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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: SirDabsAlot]
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:awehigh:

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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: SirDabsAlot]
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SirDabsAlot said:
You can legally shoot them right between the eyes if they dont have a warrant and you fear for your life.


SirDabsAlot said:
Well i thought you were an invader trying to rape me officer so sorry youre dead.


:no:

If they want a warrant the police will get one.

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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: 2shoes]
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Cops can do whatever the fuck they want. Go ahead and arhue with them, see how it goes. We'll all be here having the same discussion we always do once it does.


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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
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LuSiD enthusiast said:
Cops can do whatever the fuck they want. Go ahead and argue with them, see how it goes. We'll all be here having the same discussion we always do once it does.


Yup

Don't listen to all these druggie gun rights nutjobs. The cops can murder innocent people and get away with it for christ's sake, you really think they can't poke around your yard if they think you're growing weed?


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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
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Not allowed by me... But cops can and do allow themselves to do whatever they way.  They will lie, cheat and steal in order to throw you in a cage.

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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: DieCommie]
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I think if they are the feds they don't need a warrant under certain circumstance.


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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: chiefin123]
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You don't have to be a fed to have probable cause.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: JonBongGroovy]
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GetFuckingWierd said:
If they were perusing somebody they can.


All a cop has to do is say they were pursuing someone or looking for a lost child, etc...  They can even enter your home or out-buildings (such as a storage barn) using the same excuse... After that they just claim everything else is in 'plain sight'.

One way to work around the problem is to put a padlock on the OUTSIDE of your doors when you are not using them.  When there is a padlock they cannot claim that an 'intruder' locked the door from in inside.  This is a definately the way to go on sheds, etc...


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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: Joe_C]
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Joe_C said:
GetFuckingWierd said:
If they were perusing somebody they can.


All a cop has to do is say they were pursuing someone or looking for a lost child, etc...  They can even enter your home or out-buildings (such as a storage barn) using the same excuse... After that they just claim everything else is in 'plain sight'.

One way to work around the problem is to put a padlock on the OUTSIDE of your doors when you are not using them.  When there is a padlock they cannot claim that an 'intruder' locked the door from in inside.  This is a definately the way to go on sheds, etc...


so you enter your home, climb out the window to apply a padlock and then climb
back into the window... I would think that would make a cop even more suspicious
because he then sees what looks to be a crime being committed, that gives him
probable cause and he can bust down the door and arrest you for burglary

somehow or another this plan of yours seems less than fool proof


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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Joe_C said:
GetFuckingWierd said:
If they were perusing somebody they can.


All a cop has to do is say they were pursuing someone or looking for a lost child, etc...  They can even enter your home or out-buildings (such as a storage barn) using the same excuse... After that they just claim everything else is in 'plain sight'.

One way to work around the problem is to put a padlock on the OUTSIDE of your doors when you are not using them.  When there is a padlock they cannot claim that an 'intruder' locked the door from in inside.  This is a definately the way to go on sheds, etc...


so you enter your home, climb out the window to apply a padlock and then climb
back into the window... I would think that would make a cop even more suspicious
because he then sees what looks to be a crime being committed, that gives him
probable cause and he can bust down the door and arrest you for burglary

somehow or another this plan of yours seems less than fool proof



No, you just lock it when you leave or walk outside when the cops knock. Like the post i made where the cops decided they had probable cause to enter my home without a warrant. Had i locked my door behind me they would have left. I doubt anyone can get through the doors in my house. Who said anything about crawling out a window?

:canthelpbutlaugh:


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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
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We live in a police state now (for people who didn't notice with all the negative attention cops have been getting in the media). So yah, cops can NOW do whatever the fuck they want. It's best to just be polite to them and comply with them. Don't be an asshole or they WILL do something they shouldn't do. I avoid cops at all cost.

