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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Spiritwithin] * 1
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Spiritwithin said:
One of my biggest fears is that one day my angel of a dog, my truest and most loyal friend, will be killed by such an aggressive dog. Just because he wanted to play and sniff...
My dog knows no evil, he is curious and friendly to everyone and everydog.
He fills my life with joy and love only certain dog owners can ever understand this... and those are not the ones keeping their dogs in crates or kennels, or the ones having a weaponized dog.



Without a doubt I'd fucking kill that dog. I love dogs but if someone or something goes after my dog, I'm fighting for that shit

My dog is the same way, just happy go lucky type dog. He just wants to play and be happy and lie in the sun or next to a fire

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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: UncleCid]
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UncleCid said:
Spiritwithin said:
I hate to say it, but for the dogs sake: Search out a new good home. You can't leave it in the crate all day. Not for the dog, not for you and not for the neighbours.
You will be glad you made that decision later even though it feels shitty now. It's still very young, it will adapt.
But keeping it in a crate all day, is not ok.
Sorry.



People keep dogs in a crate when their at work, then they take em out. It's not all day everyday. No dog owners do that


you can't say that no dog owners do that... what you should have said is nobody who loves a dog does that


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: sprinkles]
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sprinkles said:
every human being who owns a pitbull IS a fucking idiot.  There are no exceptions.



you are also an idiot.  an idiot who doesnt know anything about dogs. Period.  the end.


as a dog trainer I'd like to let you know that you sir are the least informed person here. pit bulls were bred as nanny dogs, they are excellent with child and home protection. I have met many many pit bulls from many many different owners and guess what? the only ones with any aggression were raised in a very stressful environment where their owner opened up room for violence in their relationship. if your dog would attack someone for getting in their face then your dog IS NOT KID FRIENDLY! KIDS GET CLOSE! you keep sounding more and more dumb


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: UncleCid] * 1
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Spiritwithin said:
One of my biggest fears is that one day my angel of a dog, my truest and most loyal friend, will be killed by such an aggressive dog. Just because he wanted to play and sniff...
My dog knows no evil, he is curious and friendly to everyone and everydog.
He fills my life with joy and love only certain dog owners can ever understand this... and those are not the ones keeping their dogs in crates or kennels, or the ones having a weaponized dog.

Oh and by the way: I will stay unemployed for as long as I need to find a job where I can bring him or until he dies.


I kind of agree, however,having a well trained attack dog can be very helpful. I would love to have a companion dog trained in protection someday but ofcourse it will be 100% by my will. I would never teach a dog in that way if I didn't have complete control over that dog.
UncleCid said:
Spiritwithin said:
One of my biggest fears is that one day my angel of a dog, my truest and most loyal friend, will be killed by such an aggressive dog. Just because he wanted to play and sniff...
My dog knows no evil, he is curious and friendly to everyone and everydog.
He fills my life with joy and love only certain dog owners can ever understand this... and those are not the ones keeping their dogs in crates or kennels, or the ones having a weaponized dog.



Without a doubt I'd fucking kill that dog. I love dogs but if someone or something goes after my dog, I'm fighting for that shit

My dog is the same way, just happy go lucky type dog. He just wants to play and be happy and lie in the sun or next to a fire


YEP YEP YEP! I'm the same way. I have a tiny dog who tries to stand up for himself but big dogs shrug it off.. without a doubt though I would have no problem tackling and headlocking the shit out of a dog, maybe give it a few whacks on the head, kick to the ribs or SOMETHING no way in hell my dog is dying from something that only has teeth


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: tryptkaloids]
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:scumbagman: sorry OP


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
UncleCid said:
Spiritwithin said:
I hate to say it, but for the dogs sake: Search out a new good home. You can't leave it in the crate all day. Not for the dog, not for you and not for the neighbours.
You will be glad you made that decision later even though it feels shitty now. It's still very young, it will adapt.
But keeping it in a crate all day, is not ok.
Sorry.



People keep dogs in a crate when their at work, then they take em out. It's not all day everyday. No dog owners do that


you can't say that no dog owners do that... what you should have said is nobody who loves a dog does that



Very true

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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: UncleCid]
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Sorry for this, but I couldn't help myself...

This is how a happy dog looks:




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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Spiritwithin]
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Haha I love when dogs sleep on their back. So funny. Great pic

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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: tryptkaloids]
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back on topic, I suggest trying without the crate for a bit. stay on a very consistent potty time make sure the dog gets plenty of food and water. maintain incredible exorcise and give the dog a bone or maybe set up a toy your dog can play with all day. like a bungee ball or something :shrug:  usually when a dog is misbehaving it is because he/she is trying to tell you something. the animal is often missing something from their life. sometimes if a dog has everything it needs it won't want to do anything. the main thing is keeping the dog comfortable.. if your dog has seperation anxiety then it's not too late to turn around. if the dog freaks out when you enter another room then I suggest baby steps.. give her tons of praise and attention right before you enter the room and continue talking to her and looking at her as you slowly close the door continue to tell her it's okay. if she starts to freak out give her a verbal correction by changing the tone of your voice and using sharp words like "AAH" or "hey" if that stops her reward her by opening the door and giving her lots of love and praise. if that doesn't work try getting her attention from under the door so she knows you aren't far. when she understands you are just an inch away she should calm down. if that doesn't work just stay in there until she stops making noise. then reward her. I keep saying praise and love but it really depends on the dog.. my dog is more motivated by food and chase but if you can use your attention as the reward then you'll always be able to give a reward. food and case are more circumstantial rewards. my friends pit bull was ignored a lot as a puppy so the best reward you can give him is letting him lick your face. or an old dog with dry itchy skin will probably be rewarded best with a scratch.. it all depends on the dog. good luck and I hope I could help!


