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    #23590834 - 08/29/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

In the 1960s, John Lilly, M.D., prolific writer and explorer of consciousness via the isolation tank (his invention), and contemporary and associate of Timothy Leary, began experiments in the Virgin Islands aiming to establish meaningful communication between humans and the bottlenose dolphin (Tursiops truncatus). Lilly financed, mostly personally, a human-dolphin cohabitat, a house on the ocean's shore that contained an area that was partially flooded and allowed a human and dolphin to live together in the same space, sharing meals, play, language lessons, and even sleep.

Two experiments of this sort are explained in detail in Lilly's popular books. The first experiment was more of a test run to check psychological and other strains on the human and cetacean participants, determining the extent of the need for other human contact, dry clothing, time alone, and so on. Despite tensions after several weeks, the experimenter, Margaret C. Howe, agreed to a 2 1⁄2-month experiment, living isolated with a dolphin named Peter.

A basic outline of Peter dolphin's linguistic progress is as follows: early lessons involved mostly noise and interruptions from Peter during English lessons, and a food reward of fish was necessary for him to 'attend class.' After several weeks, a concerted effort by Peter to imitate the instructor's speech was evident, and human-like sounds were apparent, and recorded. More interesting was the dolphin's immediate grasp of basic semantics, such as the different aural indicators for 'ball' and 'doll' and other toys present in the aquarium. Peter was able to perform tasks such as retrieval on the (aurally) indicated object without fail. Later in the project the dolphin's ability to process linguistic syntax was made apparent, in that Peter could distinguish between the commands (e.g., only) "Bring the ball to the doll," and "Bring the doll to the ball." This ability not only demonstrates the bottlenose dolphin's grasp of basic grammar, but also implies the dolphins' own language must include some such syntactical rules. The correlation between length and 'syllables' (bursts of the dolphin's sound) with the instructor's speech also went from essentially zero at the beginning of the session to almost a perfect correlation by its completion. I.e., a sentence spoken by the instructor involving 35 syllables and lasting 8 seconds would be met with an 8-second burst of sound from Peter dolphin involving 35 easily discernible 'syllables' or bursts of sound.

Any of you guys ever heard about this experiment or other studies regarding humans communicating with dolphins?

I find this type of research to be very interesting and would love to learn more about it, im sure dolphins would have some interesting knowledge to impart on us.


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23590844 - 08/29/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I like to watch them do the jumpin stuff in the pools.


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: goldcaphunter] * 3
    #23590902 - 08/29/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

One time on 8 hits of acid I turned into a dolphin and my friends were like "whattt man you're like echo communicating with fish right now man you're killin it" and I was just like "don't interrupt me man I'm doin my thing"
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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #23590927 - 08/29/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You left out the part when Margaret Howe started jerking the dolphin off several times a day.


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: bendychicken]
    #23590938 - 08/29/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

anyone who doesn't believe me just had to be there you woulda known I wasn't bullshitting you could just tell


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23590939 - 08/29/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They have a deeper understanding of things than we think.

There's this one guy I've always found highly intriguing that forms highly intimate, personal bonds with dolphins.

Have a look. http://archive.today/1p8y7


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: 1234go]
    #23590941 - 08/29/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How many times have you even become a dolphin


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23591160 - 08/29/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

1234GODOLPHIN!


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23591289 - 08/29/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

no but I've ridden a dolphin before.

http://www.roatanims.org/


SUPER interesting place, the dolphins there are actually able to come and go as they please, the enclosures are open to the ocean - I believe the only dolphin there I saw in a full enclosure had just given birth so they had sectioned her and her baby off from the other dolphins for a bit.
They come for the fishes, but they all hang out on the local reefs chillin with divers too.


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23591308 - 08/29/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They say that if 7 dolphins meet at the head, it summons the


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #23591316 - 08/29/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's pretty cool. They're like dolphins on welfare..


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: zZZz] * 1
    #23591328 - 08/29/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You think there are some snob ass dolphins that just criticize the shit out of all the other dolphins??


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: shadyy]
    #23591332 - 08/29/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Based on my research there are indeed some snob ass skank ass Dolphins but the real deal ones don't be minding them


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23591339 - 08/29/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

word


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23591543 - 08/29/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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1234GODOLPHIN!




Go Go Gadget Dolphin! :lol:

U guys ever heard about the story of the man who had consenual sex with a dolphin? http://jezebel.com/a-chat-with-malcolm-brenner-man-famous-for-having-sex-1685059436

Its pretty interesting.


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23591644 - 08/29/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm cynical after finding out that Koko the gorilla probably wasn't really aware of what she was signing. I'm not sure how far attempts to teach non-humans our language and grammar and syntax etc. will work, especially without effective blinding(??) controls.

There are physiological barriers to teaching a dolphin to speak English (or even teaching an gorilla to sign language). Maybe it would be easier to build a machine to speak dolphin or ape?


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23591731 - 08/29/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

My Dolphin sex site is way more informative than yours.


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: 1234go]
    #23591759 - 08/29/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

oH yeah?

Let me see your site than.


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23591774 - 08/29/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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One time on 8 hits of acid I turned into a dolphin and my friends were like "whattt man you're like echo communicating with fish right now man you're killin it" and I was just like "don't interrupt me man I'm doin my thing"
:barbershreds:



That was a pretty neat game.


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Re: communicating with dolphins [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23591776 - 08/29/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Check my first post in the thread, bro. :thumbup:


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