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Leaving dog in crate while working full time
    #23350266 - 06/16/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I will be moving in 2 weeks to the next town over.
I currently work 8-5pm and leave by 7:20am to arrive a little early at work
Currently during my lunch break I go home and walk my dog.
She is 6 months old and I keep her in her crate while I’m gone.
I can’t trust that she will behave out of the crate while I’m gone because she has some destructive behavior when I even close the door to take a piss. She has separation anxiety for sure.

I don’t mind keeping her in the crate for 5 hours then coming back to work after lunch.

But the entire work day has me stressed out already.

My new problem is that I won’t be able to go home and make it back on time each day since I will live 10 minutes further away.
No family members live close by.
No friends live close by or have time to take my dog outside
I tried looking for a dog walker but have no luck every time.
I live in a decently small town to start so it’s not that easy.

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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Skizor1337] * 3
    #23350282 - 06/16/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

This is why I refuse to own a dog unless I have the space for it to roam or have a dog house. Your dog won't ever learn if it's kept in a crate, no time for it to grow out of the behaviour. You need a distraction, another animal or a game or a big smelly bone, something. That or you need to move. I know it's not easy  because I've been in this situation, but it's just unfair for the dog.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Skizor1337]
    #23350293 - 06/16/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

it's fine as long as you meet its needs for excersize and attention every day when you get home.  What breed is it?


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: sprinkles]
    #23350321 - 06/16/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

As a puppy I understand leaving them in the crate. Too much mischief for a little puppy to get into. It's sad but once they get older you'll be able to leave them out. Just as a puppy you kinda gotta do it

IDK ask your boss if you can have a few extra mins on your break so you can go let him out. It's worth asking at least


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23350325 - 06/16/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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This is why I refuse to own a dog unless I have the space for it to roam or have a dog house. Your dog won't ever learn if it's kept in a crate, no time for it to grow out of the behaviour. You need a distraction, another animal or a game or a big smelly bone, something. That or you need to move. I know it's not easy  because I've been in this situation, but it's just unfair for the dog.





It's a puppy though. He will learn. All the dogs I and my family has had, as puppies they stay in the crate. Once they learn how to be a bit more responsible you can let them out


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: sprinkles]
    #23350330 - 06/16/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

She's a goldendoodle


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #23350331 - 06/16/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Your dog won't ever learn if it's kept in a crate, no time for it to grow out of the behaviour.




My understanding is that not having the opportunity to act out some impulse tends to reinforce not doing it.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: psi]
    #23350342 - 06/16/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Puppies always get into so much mischeif, you really gotta watch em. My friend had a 3 month old yellow lab who got into the neighbors pool chemicals somehow and he died from it


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23350350 - 06/16/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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... it's just unfair for the dog.




Fuck the dog. It's unfair on your neighbours to keep a dog that has "separation anxiety" that does fuck all but bark from the minute you leave your house.

I have one barking it's fucking mouth off right now, because the idiot owner is out, and locks the cunting thing out in the back garden with no shelter at all,and, right now, we're having a thunder storm with pissing rain...you can imagine.

I was going to say that dipshit dog owning cunts should be strung up alonside their barky little bastard pets, but, I thought that might come across as a little bit harsh.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #23350373 - 06/16/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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This is why I refuse to own a dog unless I have the space for it to roam or have a dog house. Your dog won't ever learn if it's kept in a crate, no time for it to grow out of the behaviour. You need a distraction, another animal or a game or a big smelly bone, something. That or you need to move. I know it's not easy  because I've been in this situation, but it's just unfair for the dog.



Get it another dog companion to keep it company and keep away the lonely feeling when you're gone all day.
Grow it out of the 'cage' phase, can't learn right and wrong if you don't do wrong.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Tripping2Adventure]
    #23350458 - 06/16/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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This is why I refuse to own a dog unless I have the space for it to roam or have a dog house. Your dog won't ever learn if it's kept in a crate, no time for it to grow out of the behaviour. You need a distraction, another animal or a game or a big smelly bone, something. That or you need to move. I know it's not easy  because I've been in this situation, but it's just unfair for the dog.



Get it another dog companion to keep it company and keep away the lonely feeling when you're gone all day.
Grow it out of the 'cage' phase, can't learn right and wrong if you don't do wrong.