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: UncleCid]
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Spiritwithin said:
Sorry for this, but I couldn't help myself...

This is how a happy dog looks:





those are some sweet pics! what kid of dog is that? I wanna say blue healer/pit but the face isn't quite right..
UncleCid said:
Haha I love when dogs sleep on their back. So funny. Great pic


truly a sign of a dog that is 100% comfortable in it's environment


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: tryptkaloids]
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It's just a mix and his parents are unknown. But he is loved wherever he goes...

I feel a bit bad about hijacking the thread by these pictures. But I wanted to bring the point across that a dog doesn't turn out like this if he spend his entire life in a crate.

This topic touches me at a sore point, because I am looking for work and nowhere I can bring him. We are inseperable and I intend to not break the promise I made to him by rescuing him from a shelter where he had otherwise been put to death.
The promise you make by taking a dog is: "You are now my dog. I will take good care of you."
If you hold up to your end, the animal will repay you 10-fold.

At least, that's my opinion. Even less ideal situations can be acceptable and compromises have to be made sometimes.

But working full-time, while your dog is alone at home locked up in crate for 10 hours straight everyday... Then you should have a reptile or a fish tank, or maybe even a cat, but not a dog!

Dogs are tough and they can handle a lot if they are used to it and their basic needs are met. But consider that OPs dog is still a puppy. It has so much to learn yet, it cannot be done in a crate.

OP: I'm not judging you. In fact I feel real concern by your inquiry. Please find a good solution for the both of you.



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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: sprinkles]
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sprinkles said:
it's fine as long as you meet its needs for excersize and attention every day when you get home.  What breed is it?


Would you feel fine locked in a crate all day?

No its not fine. You've captured and trapped an animal and then deprived it of the very thing that gives us the spirit to be alive - new experiences.

I spose its OK tho cuz its "just a dog" like you are "just a human"...


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: nice1returns]
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nice1returns said:
sprinkles said:
it's fine as long as you meet its needs for excersize and attention every day when you get home.  What breed is it?


Would you feel fine locked in a crate all day?

No its not fine. You've captured and trapped an animal and then deprived it of the very thing that gives us the spirit to be alive - new experiences.

I spose its OK tho cuz its "just a dog" like you are "just a human"...


I would lock you in a crate for a day or two at least


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: deucedbi9]
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A. You are stupid

B. I don't have neighbors.

C. She has a crate as well as her own room in the house.



This is my fucking dog

Shes always fucking happy

All the fucking time

So fuck you


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Edited by Skizor1337 (06/16/16 04:08 PM)

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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Skizor1337] * 1
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Skizor1337 said:
She's a goldendoodle



that's known as a mutt in the real world


it's also proof that a poodle will fuck anything and some fool will buy it


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: UncleCid]
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UncleCid said:
People keep dogs in a crate when their at work, then they take em out. It's not all day everyday. No dog owners do that



people have put children in a crate all day, every day, why wouldnt someone do it with a dog


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Skizor1337]
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Skizor1337 said:
A. You are stupid

B. I don't have neighbors.

C. She has a crate as well as her own room in the house.



This is my fucking dog

Shes always fucking happy

All the fucking time

So fuck you


Cute ass dog right there


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Skizor1337]
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Skizor1337 said:
I will be moving in 2 weeks to the next town over.
I currently work 8-5pm and leave by 7:20am to arrive a little early at work
Currently during my lunch break I go home and walk my dog.
She is 6 months old and I keep her in her crate while I’m gone.
I can’t trust that she will behave out of the crate while I’m gone because she has some destructive behavior when I even close the door to take a piss. She has separation anxiety for sure.

I don’t mind keeping her in the crate for 5 hours then coming back to work after lunch.

But the entire work day has me stressed out already.

My new problem is that I won’t be able to go home and make it back on time each day since I will live 10 minutes further away.
No family members live close by.
No friends live close by or have time to take my dog outside
I tried looking for a dog walker but have no luck every time.
I live in a decently small town to start so it’s not that easy.

Any advice?



I crated my dog for a few years, then I got another dog and crated them together in a bigger crate, then I tested the waters, they never tear anything up now. 

I have found that the maximum time a dog can be crated is 10-12 hours and that's really pushing it.....but you gotta think how many shelters are only open 9-5 and the dogs sit there all evening and night......and think about when you sleep 12 hours and that dog just chills at the foot of your bed or with you and doesn't need any food, water, or let out.


My dogs get free roam of a huge ass squat house, and a fenced in yard so they get a lot of activity.  I work a ten hour shift and they are uncrated and there is sometimes trash torn up cause my weim can turn doorknobs.....he's got it down to under a minute he can get almost any unlocked door open.  He just figured out the fridge after ten year last week so I had to get a lock.

I came home to the dame thing bloated and he had smashed a lb of butter, a jar of pickles, a bottle of ranch dressing, and a jar of salsa.....weird ass fucking dog....left the eggs and meat.

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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: thirtygoats]
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thirtygoats said:
You'll give your dog mental and health issues if you keep him locked up for long periods of time. Can't take care of a dog, lose the dog.


This.

Seriously if you are gonna cage up a dog all day long then give him/her to someone who can take care of it.

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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: ak47myth]
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There's just not enough dog owners and too many dogs.

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, and if it's a situation that's gonna improve, a crate is not gonna give it mental issues if it's crate trained.  Wolves and coyotes live in caves, and dens.  They feel safe in enclosed spaces.

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