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Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms - UPDATED
    #2350899 - 02/18/04 05:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hey folks,

Pl. pulmonarious fruited from the experimental "Large" Straw Based MycoBag. Here at the office we do it ultra 'ghetto' style to prove that anybody can grow using these simple bag based kits.

Juiced up bag with culture syringe, place on computer monitor for incubation warmth (it's cool to watch mycelium spread while you work). When colonized, we cut off the bag just below the substrate level and place in our humidity chamber. Week later, viola! No special attention paid to temps. We have a cool mist that blows fresh air on a 1 1/2 hour rotation for 15 mins. The humidity chamber is just one of those simple 4 shelf indoor mini "green-houses."





Get in ma Belly!


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: psilocyber]
    #2351907 - 02/18/04 09:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Damn nice flush......

:smile:

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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: psilocyber]
    #2351913 - 02/18/04 09:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How do you have the hummer pumping air into the greenhouse? Or is the hummer inside the greenhouse?

Great job!
I was reading last night that when Stamets puts the blocks in the fruiting chamber he leaves a couple inches over the substrate and cuts it off later after primordia have formed. The bag being taller than the substrate block creates a microclime of high CO2 and humidity, perfect for primordia formation.


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: psilocyber]
    #2352166 - 02/18/04 10:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They look great, how do they taste?


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: YidakiMan]
    #2353739 - 02/19/04 08:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'll take some pics of the chamber setup here soon and post some links to the material we used if anybody is interested. MycoBag has a similar setup in their office, but they have definitely outdone ours by creating custom piping for both their humidifier and air exchange.

We simply place the cool mist Vicks humidifier on the bottom most shelf. The "door" to the chamber is unzipped on the bottom shelf on both sides to allow the input of the cool mist to be sitting slightly outside the chamber. The exhaust for the humidifier simply points up through the middle of the chamber. It pushes enough air to feel a gentle breeze at the top of the chamber. This isn't a "traditional" cool mist though, it basically sucks up water from the resevior and spins it around real fast, not like those crappy kind that pull air through a soaked "filter" using a big fan.

Phoenix are my favorite oyster so far, though I've yet to have the King, which everyone says is the tastiest. Oysters work well as substitutes for button mushrooms in many recipies, like pasta sauces, ect.

Most of the fruits in the middle of that cluster were largely stem and very little cap. Only the clusters near the edges and those that outgrew the others in the middle were harvested for food. This is an indication that we need to modify the airflow a bit with some piping to direct the air a bit better.


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: psilocyber]
    #2353910 - 02/19/04 09:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That's awesome!!
I would definitely be interested in those links of yours.


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: psilocyber]
    #2354646 - 02/19/04 02:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

A single or a couple computer fans would take care of that stagnant air problem right away.


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: YidakiMan]
    #2355197 - 02/19/04 04:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

We're thinking about some computer fans wired up and placed in-line with some 3-inch flexible tubing will work to take care of the stagnant areas of the chamber. Shouldn't cost too much and we can hook them up to run the same time as the humidifier. We need to move air too because water is collecting on the Reishi branches in the chamber and I don't want any Reishi rot!

Thanks for the kind words, links an pics to come soon.


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: Kttail]
    #2355303 - 02/19/04 05:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Here are some additional pics of the chamber setup as well as links to the material we used to make it... ghetoo style:







The Vicks Cool Mist unit is the same one found here:

http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.a...x=BUY-GFI-0-MWS

The 4 Shelf Mini Greenhouse is similar to that shown here:

http://ykhq.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50366038/Sell_4_Tier_Mini_Green_House.html

Both items can be found on ebay for pretty cheap.


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: psilocyber]
    #2355731 - 02/19/04 06:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Looks exactly how mine was setup. I'm in the process of engineering something new. Blueprints indicate that it can house eight columns 4 feet tall and 6 inches in diameter. That might be a little tight, but it's a forecast. The dimensions of the new greenhouse will be 6feet tall, five feet long, and two feet deep. Constant airexchange and humidification via a floating fogger inside a 5 gal bucket and pushing air with a CPU fan. The volume fo the greenhouse would be 60 Feet^3, a fan that moved only 10 cfm of air would be satisfactory. A positive pressure environment would reduce the cfm slightly enough to give me around 5 air exchanges per hour, enough for any species.


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: YidakiMan]
    #2358155 - 02/20/04 07:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like an excellent setup. It's a bit larger than this chamber, which is about 2 feet deep and only 3 feet wide. We are really tailoring this towards Reishi, as all the folks in the office like Reishi tea and we want a nice constant supply for ourselves. Anything else that works in the chamber has been a bonus and we've recieved nice flushes from serveral varieties of Oysters as well as Agrocybes. Should have some good Agrocybe pictures to share in the next couple of days.


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: psilocyber]
    #2358223 - 02/20/04 08:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How do you prepare the reishi tea from the fresh reishi ?


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: psilocyber]
    #2361122 - 02/20/04 10:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)


Nice setup psilocyber.  This kind of greenhouse is definately something to aim for.

Hey, I just followed the link you gave for the cool mist and ratings on this item say it makes an incredibly loud noise...

any comments :wink: ?

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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: psilocyber]
    #2362838 - 02/21/04 09:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nice looking setup. Compact and doesn't take up much room!
I saw one of those greenhouses advertised recently at Walmart and Kmart. Seems like it wasn't too much money for something that's just basically a bakers rack and some clear visqueen?


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: Kttail]
    #2362972 - 02/21/04 10:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The cool mist isn't that loud, but I've heard quieter humidifiers before. We have a large Honeywell HEPA running in the same room so that drowns it out :wink:.

The Greenhouses can be purchased on Ebay for between $40-70 plus shipping. Shop around, they are almost all EXACTLY the same product but just sold by different companys.

We allow the Reishi to dry before chopping it up and using it in teas.


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: psilocyber]
    #2378634 - 02/26/04 10:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Here are some updated pictures from the same Phoenix Oyster block. These fruits formed along one side slightly below the bag level (they were still easy to harvest). They formed along this particular side because it is in the direct stream of our humidifier. Not bad for a second flush given the abundance of the first.

The first image was take 24 hours prior to the second. Fruits were harvested directly after the second picture:





This large Straw Based MycoBag will soon be available through MycoBag.com.


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: psilocyber]
    #2379882 - 02/26/04 03:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:shocked: :smile: :heart: I absolutely love seeing your stuff p-cyber.

man, i'm thinking about getting a green-house of my own built..


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: psilocyber]
    #2380890 - 02/26/04 09:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Absolutely amazing!!
Was there verm on the top of the bag? Or was that just part of the MycoBag. I'll be definitely checking out that website from time to time.


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: Kttail]
    #2382256 - 02/27/04 09:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That is vermiculate on the top of that substrate block. These "Large" bags are basically built on the same principle of the smaller MycoBags that have been so popular. Essentially it's a matrix of grasses and straw and flours with a built in "casing" layer to help retain moisture.

These larger blocks seem to be more suitable for growing larger volumes of mushrooms. I'm surprised at the size of the second flush, and we still have it in the chamber to see if it will give us a third.


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Re: Some Phoenix Oyster mushrooms from the office! [Re: psilocyber]
    #2397421 - 03/03/04 09:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

When finally I get my grow chamber built, I shall have to try one of these MycoBags!
What all species are they good for?


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