Haha that's what my parents do. They have 2 dogs at about the same age and they are straight homies. They def keep eachother company throughout the day. They probably play with eachother when were gone too because when we get home sometimes the place is a mess with dog toys everywhere


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: deucedbi9] * 4
    #23350480 - 06/16/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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... it's just unfair for the dog.




Fuck the dog. It's unfair on your neighbours to keep a dog that has "separation anxiety" that does fuck all but bark from the minute you leave your house.

I have one barking it's fucking mouth off right now, because the idiot owner is out, and locks the cunting thing out in the back garden with no shelter at all,and, right now, we're having a thunder storm with pissing rain...you can imagine.

I was going to say that dipshit dog owning cunts should be strung up alonside their barky little bastard pets, but, I thought that might come across as a little bit harsh.



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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #23350602 - 06/16/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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... it's just unfair for the dog.




Fuck the dog. It's unfair on your neighbours to keep a dog that has "separation anxiety" that does fuck all but bark from the minute you leave your house.

I have one barking it's fucking mouth off right now, because the idiot owner is out, and locks the cunting thing out in the back garden with no shelter at all,and, right now, we're having a thunder storm with pissing rain...you can imagine.

I was going to say that dipshit dog owning cunts should be strung up alonside their barky little bastard pets, but, I thought that might come across as a little bit harsh.



every post u make is a melt lol




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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23350620 - 06/16/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Your dogs will be fine just make sure if they are puppies to have puppy pads in thw cage with them and they dont eat the puppy pads...


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Skizor1337] * 1
    #23350624 - 06/16/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You'll give your dog mental and health issues if you keep him locked up for long periods of time. Can't take care of a dog, lose the dog.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23350628 - 06/16/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

My dog loves her crate. I put a blanket over the crate so she feels like she's hidden. She likes to be hidden like a snake. There's also a blanket in the crate that she wraps herself up in.

If you crate train a puppy early on and use the crate properly, not as a punishment, they love their crates, it's like their own room. My dog spends a ton of time in her box, I just leave it open all the time now and she comes and goes as she pleases.

When I moved into a new apartment with no other dogs to play with mine and no yard, I used the crate for a couple weeks. I asked the neighbors if they heard any ruckus from my place while I was gone. They said no, so I let her loose. She hasn't done anything but tear up tissues.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: thirtygoats]
    #23350630 - 06/16/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I know many people who leave their pups in crates ehike they are young and they are no dofferent than any other dog?


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: thirtygoats]
    #23350639 - 06/16/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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You'll give your dog mental and health issues if you keep him locked up for long periods of time. Can't take care of a dog, lose the dog.





It's completely normal to leave puppies in their crates while owners are at work. Just an FYI

It's not going to fuck the dog up in any kind of major way at all


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Supachopped719]
    #23350649 - 06/16/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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My dog loves her crate. I put a blanket over the crate so she feels like she's hidden. She likes to be hidden like a snake. There's also a blanket in the crate that she wraps herself up in.

If you crate train a puppy early on and use the crate properly, not as a punishment, they love their crates, it's like their own room. My dog spends a ton of time in her box, I just leave it open all the time now and she comes and goes as she pleases.

When I moved into a new apartment with no other dogs to play with mine and no yard, I used the crate for a couple weeks. I asked the neighbors if they heard any ruckus from my place while I was gone. They said no, so I let her loose. She hasn't done anything but tear up tissues.





Yeah my dauchshund loves her crate. We call it her "hotel" because she loves it so much. It's her safe space. She does the same thing too, we leave the crate open but she chooses to be in there whenever she wants to take a nap. She wraps herself up in her blanket in there and just passes out. If we can't find her we just check her crate and there she is


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23350664 - 06/16/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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... it's just unfair for the dog.




Fuck the dog. It's unfair on your neighbours to keep a dog that has "separation anxiety" that does fuck all but bark from the minute you leave your house.

I have one barking it's fucking mouth off right now, because the idiot owner is out, and locks the cunting thing out in the back garden with no shelter at all,and, right now, we're having a thunder storm with pissing rain...you can imagine.

I was going to say that dipshit dog owning cunts should be strung up alonside their barky little bastard pets, but, I thought that might come across as a little bit harsh.






this is absolutley true. 


Fuck all you people who havent had to deal with this situation.  I hope you are tested.

