viktor said:

The Ecstatic said:

Zappa still thinks theyve drank the same infallible potion that Reagan apparently drank.

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Zappa worships Jews. A Jew could piss in zappa's face and say it was raining and zappa would just say "Yes Master, thank you Master."

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zappaisgod said:

The Ecstatic said:

hostileuniverse said:

The Ecstatic said:

I appreciate your posts in this thread, despite the opposition being so silent.

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I think everyone here agrees Israel is the devil

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Not quite.

Zappa still thinks theyve drank the same infallible potion that Reagan apparently drank.

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I think they are decent people desperate to carve outtheir tiny little slice of a country against a vast horde of uncivilized monkey people.  Do you know who doesn't throw homosexuals off roofs?  Israelis.

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Tipote said:

carve a country inside someone else's by force you mean. 

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by dehumanising them, do you feel better/not at all about the vast numbers of civilian deaths?

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BTW there is plenty of homophobia in Israel

6 Stabbed at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade by ultra-Orthodox Jewish Assailant

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zappaisgod said:

Tipote said:

carve a country inside someone else's by force you mean. 

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How was it theirs?  The Arabs got the vast majority of the territory and the Jews got a tiny slice.

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a tiny slice of land they weren't entitled to and that was already inhabited by hundreds of thousands of natives, yes.

also it says a lot that you can only see the Arabs as just one group. If France was partitioned with foreigners getting more than half of the country, would you say "oh well europeans have the majority of Europe, the invaders just got a tiny slice"?


How is that different?

zappaisgod said:

Tipote said:

by dehumanising them, do you feel better/not at all about the vast numbers of civilian deaths?

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The civilians elected a terrorist organization as its government.

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Israelis and Americans elect terrorist governments too.
So is that a yes to my question then?

Hamas was democratically elected and so was Netanyahu. Both are terrorist but youre ok with the murder of civilians of only one country for the way they voted? Some of whom didn't at all.

That is called collective punishment and is a war crime.

zappaisgod said:

Tipote said:

BTW there is plenty of homophobia in Israel

6 Stabbed at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade by ultra-Orthodox Jewish Assailant

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One nut job who they arrested.  In Muslim countries being homosexual is a crime.  In Israel stabbing homosexuals is a crime.  Even stupid people can see the difference.

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its far from just one guy but yes Israel is better than most Arab countries on this front. I'm sure some Americans and israelis would want homosexuality illegal, they just don't get their way. Religion breeds intolerance whether its from Jews, Muslims or Christians.

akira_akuma said:

nope. only heard of it and maybe seen it in passing. is it accurate? it seems to have really good reviews.

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zappaisgod said:

viktor said:

The Ecstatic said:

Zappa still thinks theyve drank the same infallible potion that Reagan apparently drank.

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Zappa worships Jews. A Jew could piss in zappa's face and say it was raining and zappa would just say "Yes Master, thank you Master."

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No.  But I sure do love it when they kick muzzie ass.

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Tipote said:

zappaisgod said:

Tipote said:

carve a country inside someone else's by force you mean. 

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How was it theirs?  The Arabs got the vast majority of the territory and the Jews got a tiny slice.

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a tiny slice of land they weren't entitled to and that was already inhabited by hundreds of thousands of natives, yes.

Why weren't they entitled to it?  By the way, they didn't kick out the natives.
also it says a lot that you can only see the Arabs as just one group. If France was partitioned with foreigners getting more than half of the country, would you say "oh well europeans have the majority of Europe, the invaders just got a tiny slice"?


How is that different?

Clearly you are as ignorant of how the borders in Europe were drawn as you are about the middle east.  Ever hear of the Norman conquest of England? 

zappaisgod said:

Tipote said:

by dehumanising them, do you feel better/not at all about the vast numbers of civilian deaths?

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The civilians elected a terrorist organization as its government.

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Israelis and Americans elect terrorist governments too.

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The Ecstatic said:

zappaisgod said:

viktor said:

The Ecstatic said:

Zappa still thinks theyve drank the same infallible potion that Reagan apparently drank.

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Zappa worships Jews. A Jew could piss in zappa's face and say it was raining and zappa would just say "Yes Master, thank you Master."

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No.  But I sure do love it when they kick muzzie ass.