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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
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RanOutOfWeed said:
No, you just lock it when you leave or walk outside when the cops knock. Like the post i made where the cops decided they had probable cause to enter my home without a warrant. Had i locked my door behind me they would have left. I doubt anyone can get through the doors in my house. Who said anything about crawling out a window?

:canthelpbutlaugh:



if they have probable cause then they dont need a warrant and a lock wont stop them


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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Seems they can just claim probable cause for anything that pops in their head.

"oh i saw a shadow inside, PROBABLE CAUSE!"

"I smell weed, PROBABLE CAUSE!"

etc

Really need strict laws for it


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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Yeah... I realize the outside padlock may seem like a lame idea at first.  I know for FACT it works though.  I never even thought of the window bit (that would just be weird). 

The street I live on is backed up to the woods.  I would say about once a year the cops get spotted checking backyards and sheds for 'suspicious individuals' they've allegedly chased.  Provided that lock is only accessible from the outside they cannot ever claim someone was hiding in my shed...

Just my 2 cents.


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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: Joe_C]
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I'd be more comfortable with suspicious individuals in my backyard than cops. That's creepy as shit.


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Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists.

I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke.


In erowid we trust.

Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.

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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
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RanOutOfWeed said:
Can cops walk around your property without a warrant? Not inside your house obviously

What if a cop were to walk on your property and find weed growing?



Cops can walk on your property and in your house without a warrant if they want.

A good example: they are on a manhunt.


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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
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Cops can do whatever they want. How do you not know this?


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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: trees]
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trees said:
Cops can do whatever they want. How do you not know this?


I already said this, and op just doesn't get it. Like what are you gonna do when a cop tells you to bend over? Resist arrest? Speak out for yourself? Doesn't really work out to well.

I was talking to a friend once and he was going on about how if he drove fine there was no way he would get pulled over. I ask him "what are you gonna do when hes behind you flashing lights? Keep driving? You'll be resisting arrest then and he has every right now to pull you over."

Idk I'm terrified of cops, but i don't let it effect me other than being nervous around them. I figure if cops really want to arrest someone, they will. End of story.


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I'm addicted to coke, weed, booze, ludes and speed.
Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists.

I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke.


In erowid we trust.

Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.

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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
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RanOutOfWeed said:
Seems they can just claim probable cause for anything that pops in their head.

"oh i saw a shadow inside, PROBABLE CAUSE!"

"I smell weed, PROBABLE CAUSE!"

etc

Really need strict laws for it


Lots of misinformation in this thread.

Cops cannot enter the "curtilage" of the property without a warrant, generally.  Exceptions apply such as hot pursuit/exigent circumstances, etc.

The curtilage is the part of the property that is intentionally blocked from the public.  The back yard, for instance.  A portion of the front yard that is fenced, etc...

Probable cause is not enough for officers to search or enter the curtilage.  They need a warrant for that.  Probable cause is, however, enough to get a warrant.


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Re: Are Cops Allowed On Your Property Without A Warrant? [Re: Enlil]
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eh, good question. I've been to enough parties where the cops came to know that they'll definitely pop in with no second thought, but all they've ever done at the ones I've been to was ID one person who lived in the house and tell everyone to not drink outside - once there was a fist fight that happened and some asshole got kicked out, but there was a smashed car window, there was blood on another guy's shirt, and about 50 people rolling their balls off and all they did was ask what happened and then went to go find the guy that got kicked out of the party and smashed the car window because he started walking down the road.

Another time I was at a big ass party in a quiet area, and they stopped by when they noticed that a lot of people were starting to show up and just told the home owners to make sure no one under 21 was there and basically "checked in" with them and then left it alone the rest of the night. Generally cops here don't give a fuck as long as it's a bunch of white people and no one is obviously like 16 years old.

I think that they can and will go on private property without warrants, and that they're legally able to if there's probable cause, but they can't search without a warrant.

of course, warrantless searches definitely happen and it sux dik, but the best you can do is know your rights...which I should probably work on haha.


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