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Kurds found Saddam, not US
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Yet another lie by the Bush administration and their public relations team, aka the media.

Story

Saddam was held by Kurdish forces, drugged and left for US troops

Sat Dec 20,11:00 PM ET


LONDON, (AFP) - Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) was captured by US troops only after he had been taken prisoner by Kurdish forces, drugged and abandoned ready for American soldiers to recover him, a British Sunday newspaper said


Saddam came into the hands of the Kurdish Patriotic Front after being betrayed to the group by a member of the al-Jabour tribe, whose daughter had been raped by Saddam's son Uday, leading to a blood feud, reported the Sunday Express, which quoted an unnamed senior British military intelligence officer.

The newspaper said the full story of events leading up to the ousted Iraqi president's capture on December 13 near his hometown of Tikrit in northern Iraq (news - web sites), "exposes the version peddled by American spin doctors as incomplete".

A former Iraqi intelligence officer, whom the Express did not name, told the paper that Saddam was held prisoner by a leader of the Kurdish Patriotic Front, which fought alongside US forces during the Iraq war, until he negotiated a deal.

The deal apparently involved the group gaining political advantage in the region.

An unnamed Western intelligence source in the Middle East told the Express: "Saddam was not captured as a result of any American or British intelligence. We knew that someone would eventually take their revenge, it was just a matter of time."




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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Learyfan]
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Interesting if it's true.


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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Learyfan]
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I have no way of knowing which version of the story is true.

Funny you'd just assume the story you posted is correct.

Can we say preconceived notion?


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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Learyfan]
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It's certainly interesting. Apparently there's a conspiracy theory going around based on this picture at the moment.



There's an article saying that dates ripen (and turn yellow) in August, not December. They think that the pic showing Saddam's hole was taken months ago.


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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.

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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Learyfan]
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interesting. any other links?

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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Edame]
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hm.

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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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What, Yahoo isn't reputable enough for you? Here's another, but i'm not sure how reliable it is...



Saddam captured by Kurds







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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Learyfan]
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It's definately plausible,but like Luv said,why do you automatically assume this version is true?


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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: monoamine]
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why do you automatically assume Fox News' version is true?


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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: monoamine]
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Yeah, why would I doubt George Bush?

What was I thinking?





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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: afoaf]
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Fox news is a more reliable source than an "unnamed british newspaper."


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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Learyfan]
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"A former Iraqi intelligence officer, whom the Express did not name, told the paper that Saddam was held prisoner by a leader of the Kurdish Patriotic Front,"

As we all know, former Iraqi intelligence officers never lie.


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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Still more credible than Bush




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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Learyfan]
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Apparently Bush is more credible than Learyfan.


At least you're open about your non-credibility.  :laugh:


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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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I am not open about my non-crediblity. Wait.....





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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Hmmm. The Express? Isn't that one of those cheesy Brit tabloid scandal rags? Perhaps some of our frequent posters from the UK could give us an opinion of the quality of current affairs reporting normally found in The Express.

On the other hand, Scrappleface (motto: "News fairly unbalanced. We report. You decipher) has this to say --


Kurds Lead Way to Spider Hole, Bush Re-Election

(2003-12-21) -- Kurds lead the way to Saddam Hussein's 'spider hole' on December 13, as part of U.S. President George Bush's intricate plan to recapture the White House in 2004. The top-secret Bush plot was dubbed Operation Muffet.

The involvement of forces from the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) was revealed by Britain's Sunday Express this morning, but the underlying motives of the Bush administration emerged only from an off-the-record interview with a senior Democrat presidential campaign official.

"[Ambassador] Paul Bremer said 'We got him' but it was really the Kurds who got Saddam," said an unnamed senior aide to presidential hopeful Howard Dean. "It's all part of [White House political advisor] Karl Rove's ingenious plan to get Bush re-elected. Part of the strategy is to continually make false claims that can be easily refuted by eyewitnesses."

The source said it's unclear how the Rove plan could result in a second Bush term, but he added that "Karl is a monolithic mastermind."

"One theory that's out there," said the Dean aide, "Is that the PUK is really the vanguard of the Bush re-election campaign. They're channeling money from Kurdish villages to Bush 2004. They lead U.S. troops to the spider hole, and they're leading Bush to a second term. Of course, that can't be proved. But the theory is out there."

http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/001441.html

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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Phred]
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So Scrapple is the new Onion?




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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Learyfan]
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Waitaminnit.

How exactly does this contradict the previous version of "the story"?


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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Huh?




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Re: Kurds found Saddam, not US [Re: Learyfan]
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My reccolection of "the story" was that some Iraqi's led them to where Saddam was.


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