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If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End!
    #7979863 - 02/04/08 08:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

We will not have a choice if Hillary wins tomorrow. Obama is the last real candidate who has a shot. Hillary is full of shit, crying conveniently before huge election dates. What's she gonna do when it comes time to lead or meet with a foreign leader, is she just gonna cry when she doesn't get her way. The Clintons may have been the greatest Republican regime America has ever seen. They still only guard their own interests. Remember Whitewater? Remember Norman Hsu? Put a stop to this now! End Hillary's campaign tomorrow!


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: DonkeyShell]
    #7979875 - 02/04/08 08:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hillary crying isn't the reason she shouldn't be elected.

All politicians calculate everything they do in front of a camera, Obama included.

Obama should win because in my opinion he has more chance than any other candidate available to truly unite the nation.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: DonkeyShell]
    #7979884 - 02/04/08 08:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

What? Hillary cried when?


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: DonkeyShell]
    #7979892 - 02/04/08 08:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I forgot to turn in my voter registration in Ohio :sad:
I'm registered independent in New York, so I can vote in primaries.
Fuck New York sometimes.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: MOTH]
    #7979899 - 02/04/08 08:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Check the thread Women and Dirty Politics. This is really a repost.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Ferris]
    #7979947 - 02/04/08 08:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

vote Ron Paul.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7979993 - 02/04/08 09:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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drkrobotnik said:
vote Ron Paul.




thats a wasted vote at this point
put your vote towards something that is realistic and can make a change

I'm fucking pissed I turned my voter registration in one day late and now I cant vote for the primaries :crankey:
at least I can still vote in the presidential


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: mikeytro]
    #7980004 - 02/04/08 09:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I declared myself an independent. I can't vote in the primaries but I really don't want either party name attached to my own.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: mikeytro]
    #7980113 - 02/04/08 09:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i guess i'll waste my vote on the last shot that we've got at a decent president..


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7980120 - 02/04/08 09:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ya, Obama


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: mikeytro]
    #7980134 - 02/04/08 09:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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mikeytro said:
Quote:

drkrobotnik said:
vote Ron Paul.




thats a wasted vote at this point
put your vote towards something that is realistic and can make a change

I'm fucking pissed I turned my voter registration in one day late and now I cant vote for the primaries :crankey:
at least I can still vote in the presidential




Sounds like your's was the wasted vote.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: circularvortex]
    #7983257 - 02/05/08 04:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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circularvortex said:
Quote:

mikeytro said:
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drkrobotnik said:
vote Ron Paul.




thats a wasted vote at this point
put your vote towards something that is realistic and can make a change

I'm fucking pissed I turned my voter registration in one day late and now I cant vote for the primaries :crankey:
at least I can still vote in the presidential




Sounds like your's was the wasted vote.




Both are.

Obama is simply the better candidate. Hillary crying is really meaningless overall, but the main point is that she is kind of a republican.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: DonkeyShell]
    #7983296 - 02/05/08 04:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well i won't be pleased if hillary wins presidency, but i think it be so much better than lets say romny, or gulliani, but like stated before its only realistic whos gonna win

either hillary or obama
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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: DonkeyShell]
    #7983300 - 02/05/08 04:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if hillary wins tomorrow, it's not the end.

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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: memes]
    #7983366 - 02/05/08 04:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

your all dumb :billseal:
Under the pyramid reads NEW WORLD ORDER fucktards. Your vote does NOT make one fuckin difference even if the elections are not setup cause the people running dont make any real decisions anyway.....noob fucktards:mad2:


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: VisualLearner]
    #7983377 - 02/05/08 04:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i want to be the first with a tinfoil hat cause every fucker in america is gonna be begging for one within the next 10 years. Mark my words and suck my balls in advance for all the shitty replies by the undereducated.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: VisualLearner]
    #7983455 - 02/05/08 05:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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VisualLearner said:
i want to be the first with a tinfoil hat cause every fucker in america is gonna be begging for one within the next 10 years. Mark my words and suck my balls in advance for all the shitty replies by the undereducated.




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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: eggystardust]
    #7983474 - 02/05/08 05:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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QFT




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sounds familiar. -RL?


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: DonkeyShell]
    #7983482 - 02/05/08 05:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)




Hillary crying is really meaningless overall, but the main point is that she is kind of a republican.




hahahahahaha did you you seriously just say that?
she is the furthest thing from a republican I've ever seen


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Jive turkey]
    #7983729 - 02/05/08 06:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Jive turkey said:



Hillary crying is really meaningless overall, but the main point is that she is kind of a republican.




hahahahahaha did you you seriously just say that?
she is the furthest thing from a republican I've ever seen




how so? Is she to the left of edwards and obama?


