president for that very reason: she's too polarizing, and right now America needs its president to decrease partisanship not increase it, and I think Obama has the potential to do that.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: g00ru]
    #7984498 - 02/05/08 08:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

From my understanding she wants to give privately owned insurance companies tons of government money to run our health care system. Not very socialist if you ask me. I don't think Obama has laid out as specific a plan as Hilary but it is safe to say he couldn't have a less socialized plan. Any less and things would just stay the same.


She also has repeatedly voted for war resolutions and war spending, opposite of obama.


She is establishment. She is not her husband and it is not fair to judge her on his past decisions but I think it is safe to assume she will tote the typical, republican-lite DNC line that dominates our legistature. Its not like she hasn't been a leader of the democratic party for some time now.

I just can't believe she is more liberal than Obama, not that he is all that leftist himself


If she gets elected it will mean that most of the people on the shroomery will not have been alive when there wasn't a Clinton or Bush ion the Whitehouse. That is scary to me.


She isn't John McCain, I'll give you that, he is retarded, and the worst kind of hack


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: DirtMcgirt]
    #7984509 - 02/05/08 08:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe I'm misinformed. But giving money too private corporations, while not socialist, is leftist. Government intervention. Although it's a practice commonly carried out by conservative governments so I could see why you would say it was not a liberal policy.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: DonkeyShell]
    #7984547 - 02/05/08 09:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

clinton is so fake that it pains me to even watch her speak anymore. i can't stand her. i hope for the sake of humanity that she doesn't get the nomination.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: g00ru]
    #7984557 - 02/05/08 09:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I can't say I'm an expert and could be wrong. It does sound like a step towards the left, but I feel it is only a baby step.


I want bigger change than either Obama or Clinton would deliver. I'll most likely vote 3rd party again, but hope Obama wins over all the other probable candidates


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: g00ru]
    #7984571 - 02/05/08 09:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hilary and Obama are both not against considering the option of hitting Iran with a nuke.. just letting you know if you want to avoid the possibility of World War 3, and both agree that Iran is a threat. The only person who seems worth voting for is Ron Paul. All the rest (of the candidates who are left) seem to be bought out by the military industrial complex.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7984589 - 02/05/08 09:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

how about a source for that claim? i won't hold my breathe.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7984595 - 02/05/08 09:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Hilary and Obama are both not against considering the option of hitting Iran with a nuke.. just letting you know if you want to avoid the possibility of World War 3, and both agree that Iran is a threat. The only person who seems worth voting for is Ron Paul. All the rest (of the candidates who are left) seem to be bought out by the military industrial complex.




"Hitting Iran with a nuke" isn't really a platform position. What I would hope is that if a situation with Iran did arise, then either president would do what he/she thought would keep America the most safe, and not think politically.

Laying a blanket statement of "I will never drop bombs" is a bit naive imo. We can't be 100% non interventionist, this is the world we live in.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7984598 - 02/05/08 09:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I read it in Macleans magazine while I was in the waiting room for a doctor's appointment today. They were both quoted as saying "no option is off the table"

You don't have to be non-interventionist, just stop bullying other countries and starting preemptive wars


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7984613 - 02/05/08 09:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I read it in Macleans magazine while I was in the waiting room for a doctor's appointment today. They were both quoted as saying "no option is off the table"




That's what I would want to hear, actually.

You can espouse peace as much as you want, but there are circumstances that could arise where using nuclear weapons would be the necessary move.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: g00ru]
    #7985586 - 02/06/08 03:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Looks like she is going to be the democrat candidate: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/

ugh


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: beatyou]
    #7985598 - 02/06/08 03:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

She's not even ahead by 100 delegates. It's not over yet imo.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: beatyou]
    #7985602 - 02/06/08 03:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well, the system works exactly like we knew it would. Three cheers for the media!

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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Ferris]
    #7986406 - 02/06/08 12:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Ferris said:
She's not even ahead by 100 delegates. It's not over yet imo.




yea too early to call still, gonna be close


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: beatyou]
    #7986429 - 02/06/08 12:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i told some people about hilery and her evil hand thats in the medical industry (medical mafia) and they were all going crossed on me.

well the day has come and im over it already seeing how its come to pass.

what we need is a arts rennisons


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #7986449 - 02/06/08 12:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

shes into mind control of the worse kind.
she is ruthless.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Astral_JL]
    #7986465 - 02/06/08 12:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

And meanwhile McCain leads the race for the republicans. A man that supports Bush's 3.2 trillion dollar budget, openly supports torture and refers to south asians as "gooks". I'm beginning to lose all faith whatsoever in the stupid ass people of this country. Apparently we haven't learned anything from the past 8 years and people love to have their liberties stripped away one at a time. And these assholes would rather spend 5 hours on their myspace blog that no one gives a flying shit about then take 10 minutes to research what candidates really stand for.
Hillary or Mccain.. either way we're fucked. Let's just hope something really fucked up happens.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Shroomism]
    #7986495 - 02/06/08 12:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

wasn't McCain in a POW camp? i am ignorant on the details, but if i were imprisoned by anyone, i would call them the most derogatory name i could think of.


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