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Re: Do you believe in corporal punishment for children? [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #5603189 - 05/08/06 01:11 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

kids dont learn from pain all the time, please...there is another way, especially when your kid calls the cops on your ass for doing that. hello?


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Re: Do you believe in corporal punishment for children? [Re: Crackalack]
    #5603215 - 05/08/06 01:17 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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My dad was a drunk and used to beat my ass. One of the memories from my early child hood was getting kicked down a hallway when I was 6 or some shit. Alltogether that shit is fucked up.


very fucked up.  :confused:


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Re: Do you believe in corporal punishment for children? [Re: Skunk420]
    #5603220 - 05/08/06 01:18 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

They cry in the dark, so you can’t see their tears
They hide in the light, so you can’t see their fears
Forgive and forget, all the while
Love and pain become one and the same
In the eyes of a wounded child
Because hell
Hell is for children

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Re: Do you believe in corporal punishment for children? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5603230 - 05/08/06 01:20 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

fuck that! hell is for adults, they have to deal with the children anyway.


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Re: Do you believe in corporal punishment for children? [Re: Skunk420]
    #5604040 - 05/08/06 07:12 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

For those people who think," Beating a kids ass"

is a good thing. Please go get a dog from the pound

before you have a child., try that 1st.

FREAK


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Re: Do you believe in corporal punishment for children? [Re: alsnow469]
    #5604205 - 05/08/06 10:22 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Bring your kids to my house and I'll whip their ass for you.


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Re: Do you believe in corporal punishment for children? [Re: tomk]
    #5604332 - 05/08/06 11:32 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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tomk said:
OK. Here is the rule. Don't hit kids.

Ever. For any reason.

First of all, unless you have a huge amount of self control, you could lose your temper at some point and hurt the kid. Better to not take the chance. If hitting kids is something you do to control them, pretty soon it becomes you hit them when they start to bother you. This quickly can descend into abuse. You are arrogant if you think you can control it. There is a chance you can't. Maybe one day work goes really bad and you come home pissed off and your kid says something that hits a nerve from what happened at work. If you are used to hitting your kids, you're going to scare the shit out of them.......

Third, all of you who advocate child abuse to control children, and say the discipline you got as a child didn't hurt you, look at yourselves. You think hitting kids is OK! You have to be pretty fucked up to see some kid misbehaving and think "What that kid really needs is to be hit."

Do not hit kids. Ever.





You must have been abused as a child.









Your confusing a spanking with a beating.
There is a HUGE difference in the two.

When done properly, spanking only happens 4-5 times in the childs whole life.

If you spank your kids, when they are young, for doing bad or dangerous things. Then the child learns that there are consequences to his actions.

This is key in learning how to live in our society.......suffering consequences.

Using a rolled up news paper, magazine or an open palm to get your kids attention when they walk away, roll their eyes, stick their tounge out at you etc......does no physical nor psychological harm to the child, it just lets the child know that he just crossed a line he shouldn't have crossed.


If a child does something dangerous ie, tries to stick his finger in a light socket, grab a knife or step off a porch then a quick grabbing and scoldong and a possible slap on the hand or leg to get his attention is perfectly fine.

These are all forms of disipline for a person(child) who has no concept of social/physical dangers yet. It is your responsibility, as his parent, to teach him not to pop his mouth off to a much larger person or to stay away from things that may harm him.

The quickest way to teach these lessons is with a "reality check"......slap.....hello you just did something you shouldnt do. Next time they will think before they speak or do something risky.

Once you have established some basic ground rules of what you will and will not toletate. Spanking is no longer needed.......only the threat of a spanking will do the trick.











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Juan_del_Pueblo said:
How do you get your kidz to respect you? You talk to them, ya sure for how long? Your gunna get rolling eyes, turning backs and lotz of other fun stuff. Smack the fker in the head, NOW you got their attention.




A good strategy to be respected by your kids: don't be an asshole.






The only way to teach them how to not be an asshole is to let them know that they were being rude by "rolling eyes, turning backs and lotz of other fun stuff".

If they are allowed to act this way to their parents.......just think how much they would disrespect other people.




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For those people who think," Beating a kids ass"

is a good thing. Please go get a dog from the pound

before you have a child., try that 1st.







Spanking works on puppys too. Rolled up newspaper or magazine works wonders for keeping dogs in line.

If my puppy is bothering company all I have to do is give them the rolled up paper and they are left alone.

I have only used the paper 3-5 times. Now it is a symbol of obedience/mindfullness.



Im seeing many people confusing a disiplinary spanking with a beating due to anger management problems.


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Re: Do you believe in corporal punishment for children? [Re: alsnow469]
    #5604759 - 05/08/06 02:06 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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alsnow469 said:
For those people who think," Beating a kids ass"

is a good thing. Please go get a dog from the pound

before you have a child., try that 1st.

FREAK



Indeed. And when I had a dog, there were times when it was appropriate to hit him on the nose with a rolled up newspaper. Just as with spanking a child, it is something that should only be used to teach, never out of anger.


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Re: Do you believe in corporal punishment for children? [Re: alsnow469]
    #5604862 - 05/08/06 02:30 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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alsnow469 said:
For those people who think," Beating a kids ass"

is a good thing. Please go get a dog from the pound

before you have a child., try that 1st.

FREAK




http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/afternoon/article.aspx?storyid=30181

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