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: VisualLearner]
    #7984106 - 02/05/08 07:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

lol


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Noviseer]
    #7984133 - 02/05/08 07:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)


"lul wut?! You's don't want me to win?!" :freakybirdthing:


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: The_Ghost]
    #7984349 - 02/05/08 08:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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how so? Is she to the left of edwards and obama?




Actually in some ways yes. Her health care plan is much more socialist leaning than Obama's, if I remember correctly.

People who hate Hillary just hate how she looks and acts, many of her policies are very intelligent. I just don't want her to be president for that very reason: she's too polarizing, and right now America needs its president to decrease partisanship not increase it, and I think Obama has the potential to do that.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: g00ru]
    #7984498 - 02/05/08 08:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

From my understanding she wants to give privately owned insurance companies tons of government money to run our health care system. Not very socialist if you ask me. I don't think Obama has laid out as specific a plan as Hilary but it is safe to say he couldn't have a less socialized plan. Any less and things would just stay the same.


She also has repeatedly voted for war resolutions and war spending, opposite of obama.


She is establishment. She is not her husband and it is not fair to judge her on his past decisions but I think it is safe to assume she will tote the typical, republican-lite DNC line that dominates our legistature. Its not like she hasn't been a leader of the democratic party for some time now.

I just can't believe she is more liberal than Obama, not that he is all that leftist himself


If she gets elected it will mean that most of the people on the shroomery will not have been alive when there wasn't a Clinton or Bush ion the Whitehouse. That is scary to me.


She isn't John McCain, I'll give you that, he is retarded, and the worst kind of hack


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: DirtMcgirt]
    #7984509 - 02/05/08 08:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe I'm misinformed. But giving money too private corporations, while not socialist, is leftist. Government intervention. Although it's a practice commonly carried out by conservative governments so I could see why you would say it was not a liberal policy.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: DonkeyShell]
    #7984547 - 02/05/08 09:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

clinton is so fake that it pains me to even watch her speak anymore. i can't stand her. i hope for the sake of humanity that she doesn't get the nomination.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: g00ru]
    #7984557 - 02/05/08 09:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I can't say I'm an expert and could be wrong. It does sound like a step towards the left, but I feel it is only a baby step.


I want bigger change than either Obama or Clinton would deliver. I'll most likely vote 3rd party again, but hope Obama wins over all the other probable candidates


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: g00ru]
    #7984571 - 02/05/08 09:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hilary and Obama are both not against considering the option of hitting Iran with a nuke.. just letting you know if you want to avoid the possibility of World War 3, and both agree that Iran is a threat. The only person who seems worth voting for is Ron Paul. All the rest (of the candidates who are left) seem to be bought out by the military industrial complex.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7984589 - 02/05/08 09:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

how about a source for that claim? i won't hold my breathe.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7984595 - 02/05/08 09:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Hilary and Obama are both not against considering the option of hitting Iran with a nuke.. just letting you know if you want to avoid the possibility of World War 3, and both agree that Iran is a threat. The only person who seems worth voting for is Ron Paul. All the rest (of the candidates who are left) seem to be bought out by the military industrial complex.




"Hitting Iran with a nuke" isn't really a platform position. What I would hope is that if a situation with Iran did arise, then either president would do what he/she thought would keep America the most safe, and not think politically.

Laying a blanket statement of "I will never drop bombs" is a bit naive imo. We can't be 100% non interventionist, this is the world we live in.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7984598 - 02/05/08 09:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I read it in Macleans magazine while I was in the waiting room for a doctor's appointment today. They were both quoted as saying "no option is off the table"

You don't have to be non-interventionist, just stop bullying other countries and starting preemptive wars


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7984613 - 02/05/08 09:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I read it in Macleans magazine while I was in the waiting room for a doctor's appointment today. They were both quoted as saying "no option is off the table"




That's what I would want to hear, actually.

You can espouse peace as much as you want, but there are circumstances that could arise where using nuclear weapons would be the necessary move.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: g00ru]
    #7985586 - 02/06/08 03:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Looks like she is going to be the democrat candidate: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/

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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: beatyou]
    #7985598 - 02/06/08 03:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

She's not even ahead by 100 delegates. It's not over yet imo.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: beatyou]
    #7985602 - 02/06/08 03:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well, the system works exactly like we knew it would. Three cheers for the media!