Goldendoodles are fucking dumb.  And have a high pitch bark.  If I lived next door I would probably blow my head off.  Or the dog would disappear one.  Prolly the latter.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: sprinkles]
    #23350683 - 06/16/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I hate people who have dogs more and more.


just yesterday these people came walking onto our property.  Just strolling around, their dog not on a leash.  If my dog had been here it would have ruined their day.  I'd be cleaning up that mans body parts and Id have to put my dog to sleep because of their fucking stupidity.  i would be sooooo pissed.


You need to protect idiots from your dog, and protect your dog from idiots.  I am a responsible pet owner.  Everyone who has a pet needs to make damn sure it does not intrude in others lives.  Period.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: sprinkles] * 2
    #23350694 - 06/16/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I hate people who have dogs more and more.


just yesterday these people came walking onto our property.  Just strolling around, their dog not on a leash.  If my dog had been here it would have ruined their day.  I'd be cleaning up that mans body parts and Id have to put my dog to sleep because of their fucking stupidity.  i would be sooooo pissed.


You need to protect idiots from your dog, and protect your dog from idiots.  I am a responsible pet owner.  Everyone who has a pet needs to make damn sure it does not intrude in others lives.  Period.





So what are you saying? Your dog would have attacked that guy or the other dog?

If so, you sound like the irresponsible pet owner. Dogs who act like that typically have really bad owners and it's all their fault


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    #23350705 - 06/16/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Skizor1337]
    #23350709 - 06/16/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I hate to say it, but for the dogs sake: Search out a new good home. You can't leave it in the crate all day. Not for the dog, not for you and not for the neighbours.
You will be glad you made that decision later even though it feels shitty now. It's still very young, it will adapt.
But keeping it in a crate all day, is not ok.
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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Spiritwithin]
    #23350718 - 06/16/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I hate to say it, but for the dogs sake: Search out a new good home. You can't leave it in the crate all day. Not for the dog, not for you and not for the neighbours.
You will be glad you made that decision later even though it feels shitty now. It's still very young, it will adapt.
But keeping it in a crate all day, is not ok.
Sorry.





People keep dogs in a crate when their at work, then they take em out. It's not all day everyday. No dog owners do that


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: UncleCid]
    #23350738 - 06/16/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

haha.  Yes absolutley.  My dog was bred for protecting our home and family.  He wants nothing more than an opportunity to do his job.  His dad is a police officer.  im sure you are familiar how shitty people dont him very much. Some even go as far as to make threats to harm family.  We never had to worry about people coming in our home.  Ever.


He is perfectly fine out and about in public, with children, men in uniforms, and any other animals.  he would have befriended the dog. He wanted to leave with a fish and game person a few weeks ago when we were at the river. 


not every fucking dog is friendly, people need to get that through their head.  Not all dogs want to be fucking petted either.  Would you want strangers touching you with their nasty fucking hands?  FUCK NO.
anyway i am sure you are one of those morons who thinks all dogs love them and pet strangers animals.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: UncleCid]
    #23350745 - 06/16/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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People keep dogs in a crate when their at work, then they take em out. It's not all day everyday. No dog owners do that




OP is away fulltime from 7:20 to at least 5 man... Thats 10 hours each day and that's too long, period. I don't care what other people do, it's not right.
Either he find's a sitter, a walker or a different job. Or gives the puppy another home. I see no alternatives.

Not only is it not right, but the dog will develop serious issues that will make everybody unhappy.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: sprinkles]
    #23350756 - 06/16/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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haha.  Yes absolutley.  My dog was bred for protecting our home and family.  He wants nothing more than an opportunity to do his job.  His dad is a police officer.  im sure you are familiar how shitty people dont him very much. Some even go as far as to make threats to harm family.  We never had to worry about people coming in our home.  Ever.


He is perfectly fine out and about in public, with children, men in uniforms, and any other animals.  he would have befriended the dog. He wanted to leave with a fish and game person a few weeks ago when we were at the river. 





Yeah your story doesn't quite add up but ok. That's cool. He looks like a happy doggy


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Spiritwithin]
    #23350765 - 06/16/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

pretty much everyone here is a fucking idiot so I am going to excuse myself and go about my day.  I have more important things to do waste time here trying to teach idiots life lessons who are likely too stupid to learn anyway.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: UncleCid]
    #23350770 - 06/16/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

he is happy. 


he wants you to look into his eyes and bend over... and stick your face into his face.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: sprinkles]
    #23350771 - 06/16/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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haha.  Yes absolutley.  My dog was bred for protecting our home and family.  He wants nothing more than an opportunity to do his job.  His dad is a police officer.  im sure you are familiar how shitty people dont him very much. Some even go as far as to make threats to harm family.  We never had to worry about people coming in our home.  Ever.


