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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: Stonehenge] * 5
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Stonehenge, just admit you are wrong and shut up.

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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: Hellogoodbyedeath]
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You people have been fooled once again by zappa's blabber.

zap
>The man is an asshole and a selfish idiot stealing water from downstream people.

He is not blocking any streams and you have presented no evidence to the contrary.

Your quote does not contradict that though you did snow a few readers.

"Riparian right, in property law, doctrine pertaining to properties adjacent to a waterway that (a) governs the use of surface water and (b) gives all owners of land contiguous to streams, lakes, and ponds equal rights to the water, whether the right is exercised or not. The riparian right is usufructuary, meaning that the landowner does not own the water itself but instead enjoys a right to use the water"

There was no stream or river running through his property that he dammed. Show evidence that he did or stfu!


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
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Harrington admitted it

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Harrington, however, argued in court that that he is not diverting water from Big Butte Creek, but the dams capturing the rainwater and snow runoff – or “diffused water” – are on his own property and that therefore the runoff does not fall under the jurisdiction of the state water managers, nor does it not violate the 1925 act.


Are you dyslexic?


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: zappaisgod]
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what does liberal even mean? all i see them doing in Canada is wasting money.

PS: John Locke was clearly a dick though!
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You people have been fooled once again by zappa's blabber.


LOL :rofl2: really now? so we're all such fools for not listening to ... you. give me a break. :yesnod:

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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: zappaisgod]
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Are you retarded?

Its says nothing about blocking any river or stream, as you alleged. It figures you would be in favor of big govt telling us we can't water plants with rain that falls on our own property. Is there any big govt regulation you are not in favor of?


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: akira_akuma]
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its possible harrington mispoke and accidently called them a dam, if you take that one word out, it looks like he's trying to explain he's only collecting rainwater, and trying to say he wasn't diverting water from the creek.  i dunno do we know where this dude lives? google earth has old photo's i bet we could see his actual dam's and settle this shit with our own eyes not misleading interviews and subjective quotes


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: makaveli8x8]
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Good point, maka. You can build all the dams you wish as long as you don't block or divert a river from its natural flow downstream. I'm glad a few people see through zappa's smoke screen.


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
Are you retarded?

Its says nothing about blocking any river or stream, as you alleged. It figures you would be in favor of big govt telling us we can't water plants with rain that falls on our own property. Is there any big govt regulation you are not in favor of?


I ask again.  Are you dyslexic?  I have twice quoted the passage from the article I found that you refused to link for your copy paste wherein he admits to damming a stream on his property.  I didn't allege anything.  Harrington admitted it in court.

Some people are honest and some people are liars.  Some people are intelligent and some people are stupid.  Some people are assholes and some people are nice guys.  One of the people involved in this discussion is a stupid lying asshole.  Another one is an intelligent honest.............asshole.  Should we take a poll, Helmut?


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: Stonehenge]
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no im not taking sides, i could see this going either way


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: makaveli8x8]
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makaveli8x8 said:
its possible harrington mispoke and accidently called them a dam, if you take that one word out, it looks like he's trying to explain he's only collecting rainwater, and trying to say he wasn't diverting water from the creek.  i dunno do we know where this dude lives? google earth has old photo's i bet we could see his actual dam's and settle this shit with our own eyes not misleading interviews and subjective quotes


Court testimony is court testimony.  It was what his lawyers argued in court.  He wasn't standing there like a deer in the headlights facing a news crew.  It was court testimony, well deliberated long before unveiling.


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: zappaisgod]
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you're so liberal zappa.

I checked more news stories, he was damning up tributaries.  Also his ponds had 13 million gallons of water, and 1 20ft high damn.  And that was after going to court 11 years ago  and was told to knock it off.

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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: teamkiller]
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lol this is one of his "rainwater" collections:




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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: zappaisgod]
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> I have twice quoted the passage from the article I found that you refused to link for your copy paste wherein he admits to damming a stream on his property.  I didn't allege anything.  Harrington admitted it in court

He admitted building a dam, not blocking any river.