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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Ferris]
    #7986406 - 02/06/08 12:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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She's not even ahead by 100 delegates. It's not over yet imo.




yea too early to call still, gonna be close


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: beatyou]
    #7986429 - 02/06/08 12:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i told some people about hilery and her evil hand thats in the medical industry (medical mafia) and they were all going crossed on me.

well the day has come and im over it already seeing how its come to pass.

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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #7986449 - 02/06/08 12:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

shes into mind control of the worse kind.
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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Astral_JL]
    #7986465 - 02/06/08 12:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

And meanwhile McCain leads the race for the republicans. A man that supports Bush's 3.2 trillion dollar budget, openly supports torture and refers to south asians as "gooks". I'm beginning to lose all faith whatsoever in the stupid ass people of this country. Apparently we haven't learned anything from the past 8 years and people love to have their liberties stripped away one at a time. And these assholes would rather spend 5 hours on their myspace blog that no one gives a flying shit about then take 10 minutes to research what candidates really stand for.
Hillary or Mccain.. either way we're fucked. Let's just hope something really fucked up happens.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Shroomism]
    #7986495 - 02/06/08 12:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

wasn't McCain in a POW camp? i am ignorant on the details, but if i were imprisoned by anyone, i would call them the most derogatory name i could think of.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: memes]
    #7986503 - 02/06/08 12:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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wasn't McCain in a POW camp? i am ignorant on the details, but if i were imprisoned by anyone, i would call them the most derogatory name i could think of.




McCain was a pow in nam for almost six years, he is batshit crazy and i dont think he is even stable enough to run the country.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: memes]
    #7986504 - 02/06/08 12:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You'd think someone who's been a POW would not support torture, but I guess fight fire with fire huh


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Shroomism]
    #7986516 - 02/06/08 12:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

he understands it to be a necessity, which i agree with. however, once it's OK - the lines to who it can be used against morph to unwanted locations.

However, against an enemy - torture FTW. it's basic warfare


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    #7986532 - 02/06/08 12:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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And meanwhile McCain leads the race for the republicans. A man that supports Bush's 3.2 trillion dollar budget, openly supports torture and refers to south asians as "gooks". I'm beginning to lose all faith whatsoever in the stupid ass people of this country. Apparently we haven't learned anything from the past 8 years and people love to have their liberties stripped away one at a time. And these assholes would rather spend 5 hours on their myspace blog that no one gives a flying shit about then take 10 minutes to research what candidates really stand for.
Hillary or Mccain.. either way we're fucked. Let's just hope something really fucked up happens.




Actually, McCain is the MOST OUTSPOKEN against torture on EITHER side of the camps.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: memes]
    #7986535 - 02/06/08 12:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)




Between Hillary and bonnaroo... 2008 is looking weak


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: ilus]
    #7986551 - 02/06/08 12:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hwhahaha perfect


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: memes]
    #7986571 - 02/06/08 12:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think people are demonizing Hillary too much...she comes off terribly, but it's not like she's the epitome of political corruption while Ron Paul or somebody is a pure warrior of freedom. Some of these claims that Hillary will just be 8 more years of Bush or that she is actually a republican, are pretty much unfounded.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: g00ru]
    #7986600 - 02/06/08 01:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well it's not like there is much difference between republican and democrat anyway. they are both two sides of the same coin.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Shroomism]
    #7986606 - 02/06/08 01:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

^ :thumbup:


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Noviseer]
    #7986825 - 02/06/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Obama has already mentioned many times, "decriminalizing" marijuana use and reforming the "Drug War". It's no secret that Obama has done blow and the reefer.

Obama's mind is much more far open than Hilary's.

Hilary is also incredibly adamant about tightening "ESRB" rules and video games regulations.
That, right there, is one blow against our right to media, expression, entertainment, etc.

If she plans to crack down on that then it shouldn't be too much further in her agenda to limit other mediums.

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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: ilus]
    #7987926 - 02/06/08 05:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Between Hillary and bonnaroo... 2008 is looking weak




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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: DonkeyShell]
    #7987953 - 02/06/08 06:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Fuck hillary :shrug:


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    #7987969 - 02/06/08 06:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i dont wanna give either them my vote, im gonna vote for RON PAUL so he knows how many people follow his ideas


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: ilus]
    #7987975 - 02/06/08 06:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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the third from the last one is pretty fucking creepy... kinda like something out of the blackhole sun video that soundgarden did.