He is perfectly fine out and about in public, with children, men in uniforms, and any other animals.  he would have befriended the dog. He wanted to leave with a fish and game person a few weeks ago when we were at the river. 


not every fucking dog is friendly, people need to get that through their head.  Not all dogs want to be fucking petted either.  Would you want strangers touching you with their nasty fucking hands?  FUCK NO.
anyway i am sure you are one of those morons who thinks all dogs love them and pet strangers animals.





And as far as that last part goes, it really comes down to the owner and how it was brought up. I'm not going to lie, you seem like a shitty dog owner who's making all kinds of excuses for their dogs shitty behavior. Shitty dogs come from shitty owners. Genetics only matter so much when a dog is brought up in a good enviornment

Perfect example are pitbulls. They get a bad rap but every pit I've ever met has been such a nice happy doggy because they have good owners. You can't blame the breed on why it acts out aggressively. That is such a fucking cop out and a justification for you


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    #23350774 - 06/16/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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pretty much everyone here is a fucking idiot so I am going to excuse myself and go about my day.  I have more important things to do waste time here trying to teach idiots life lessons who are likely too stupid to learn anyway.





Why are you so angry? Because you're getting called out for being a shitty dog owner?


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    #23350779 - 06/16/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

every human being who owns a pitbull IS a fucking idiot.  There are no exceptions.



you are also an idiot.  an idiot who doesnt know anything about dogs. Period.  the end.


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    #23350784 - 06/16/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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every human being who owns a pitbull IS a fucking idiot.  There are no exceptions.



you are also an idiot.  an idiot who doesnt know anything about dogs. Period.  the end.





Why is that?


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    #23350797 - 06/16/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Honestly you seem like a very angry dude and I can see why your dog acts the way he does


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    #23350809 - 06/16/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

A lot of dogs kept in kennels throughout the day tend to overact when you get home, for good reason. It doesn't just reinforce bad behavior for the dog when you are home though, it also reinforces negative behaviors for the owner who keeps the dog in a kennel well into you being home to avoid the hyperactive behaviors in the dog.

I've never had any of my dogs in a kennel personally. I've never even owned a kennel or dog cage of any kind. Friends who have noticed this have tried keeping their dogs out of kennels too only to find that a lot of their fears of the dog going berserk when they aren't home are somewhat unfounded, only to start giving the dog more leg room when they are gone. If your dog is one to rip stuff up regardless, you could dog proof a few areas of your apartment to increase the amount of space it has to wander around during the day. That's a lot better.

Some dogs enjoy their kennels though, they use it as a safe space. I'm more referring to the kinds of owners that keep their dogs locked up for more than 4 or 5 hour periods per day (and often longer). Over a long course of time, you need to build a relationship with your dog at some point. First couple weeks of owning the dog maybe to test the waters, sure. Years down the road though? That's borderline neglectful, and traumatizing for the dog.

A lot of people get hyperactive dog breeds that don't fit the owner's lifestyles. Even lazy dogs need a lot of attention and outdoor exercise. People who get huskies or german shephards only to keep em bound up all day, or who only let them see the light of day through a fenced in back yard where they wallow in their shit all day are dumb as bricks. I fucking hate that shit. :shrug:

I take my dog out to the dog park every other day, and for a few long walks every day. That's the kind of shit dogs need. And my dog will never be as active as a lot of other breeds people get.


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    #23350826 - 06/16/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Honestly you seem like a very angry dude and I can see why your dog acts the way he does




And quite immature I might add. People like this are the reason dog owners have often such a bad immage... Yeah, he would have collected "body parts" of the street, WTF?, and would have been proud of it too...

For the lack of better words:  :poop:


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Haha dog park is so much fun. You just get to go play with a bunch of cool dogs. Sometimes there's like an asshole dog there who needs to go but their owner is too oblivious to it and you'll notice a lot of people start leaving. Hate that shit


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Honestly you seem like a very angry dude and I can see why your dog acts the way he does




And quite immature I might add. People like this are the reason dog owners have often such a bad immage... Yeah, he would have collected "body parts" of the street, WTF?, and would have been proud of it too...