>One of the people involved in this discussion is a stupid lying asshole

They say confession is good for the soul. Don't you feel better now?

team
>I checked more news stories, he was damning up tributaries

That could be but I would want more than some journalists scribblings.

>Also his ponds had 13 million gallons of water, and 1 20ft high damn.  And that was after going to court 11 years ago  and was told to knock it off.

If he can have a pond with 13,000 gallons why not 13 mill? The laws are stupid and oppressive, some people want govt to be their nanny and tell them what to do 24/7, like zappa does.

If it turns out he was blocking rivers then he was wrong. As it stands now you have no right to the rain that falls on you, and that is a bad law.


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: Stonehenge]
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actually in oregon you do have a right to rainwater...

You just can't fill up ponds of the shit.  which kind of makes sense because there would be like, ecological consequences if everyone went around storing up millions of gallons of water.  Mainly they wouldn't be able to put chemicals into the water to make everyone gay like the earthquake HAARP is aiming at san fransisco.


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
> I have twice quoted the passage from the article I found that you refused to link for your copy paste wherein he admits to damming a stream on his property.  I didn't allege anything.  Harrington admitted it in court

He admitted building a dam, not blocking any river.


What do you think a dam is?
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>One of the people involved in this discussion is a stupid lying asshole

They say confession is good for the soul. Don't you feel better now?

team
>I checked more news stories, he was damning up tributaries


Do you know what the word "tributary" means?
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That could be but I would want more than some journalists scribblings.


You copy pasted those same journalistic scribllings without attribution.  You didn't write what you posted.  You are a plagiarist as well.  Yet another level of lie.
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>Also his ponds had 13 million gallons of water, and 1 20ft high damn.  And that was after going to court 11 years ago  and was told to knock it off.

If he can have a pond with 13,000 gallons why not 13 mill? The laws are stupid and oppressive, some people want govt to be their nanny and tell them what to do 24/7, like zappa does.

If it turns out he was blocking rivers then he was wrong. As it stands now you have no right to the rain that falls on you, and that is a bad law.


I ask again.  If you have a creek running through your property and I dam it on my property which is upstream will you not cry like a little girl?

There is nothing in this case that says he has no right to the rain that falls on his property.  He has no right to the rain that falls on other people's property and passes through his.  See my link to riparian rights which is a well established legal doctrine.  Colorado cannot choke off Arizona.


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: teamkiller]
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teamkiller said:
actually in oregon you do have a right to rainwater...

You just can't fill up ponds of the shit.  which kind of makes sense because there would be like, ecological consequences if everyone went around storing up millions of gallons of water.  Mainly they wouldn't be able to put chemicals into the water to make everyone gay like the earthquake HAARP is aiming at san fransisco.


It wasn't water that fell on his property.  It was a creek that passed through his property and carried water that had fallen on other people's property.


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: teamkiller] * 1
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Some of you guys are hilarious.  People like this crack me up.  They believe any fucking piece of bullshit they read and then call everyone else sheep or talk shit for believing what they hear. Hahahaha.

Do your own research.  The dude had 13 million gallons of water.  This isn't about collecting rain water.  That's legal.  This is about him damming up tributaries to a local river.  13 million gallons.  We aren't talkiny about collecting rainwater.  For fucks sake man, some of yall believe any fucking stupid wording the media throws your way.


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: zappaisgod]
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You leftists will be thrilled with this but the rest of us are appalled.


Some people have to make everything political :rolleyes:

have no idea why you would introduce partisan politics into this. Boo.


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
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Stonehenge said:
Good point, maka. You can build all the dams you wish as long as you don't block or divert a river from its natural flow downstream. I'm glad a few people see through zappa's smoke screen.


A dam by definition does this.


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Re: Man prosecuted for collecting rainwater [Re: Shpongle1]
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Actually the article had the facts.  Stonehenge is the obfuscator here since he
1.  Didn't post a link and
2.  Cut off his plagiarized piece before the pertinent information was provided, i.e. that the asshole was damming the creek.


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