Obama = decriminalization... thats why he got my vote.. hopefully, hopefully he will be the democratic choice.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Robo]
    #7987992 - 02/06/08 06:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

she's really starting to piss me off, especially since she won with her retarded policies california. the most annoying part is, i know for a fact, from many people my mom has talked to at work, sooooooooooooooo many women are just plain voting for her, just so theres a first woman president.

that's really not a reason to vote for someone.... i guess its the same as the south (alot not all) just voting for someone who is "of faith".

i felt my stomach hurt when i saw hilary is beating obama in california, guess all we can do is sit and wait now...

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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: razmablues]
    #7988004 - 02/06/08 06:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Once again, fuck Hillary :tripping:

And Dr. Paul is a lost cause at this point, so Obama you have my vote I guess.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Robo]
    #7988262 - 02/06/08 06:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

m sad about my home state being so fucking retarted


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: notapillow]
    #7988412 - 02/06/08 07:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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she's really starting to piss me off, especially since she won with her retarded policies california. the most annoying part is, i know for a fact, from many people my mom has talked to at work, sooooooooooooooo many women are just plain voting for her, just so theres a first woman president.




I can understand how that would piss you off. I'm not voting for Hillary, I'm going for Obama. But I think you should at least make an attempt to understand where women are coming from.

Over half of third graders now believe that a woman CAN'T be president. Society is still sexist in alarming ways, but ways that are hidden. Women grow up with FEW, if ANY, intellectual role models. Sure, there's Madame Curie and Ruth Bader Ginsberg, but no one well known and in the public eye. Many women see Hillary as their hero. She has consistently campaigned on issues that WOMEN care about, like healthcare, education, ABORTION (she's uncompromising on this), women's rights, and of course, pant suits in a variety of colors.

Not only do women actually follow her policies very closely, but they look up to her, and all women, who represent us. Currently, women make up only 11% of elected representation. We are DRAMATICALLY underrepresented. Just once it would be nice to see an abortion bill signed by a woman instead of a man. It might be nice to feel like women weren't being "allowed" rights to Plan B or family planning services by men.

Can you understand the attachment women have to these issues, and to seeing a strong woman president? Imagine if you lived in a society where for over 200 years only women were elected presidents and for a loooooong time kept men in the home without careers or a social life with a passel of squalling babies. Would you want to vote for a man?


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: kriminalelement]
    #7988563 - 02/06/08 07:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This whole situation is rather grim. I wish I could lighten the mood by saying "Well, impeachment is always a possibility," but that obviously didn't work with the first Clinton who fucked around in office. That's not necessarily a stab at Bill, but, it just means Hilary would need to be caught having an orgy in the oval office while smoking PCP before we could actually oust her.

Also, kriminalelement's post reeks of truth.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Gill]
    #7988626 - 02/06/08 07:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: kriminalelement]
    #7988897 - 02/06/08 08:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I can understand how that would piss you off. I'm not voting for Hillary, I'm going for Obama. But I think you should at least make an attempt to understand where women are coming from.

Over half of third graders now believe that a woman CAN'T be president. Society is still sexist in alarming ways, but ways that are hidden. Women grow up with FEW, if ANY, intellectual role models. Sure, there's Madame Curie and Ruth Bader Ginsberg, but no one well known and in the public eye. Many women see Hillary as their hero. She has consistently campaigned on issues that WOMEN care about, like healthcare, education, ABORTION (she's uncompromising on this), women's rights, and of course, pant suits in a variety of colors.

Not only do women actually follow her policies very closely, but they look up to her, and all women, who represent us. Currently, women make up only 11% of elected representation. We are DRAMATICALLY underrepresented. Just once it would be nice to see an abortion bill signed by a woman instead of a man. It might be nice to feel like women weren't being "allowed" rights to Plan B or family planning services by men.

Can you understand the attachment women have to these issues, and to seeing a strong woman president? Imagine if you lived in a society where for over 200 years only women were elected presidents and for a loooooong time kept men in the home without careers or a social life with a passel of squalling babies. Would you want to vote for a man?




I can definitely understand this. I actually see some of my own latent sexism come out when I find myself disliking Hillary.

I think it was actually more of an ethnic victory for Hillary in California, more than a gender issue, if the talking heads on CNN are to be believed.


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Re: If Hillary Wins Tomorrow, That's the End! [Re: Noviseer]
    #7988962 - 02/06/08 08:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I recommend Obama.

He wasn't my initial choice, but, hey, he's not too conservative, he's not an extremist, he'll get us the fuck out of the war, he truly wants some change and he's open-minded.

And of course, he stands a chance.

He's got my vote this Saturday in the Washington State Caucus.


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