For the lack of better words:  :poop:




Yeah I mean it's not acceptable to let your dog be like that. Dogs in our society are pets, not weapons. Buy a gun if you need protection so much

Sprinkles is like one of those parents who let their kids do anything then once they do something wrong their like "Oh yeah they do that". Like no it's your job to stop that shit. Because once it does bite someone, it gets put down. And your dog dies because you were a bad owner


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    #23350878 - 06/16/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

One of my biggest fears is that one day my angel of a dog, my truest and most loyal friend, will be killed by such an aggressive dog. Just because he wanted to play and sniff...
My dog knows no evil, he is curious and friendly to everyone and everydog.
He fills my life with joy and love only certain dog owners can ever understand this... and those are not the ones keeping their dogs in crates or kennels, or the ones having a weaponized dog.

Oh and by the way: I will stay unemployed for as long as I need to find a job where I can bring him or until he dies.


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    #23350882 - 06/16/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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One of my biggest fears is that one day my angel of a dog, my truest and most loyal friend, will be killed by such an aggressive dog. Just because he wanted to play and sniff...
My dog knows no evil, he is curious and friendly to everyone and everydog.
He fills my life with joy and love only certain dog owners can ever understand this... and those are not the ones keeping their dogs in crates or kennels, or the ones having a weaponized dog.





Without a doubt I'd fucking kill that dog. I love dogs but if someone or something goes after my dog, I'm fighting for that shit

My dog is the same way, just happy go lucky type dog. He just wants to play and be happy and lie in the sun or next to a fire


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    #23350915 - 06/16/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I hate to say it, but for the dogs sake: Search out a new good home. You can't leave it in the crate all day. Not for the dog, not for you and not for the neighbours.
You will be glad you made that decision later even though it feels shitty now. It's still very young, it will adapt.
But keeping it in a crate all day, is not ok.
Sorry.





People keep dogs in a crate when their at work, then they take em out. It's not all day everyday. No dog owners do that



you can't say that no dog owners do that... what you should have said is nobody who loves a dog does that


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every human being who owns a pitbull IS a fucking idiot.  There are no exceptions.



you are also an idiot.  an idiot who doesnt know anything about dogs. Period.  the end.



as a dog trainer I'd like to let you know that you sir are the least informed person here. pit bulls were bred as nanny dogs, they are excellent with child and home protection. I have met many many pit bulls from many many different owners and guess what? the only ones with any aggression were raised in a very stressful environment where their owner opened up room for violence in their relationship. if your dog would attack someone for getting in their face then your dog IS NOT KID FRIENDLY! KIDS GET CLOSE! you keep sounding more and more dumb


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    #23350979 - 06/16/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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One of my biggest fears is that one day my angel of a dog, my truest and most loyal friend, will be killed by such an aggressive dog. Just because he wanted to play and sniff...
My dog knows no evil, he is curious and friendly to everyone and everydog.
He fills my life with joy and love only certain dog owners can ever understand this... and those are not the ones keeping their dogs in crates or kennels, or the ones having a weaponized dog.

Oh and by the way: I will stay unemployed for as long as I need to find a job where I can bring him or until he dies.



I kind of agree, however,having a well trained attack dog can be very helpful. I would love to have a companion dog trained in protection someday but ofcourse it will be 100% by my will. I would never teach a dog in that way if I didn't have complete control over that dog.
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One of my biggest fears is that one day my angel of a dog, my truest and most loyal friend, will be killed by such an aggressive dog. Just because he wanted to play and sniff...
My dog knows no evil, he is curious and friendly to everyone and everydog.
He fills my life with joy and love only certain dog owners can ever understand this... and those are not the ones keeping their dogs in crates or kennels, or the ones having a weaponized dog.





Without a doubt I'd fucking kill that dog. I love dogs but if someone or something goes after my dog, I'm fighting for that shit

My dog is the same way, just happy go lucky type dog. He just wants to play and be happy and lie in the sun or next to a fire



YEP YEP YEP! I'm the same way. I have a tiny dog who tries to stand up for himself but big dogs shrug it off.. without a doubt though I would have no problem tackling and headlocking the shit out of a dog, maybe give it a few whacks on the head, kick to the ribs or SOMETHING no way in hell my dog is dying from something that only has teeth


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:scumbagman: sorry OP


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I hate to say it, but for the dogs sake: Search out a new good home. You can't leave it in the crate all day. Not for the dog, not for you and not for the neighbours.
You will be glad you made that decision later even though it feels shitty now. It's still very young, it will adapt.
But keeping it in a crate all day, is not ok.
Sorry.





