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Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius?
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I absolutely love them! Theyre gorgeous toads, I would love to own one.



Has anyone owned one before? Is it hard to care for? I have much experience with snakes, Im sure some of those skills and knowledge will translate to toad care...

I also cant find a vendor with this species..

But if I did find a vendor with live Bufo alvarius should I grab a pair? Do they make good pets? Im not worried about/planning to milk them fyi, I just love the toad.



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Is it ethical or morally ok to make a wild harvested endangered species your pet?



Zombi3 said:
I recently look into grtting a Bufo alvarius, good luck man they rare as fuck and almost aways wild caught :crazy:


Does anyone think its unethical to steal this endangered species out of the wild? I havent been able to locate a captive breeder and trust me I bloody tried...

The only toads I can get are of unknown gender, unknown age, and wild caught on masse, somewhere far from me... (likely California or Arizona), Bufo alvarious is either endangered or threatend in both areas...

Gorgeous as they are, should we really be fucking with this sacred creature?

I WOULD LOVE ONE. But is even a 50 gallon tank really enough for this toad to be "happy"?



I mean Ive always wanted one too:tongue:, buttt.....  :crazy:







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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: Zombi3]
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It's been a dream of mine since I was in high school to own one of these guys. I've always been big into Herpetology, and I fucking love amphibians!


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: Zombi3]
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go visit tucson during monsoons, shit gets old testament out there with those fuckers.


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  Edited by yageman (04/20/06 4:20 PM) 

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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: wrestler_az]
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OP what you gonna do with a big giant toad
Ya can't walk it
I don't think they fetch.
And I doubt if you kiss it it will turn into a beautiful Girl/Guy.


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: r00tuuu123]
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r00tuuu123 said:
OP what you gonna do with a big giant toad
Ya can't walk it
I don't think they fetch.
And I doubt if you kiss it it will turn into a beautiful Girl/Guy.


Toads are cool little pets, man! They're very personable.

And so damned cute!


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: wrestler_az]
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I have all the extra gear needed to set up a great enclosure for one, Im dieing to find a local pet store that carries them because I dont feel comfortable having one mailed internationally, which believe it or not is an option :crazy:


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: Zombi3]
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Zombi3 said:
I have all the extra gear needed to set up a great enclosure for one, Im dieing to find a local pet store that carries them because I dont feel comfortable having one mailed internationally, which believe it or not is an option :crazy:


Do you really think you'll find one at a pet store?


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
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ThatKidWithTheFace said:
r00tuuu123 said:
OP what you gonna do with a big giant toad
Ya can't walk it
I don't think they fetch.
And I doubt if you kiss it it will turn into a beautiful Girl/Guy.


Toads are cool little pets, man! They're very personable.

And so damned cute!

So are pythons till ya gotta start feeding em whole chickens twice a week.


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: r00tuuu123]
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I've got a boa, and I'm slowly starting to realize that myself :lol:


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
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My ball python will never need more than rats, so Im lucky there...

I have been told Bufo alvarius is not common but is possible to find in a pet store...


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: Zombi3]
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Do they have regular toads in Canada?


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: lowbrow]
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Ya theres even native Bufo species in Canada. :thumbup:


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: Zombi3]
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Thought they were 'protected' species? Shows how much I know.

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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: SoupSandwich]
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they are. i know on the state level in AZ it is illegal to remove them from the state. not sure about anywhere else though.


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: SoupSandwich]
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SoupSandwich said:
Thought they were 'protected' species? Shows how much I know.


"In California, I. alvarius has been designated as "endangered" and possession of this toad is illegal. "It is unlawful to capture, collect, intentionally kill or injure, possess, purchase, propagate, sell, transport, import or export any native reptile or amphibian, or part thereof. In New Mexico, this toad is listed as "threatened" and, again, taking I. alvarius is unlawful." - From the wiki

I presume theyre legal to own everywhere else on earth. You just cant steal them from the wild LOL.


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: SoupSandwich]
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fishing liscence allows 12 caught


selling or export illegal

found 'bout three last year

can eat just about anything as a full grow small-melon size toad with giant psycadelic glands

anything from mice to pringles

can buy off net for outrageous price($120+)

ive made like 3 threads 'bout this subject already

and you cant find them at pet shops even in its home state unless black market/illegal back room sales..

come visit me in 3 months and we'll find n' & milk 'em




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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: Doctor Sponge]
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"In their survey of 1994, Jennings and Hayes noted that this toad is apparently extirpated from most or all of its sites in California. This is likely due to loss of habitat and to pesticide use brought about by modern agricultural methods. According to a California Department of Fish and Game report, no toads have been collected or observed in California since 1955. This toad has also declined in New Mexico, but is abundant in many parts of Arizona."
- http://www.californiaherps.com/frogs/pages/b.alvarius.html


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: Zombi3]
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I live in multiple locals lil' buddeh despite what you assumed

and I guarantee CRT's live in parts of SoCAl along the CO river


I deal with the more potent sonoran desert toad


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: Doctor Sponge]
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Can you PM me a link for a reputable online vendor with these toads by any chance?


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Re: Anyone ever own a Bufo alvarius? [Re: Zombi3]
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I used to look but I haven't anymore in years cuz there natural in places I go


found a big one in the bushes near my car last year and baby ones near the river bed as well


the one in the bushes was insanely big...double the size of a grapefruit


if you own one they can be loud at night


when I looked I found a few supposed vendors with 'river toads but the price was steep

in AZ your allowed to catch up to 12 and keep or do whatever BUT you cannot sell or export...


the vendors collect them in CA,NM,and even TX generally boring AZ but by now have bred them...


I mean it'd be easy to breed them if you caught a few..@ $140 a pop I guess its goo busness


only thing is you have to distinguish them from the 6 or 7 toad and bullfrog species that come out when the monsoon hits which isn't easy...

if you see a full grown toad and that bitch is huge AF,thats most likely a RT


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