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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Chamber of Commerce.


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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: zappaisgod]
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Look at all these idiots!

https://news.vice.com/article/unauthorized-immigrants-paid-100-billion-into-social-security-over-last-decade


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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: imachavel]
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OP,

*laziness

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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Look at all these idiots!

https://news.vice.com/article/unauthorized-immigrants-paid-100-billion-into-social-security-over-last-decade


They aren't paying shit and in order for them to pay anything in they would have to steal somebody's soc sec number and Identity.  They cost far more than that even if it was true.  Do you know how they get paid around here?  Cash only.  How much in taxes do you thnk those guys are paying?  Then they use our schools our hospitals and our roads.  Then there is the fact that they are extremely low wage workers who pay exactly zero in income tax even if they stole somebody's identity.  Get the fuck out of here with your bullshit.


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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Look at all these idiots!

https://news.vice.com/article/unauthorized-immigrants-paid-100-billion-into-social-security-over-last-decade


"using fake or expired social security numbers...demonstrate their employment eligibility with fake IDs and fake social security numbers"

Look at these illegal aliens commit more crime!

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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: PeterGriffin467]
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PeterGriffin467 said:
Ive never agreed with pris on anything before but I have to agree with him about welfare people being lazy.  I have a "friend" who convinced his mother to take him to multiple court hearings to fake that he is disabled and cant work just so he can get a government check every month and not work. On top of that she shopped him around to every pain doctor she could in our state claiming he had this fake illness just so he could get prescribed pain meds to shoot up.  None of the doctors would do that so she took him out of state until they found one to give him all the dope he wants.  Now he sits at home in a house and shoots dope all day long and collects all his money from those of us who pay taxes.  That right there is most welfare recipients, sorry to burst anyones bubble and if your own welfare and this offends you take  good look in the fucking mirror cuz your doing the same thing.  Fuck non working lazy slugs that get everything handed to them


Damn I wish I was as smart as these people.

Instead i've joined the ranks of my fellow idiots and do menial work for crappay.

You guys enjoy working ? freaks.

Edited by Beanhead (08/13/15 11:28 AM)

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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: Beanhead]
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When I entered the work force I did menial work for crap pay.  That is how I learned my craft, became self employed by 28, became a master carpenter and construction manager and made a buncha money.  If you do not improve your skills or grow some balls you will stay a menial shmuck.


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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: Beanhead]
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im going to college so i can do 3 years of work in one and have my hair blown out by 45


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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: qman]
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
Look at all these idiots!

https://news.vice.com/article/unauthorized-immigrants-paid-100-billion-into-social-security-over-last-decade


"using fake or expired social security numbers...demonstrate their employment eligibility with fake IDs and fake social security numbers"

Look at these illegal aliens commit more crime!


Thus "idiots."


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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
When I entered the work force I did menial work for crap pay.  That is how I learned my craft, became self employed by 28, became a master carpenter and construction manager and made a buncha money.  If you do not improve your skills or grow some balls you will stay a menial shmuck.


But I think you must have had the intelligence/brain in order to do that (became a master carpenter).  But what about someone who is naturally not very bright?  They don't have what it takes to start a company, so they have to work for someone.  They can't help being dumb, it's not their own fault.  Should these people struggle financially?  Should they not be allowed to raise a family and get paid enough to raise their child/children?

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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: WAN]
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If you aren't that bright you can still get better at your trade through repititon and hard work.  No, morons should not have children that the rest of us have to pay for.


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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: zappaisgod]
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i'd probably have a house by now if I had a kid and worked at miccyDee's my entire life


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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: WAN]
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WAN said:
But what about someone who is naturally not very bright?  They don't have what it takes to start a company, so they have to work for someone.  They can't help being dumb, it's not their own fault. Should these people struggle financially?


Yes. Unless others volunteer to help.


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  Should they not be allowed to raise a family and get paid enough to raise their child/children?


No. Stupid people shouldn't be allowed to procreate.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
WAN said:
But what about someone who is naturally not very bright?  They don't have what it takes to start a company, so they have to work for someone.  They can't help being dumb, it's not their own fault. Should these people struggle financially?


Yes. Unless others volunteer to help.


You don't think we should take care of those of our countrymen who are the most helpless?

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  Should they not be allowed to raise a family and get paid enough to raise their child/children?


No. Stupid people shouldn't be allowed to procreate.


Sounds like social darwinism.

Also, do you realize that if we did do this (referring to your idea of ridding our societies of "stupid people"), there would still be people on the bottom rungs?  There will always be people who are dumber.  They might be less dumb than the previous generations (owing to your excellent idea of "culling the herd") but they will still be relatively dumber than others.  And these people would face the same fate.

Edited by WAN (08/13/15 01:43 PM)

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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said:
i'd probably have a house by now if I had a kid and worked at miccyDee's my entire life


No.


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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
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zappaisgod said:
If you aren't that bright you can still get better at your trade through repititon and hard work.  No, morons should not have children that the rest of us have to pay for.


What should we do about morons having kids?

Don't tell me the proud soaring eagle of freedom is a eugenics fan.


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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: zappaisgod]
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Its interesting to talk about not letting stupid people breed but the libs will tell us its racist so it won't fly for that and other reasons. But should we give everyone enough money to live well? That is the real question, not enough to "live" on because people demand not just food and shelter but many luxuries too.

Up until a few generations ago no one had air conditioning. I remember living without it. Until a generation ago no one had a cell phone, now its a necessity if you want to believe it. Cigarettes are not required and are harmful but poor people smoke like chimneys. Should we subsidize that? They should be required to take drug tests to get welfare and no drugs allowed including tobacco and alcohol. If they have money for those things they don't need our money.


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
zappaisgod said:
If you aren't that bright you can still get better at your trade through repititon and hard work.  No, morons should not have children that the rest of us have to pay for.


What should we do about morons having kids?

Don't tell me the proud soaring eagle of freedom is a eugenics fan.


Hey!  Aint nothing wrong with eugenics, mmmkay?

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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: WAN]
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zappaisgod said:
When I entered the work force I did menial work for crap pay.  That is how I learned my craft, became self employed by 28, became a master carpenter and construction manager and made a buncha money.  If you do not improve your skills or grow some balls you will stay a menial shmuck.


thanks zappa

Eugenics for life. (topkek)

Edited by Beanhead (08/13/15 02:13 PM)

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Re: punishment for hard work and welfare as a reward for lazyness [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
zappaisgod said:
If you aren't that bright you can still get better at your trade through repititon and hard work.  No, morons should not have children that the rest of us have to pay for.


What should we do about morons having kids?



Take away the incentives for having them, no welfare, food stamps, public housing, health care, ect.

What do you think our grandparents did when they didn't have the safety nets of today?  They didn't act like the shitheads we have today.

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