People keep dogs in a crate when their at work, then they take em out. It's not all day everyday. No dog owners do that



you can't say that no dog owners do that... what you should have said is nobody who loves a dog does that





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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: UncleCid]
    #23351008 - 06/16/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry for this, but I couldn't help myself...

This is how a happy dog looks:




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    #23351011 - 06/16/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Haha I love when dogs sleep on their back. So funny. Great pic


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    #23351039 - 06/16/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

back on topic, I suggest trying without the crate for a bit. stay on a very consistent potty time make sure the dog gets plenty of food and water. maintain incredible exorcise and give the dog a bone or maybe set up a toy your dog can play with all day. like a bungee ball or something :shrug:  usually when a dog is misbehaving it is because he/she is trying to tell you something. the animal is often missing something from their life. sometimes if a dog has everything it needs it won't want to do anything. the main thing is keeping the dog comfortable.. if your dog has seperation anxiety then it's not too late to turn around. if the dog freaks out when you enter another room then I suggest baby steps.. give her tons of praise and attention right before you enter the room and continue talking to her and looking at her as you slowly close the door continue to tell her it's okay. if she starts to freak out give her a verbal correction by changing the tone of your voice and using sharp words like "AAH" or "hey" if that stops her reward her by opening the door and giving her lots of love and praise. if that doesn't work try getting her attention from under the door so she knows you aren't far. when she understands you are just an inch away she should calm down. if that doesn't work just stay in there until she stops making noise. then reward her. I keep saying praise and love but it really depends on the dog.. my dog is more motivated by food and chase but if you can use your attention as the reward then you'll always be able to give a reward. food and case are more circumstantial rewards. my friends pit bull was ignored a lot as a puppy so the best reward you can give him is letting him lick your face. or an old dog with dry itchy skin will probably be rewarded best with a scratch.. it all depends on the dog. good luck and I hope I could help!


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    #23351048 - 06/16/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Sorry for this, but I couldn't help myself...

This is how a happy dog looks:






those are some sweet pics! what kid of dog is that? I wanna say blue healer/pit but the face isn't quite right..
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Haha I love when dogs sleep on their back. So funny. Great pic



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    #23351155 - 06/16/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It's just a mix and his parents are unknown. But he is loved wherever he goes...

I feel a bit bad about hijacking the thread by these pictures. But I wanted to bring the point across that a dog doesn't turn out like this if he spend his entire life in a crate.

This topic touches me at a sore point, because I am looking for work and nowhere I can bring him. We are inseperable and I intend to not break the promise I made to him by rescuing him from a shelter where he had otherwise been put to death.
The promise you make by taking a dog is: "You are now my dog. I will take good care of you."
If you hold up to your end, the animal will repay you 10-fold.

At least, that's my opinion. Even less ideal situations can be acceptable and compromises have to be made sometimes.

But working full-time, while your dog is alone at home locked up in crate for 10 hours straight everyday... Then you should have a reptile or a fish tank, or maybe even a cat, but not a dog!

Dogs are tough and they can handle a lot if they are used to it and their basic needs are met. But consider that OPs dog is still a puppy. It has so much to learn yet, it cannot be done in a crate.

OP: I'm not judging you. In fact I feel real concern by your inquiry. Please find a good solution for the both of you.



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    #23351159 - 06/16/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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it's fine as long as you meet its needs for excersize and attention every day when you get home.  What breed is it?




Would you feel fine locked in a crate all day?

No its not fine. You've captured and trapped an animal and then deprived it of the very thing that gives us the spirit to be alive - new experiences.

I spose its OK tho cuz its "just a dog" like you are "just a human"...


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it's fine as long as you meet its needs for excersize and attention every day when you get home.  What breed is it?




Would you feel fine locked in a crate all day?

No its not fine. You've captured and trapped an animal and then deprived it of the very thing that gives us the spirit to be alive - new experiences.

I spose its OK tho cuz its "just a dog" like you are "just a human"...