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Obama does more of that than Israel, when will you sing his praises and apply teflon to his reputation?

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zappaisgod said:

Tipote said:

a tiny slice of land they weren't entitled to and that was already inhabited by hundreds of thousands of natives, yes.

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Why weren't they entitled to it?  By the way, they didn't kick out the natives.

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They weren't entitled to partitioning land without the consent of the natives. The natives did not give consent and it was done anyway.

They didn't kick out the natives? Are you delusional, Zappa? Hundreds of thousands were expelled, you've even posted sources saying this before. There is a huge amount of evidence to show that Palestinians were forced out.

zappaisgod said:

Tipote said:

also it says a lot that you can only see the Arabs as just one group. If France was partitioned with foreigners getting more than half of the country, would you say "oh well europeans have the majority of Europe, the invaders just got a tiny slice"?

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Are you laughing at your own ridiculousness? The partition plan was concerning historic Palestine, NOT the entire middle east.

zappaisgod said:

Clearly you are as ignorant of how the borders in Europe were drawn as you are about the middle east.  Ever hear of the Norman conquest of England? 

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Of course I have. What is your point?

zappaisgod said:

Tipote said:

Israelis and Americans elect terrorist governments too.

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No they don't.  That's just stupid

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How is it stupid? What happens in Gaza is the definition of state terrorism.

zappaisgod said:

Tipote said:

So is that a yes to my question then?

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Defensive strikes against terrorists who attack without end is not terrorism.  Ignorant.

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Defensive strikes? Hamas has been ready for a long term ceasefire for years. Iron dome protects Israel from the rockets. Strikes in Gaza are not defensive. "defensive" bombing of civilians..
You are so far up the Hasbara bumhole its unreal.

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Further, if the people elect a terrorist group are they not equally guilty of terrorism?

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So much
This is the same stupid logic that islamic extremists will use to justify their attacks on american civilians, you use it to try to justify the killing of civilians in the Middle East. Did all Palestinians vote for Hamas? NO. Are civilians guilty of their governments policies? Are you guilty for your government's funding of death squads in South America and in Iraq? What about all the mutant babies in Iraq from US use of depleted uranium? What about Israeli use of white phosphorous? Is it ok to attack you? is it ok to attack Israeli civilians because of this?

zappaisgod said:

Tipote said:

That is called collective punishment and is a war crime.

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Bullshit.  Your cowards hide behind civilians.  They are committing the war crime.

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What hiding behind civilians? Can you show me a specific example that we can discuss?

Its a war crime to use civilians as human shields and it is a war crime to use collective punishment on a civilian population.

zappaisgod said:

Tipote said:

its far from just one guy but yes Israel is better than most Arab countries on this front. I'm sure some Americans and israelis would want homosexuality illegal, they just don't get their way. Religion breeds intolerance whether its from Jews, Muslims or Christians.

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Better than most Arab countries?  Are you fucking drunk?  The difference between a country that punishes homosexuals for being homosexual and a country that punishes those who punish homosexuals?  Why do support these misogynistic homophobic thugs?  Is it because you are one?

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There are christian countries that do this too incase you didn't realise. And also incase you didnt realise.. I said that religion breeds intolerance.. so what miogynistic homphobic thugs am I supporting?

zappaisgod said:

http://moonbattery.com/?p=72429

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Maybe what ValJar meant to say is that Obama put us on course to lose two wars that we were winning when he took office. But the wars are still ongoing, so it is premature to give him credit for actually having lost them.

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chopstick said:

Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak just said this about Netanyahu and the current Israeli government:

“Life-sustaining Zionism and the seeds of fascism cannot live together…What has happened is a hostile takeover of the Israeli government by dangerous elements. And it’s just the beginning.”

“This government needs to be brought down before it brings all of us down. There are no serious leaders left in the world who believe the Israeli government.”

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/05/25/former-israeli-prime-minister-ehud-barak-netanyahu-administration-needs-to-be-brought-down/#_ftn10

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This is perhaps my favorite Zionist quote:

“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force…. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.”

-Martin van Creveld, Israeli Military Historian

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fucking terrifying

For all the shit that America comes out with about Israel being the closest ally, I don't doubt that Israel would fuck over the entire Western world if it felt threatened. BDS might just isolate the Israeli fascists so much that they lash out.