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    #23351573 - 06/16/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

A. You are stupid

B. I don't have neighbors.

C. She has a crate as well as her own room in the house.



This is my fucking dog

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    #23353216 - 06/17/16 12:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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She's a goldendoodle





that's known as a mutt in the real world


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    #23353222 - 06/17/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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People keep dogs in a crate when their at work, then they take em out. It's not all day everyday. No dog owners do that





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A. You are stupid

B. I don't have neighbors.

C. She has a crate as well as her own room in the house.



This is my fucking dog

Shes always fucking happy

All the fucking time

So fuck you




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    #23353241 - 06/17/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I will be moving in 2 weeks to the next town over.
I currently work 8-5pm and leave by 7:20am to arrive a little early at work
Currently during my lunch break I go home and walk my dog.
She is 6 months old and I keep her in her crate while I’m gone.
I can’t trust that she will behave out of the crate while I’m gone because she has some destructive behavior when I even close the door to take a piss. She has separation anxiety for sure.

I don’t mind keeping her in the crate for 5 hours then coming back to work after lunch.

But the entire work day has me stressed out already.

My new problem is that I won’t be able to go home and make it back on time each day since I will live 10 minutes further away.
No family members live close by.
No friends live close by or have time to take my dog outside
I tried looking for a dog walker but have no luck every time.
I live in a decently small town to start so it’s not that easy.

Any advice?





I crated my dog for a few years, then I got another dog and crated them together in a bigger crate, then I tested the waters, they never tear anything up now. 

I have found that the maximum time a dog can be crated is 10-12 hours and that's really pushing it.....but you gotta think how many shelters are only open 9-5 and the dogs sit there all evening and night......and think about when you sleep 12 hours and that dog just chills at the foot of your bed or with you and doesn't need any food, water, or let out.


My dogs get free roam of a huge ass squat house, and a fenced in yard so they get a lot of activity.  I work a ten hour shift and they are uncrated and there is sometimes trash torn up cause my weim can turn doorknobs.....he's got it down to under a minute he can get almost any unlocked door open.  He just figured out the fridge after ten year last week so I had to get a lock.

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    #23353262 - 06/17/16 12:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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You'll give your dog mental and health issues if you keep him locked up for long periods of time. Can't take care of a dog, lose the dog.



This.

Seriously if you are gonna cage up a dog all day long then give him/her to someone who can take care of it.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: ak47myth]
    #23353266 - 06/17/16 01:00 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

There's just not enough dog owners and too many dogs.

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, and if it's a situation that's gonna improve, a crate is not gonna give it mental issues if it's crate trained.  Wolves and coyotes live in caves, and dens.  They feel safe in enclosed spaces.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: ak47myth]
    #23353268 - 06/17/16 01:00 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23353607 - 06/17/16 04:43 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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She's a goldendoodle





that's known as a mutt in the real world


it's also proof that a poodle will fuck anything and some fool will buy it





Poodle's don't shed. So lots of breeders are cross breeding poodles with breeds that do shed so hopefully they won't shed anymore

My old yellow lab used to shed so much. It was insane


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: UncleCid] * 1
    #23354147 - 06/17/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

and those breeders slap 'doodle' on the end of what ever they want and pretend
it's a real dog breed, for instance, this 'goldendoodle' or what ever it's called
is just a 'labradoodle' by another name, which ever genius had the idea to sell
mixed breeds for actual cash was brilliant


some of these mixes dont have the traits they were bred for, some arent
hypoallergenic and some shed just as any other dog would, this can happen
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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23354189 - 06/17/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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and those breeders slap 'doodle' on the end of what ever they want and pretend
it's a real dog breed, for instance, this 'goldendoodle' or what ever it's called
is just a 'labradoodle' by another name, which ever genius had the idea to sell
mixed breeds for actual cash was brilliant


some of these mixes dont have the traits they were bred for, some arent
hypoallergenic and some shed just as any other dog would, this can happen
even within the same litter





Well they do it for practical reasons. Like poodles don't shed and people like to mix poodles with dogs who do shed to try to stop it. Because having a dog that sheds a lot is a lot of extra cleaning up to do, every single day

I hear what you're saying but it's for good reasons. Not just so they can give it a silly name


One time we successfully mated a bulldog with a shih-tzu. We called it a bullshit


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: UncleCid] * 1
    #23354210 - 06/17/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

it's not difficult to understand that genetics in breeding is hit and miss, sure,
poodles dont typically shed but other dogs do, you mix a poodle and another dog
and you may or may not get a dog that doesnt shed.

if someone wants a dog that doesnt shed then maybe they should buy a poodle, want
a small dog, get a toy poodle, want a large dog, get a standard poodle




want your friends to stop calling you a sissy because you have a poodle...
teach it to bite their balls


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23354214 - 06/17/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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it's not difficult to understand that genetics in breeding is hit and miss, sure,
poodles dont typically shed but other dogs do, you mix a poodle and another dog
and you may or may not get a dog that doesnt shed.

if someone wants a dog that doesnt shed then maybe they should buy a poodle, want a small dog, get a toy poodle, want a large dog, get a standard poodle




want your friends to stop calling you a sissy because you have a poodle...
teach it to bite their balls





Yeah there is definitely no guarantee that it won't shed. For sure

And yeah me personally, I would never get a poodle. I think my friend has a Schnoodle. It's a Schnauser and a poodle mix. It's small but really fluffy. He got the dog for his gf a long time ago and she didn't want it so now it's his


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23354227 - 06/17/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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and those breeders slap 'doodle' on the end of what ever they want and pretend
it's a real dog breed, for instance, this 'goldendoodle' or what ever it's called
is just a 'labradoodle' by another name, which ever genius had the idea to sell
mixed breeds for actual cash was brilliant




I had a neighbour that owned a "labradoodle".
Thankfully the thing was too stupid to realise it could jump over our deviding wall.

I once had to enter the neighbours front yard, to give him a parcel that the postman had left with me.
The idiot dog acted like it was 'tigger', and, bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncied all the fuck over me.

Probably why the postman had left the fucking parcel with me in the first place.
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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: sprinkles]
    #23354505 - 06/17/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I hate people who have dogs more and more.


just yesterday these people came walking onto our property.  Just strolling around, their dog not on a leash.  If my dog had been here it would have ruined their day.  I'd be cleaning up that mans body parts and Id have to put my dog to sleep because of their fucking stupidity.  i would be sooooo pissed.


You need to protect idiots from your dog, and protect your dog from idiots.  I am a responsible pet owner.  Everyone who has a pet needs to make damn sure it does not intrude in others lives.  Period.



did you say something to them?


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23354512 - 06/17/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

That's shitty man.

Lucky for me I actually trained my dog.

She's a big sweetie. Smart as fuck and never barks unless told to "speak" haha

I'm just a caring dog owner that would love to quit my job and be in debt just to play with my dog every second of the day.

She likes to be curious so leaving her out of the crate would end in her finding anything to chew on since I wouldn't be there to stop her.

I actually just bought a bigger crate today and will pimp that shit out so she has a nicer "crib" to chill in while I'm gone.

I will be talking to my boss about maybe staying later for work to go see my dog during lunch since it will be 10 minutes longer each way.

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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23354554 - 06/17/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: berrymybody]
    #23357964 - 06/18/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

If you are intellectually stimulating your dog then she is way less likely to make trouble. If you are worried about her chewing your stuff up then hide the important stuff and give her a chew you and a bone. Prevention is the best way to assure the least destruction possible. A crate will get boring. Instead of spending,more money to lock your dog up how about spending a little time to assure your dog knows what it's allowed to chew on


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: UncleCid] * 2
    #23358003 - 06/18/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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And yeah me personally, I would never get a poodle. I think my friend has a Schnoodle. It's a Schnauser and a poodle mix. It's small but really fluffy. He got the dog for his gf a long time ago and she didn't want it so now it's his




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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #23358008 - 06/18/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I don't generally like the idea of my dogs being locked up for long periods of time on a daily basis. Occasionally would be okay but 5 days a week is not. I mean it's probably okay but it seems unfair. I take mine to my girlfriends families house everyday for her to play then pick her up and take her home with me when I get off work.


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Re: Leaving dog in crate while working full time [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23358012 - 06/18/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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and those breeders slap 'doodle' on the end of what ever they want and pretend
it's a real dog breed, for instance, this 'goldendoodle' or what ever it's called
is just a 'labradoodle' by another name, which ever genius had the idea to sell
mixed breeds for actual cash was brilliant




I had a neighbour that owned a "labradoodle".
Thankfully the thing was too stupid to realise it could jump over our deviding wall.

I once had to enter the neighbours front yard, to give him a parcel that the postman had left with me.
The idiot dog acted like it was 'tigger', and, bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncied all the fuck over me.

Probably why the postman had left the fucking parcel with me in the first place.
Like, here, you try your luck.





labradoodles are bred with the intent of getting the intelligence of a poodle
and the trainability of a lab, I'm guessing they didnt achieve that goal


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