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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Adden]
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Mescalean said:
setb said:
They absolutely do hate jews, jews have been victim of hatred for centuries. You're getting pretty defensive there buddy, am I hitting a nerve?


So have many other races. And not really, its just an annoying cop out most Zionists use when they can no long back up their argument with logic and reason. Personally I could care less what imaginary man in the sky anyone believes in. It's all equally retarded to me. I have a problem with A group of people completely fucking an indigenous people out of their home because they got fucked over a couple years earlier, carpet bombing is never a pretty thing.

I just have issues with the zionist agenda and the attitudes of the zionists themselves. Self centered to say the least.


Seems like you're pretty ignorant on the whole situation. Those "Palestinians" are largely not from the area. There are Israeli arabs that are not "Palestinian". Perhaps Jordan should give back the large track of land initially earmarked for the "Palestinians" by the UN, land that they stole.

Ironicly, the Israli's did Jordan a favor when they took the West Bank. The Jordanians had their own issues with the Palestinian crazies, and were far more brutal twords them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan

Shoot, Egypt has built the same kind of wall around Gaza as Israel has and not a peep from the media or activists groups.


TEMPLAR PALADIN said:
setb said:
By parasites you mean jews, of course.


Israelites*

Also no racism / hate speech in the Pub, man. Take it to OTD. It makes your posts and general character as a person morally suspect.


Yep, definitely struck a nerve.

Edited by setb (04/05/15 05:14 PM)

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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Struck a nerve being a racist xenophobe. Who woulda thunk.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Adden] * 1
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I was pointing out another user's anti-semitism, he likes the use that code word.

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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Setb, you guys have about used up that old antisemitism bullshit. You trot it out every single time anyone makes a valid criticism of isreal. Is that all you've got? No rebuttals or very weak ones for the criticisms like ethnic cleansing, human rights abuses, land theft, attacking allies, so on and so on. No, its all about religion to you so you can play the victim.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Antisemitism is the word Jews use to make themselves invincible. You can't talk shit about Israel because:

Israel >>> Jews >>> Antisemitism >>> Xenophobia >>> You're an asshole.

The perfect slide towards guilt. Teflon slippy

Well I don't like Israel. I don't give a fuck about their religion. I just hate Israeli policy and attitude.

Can I say that without sounding like a bigoted, xenophobic, antisemitic asshole you think???


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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It's a good deal for 2 reasons:

1) Think of our prior "enemies"...Particularly cold war Soviet Union and communist China. We are on relatively good terms with each, as in we trade and do a lot of business now.

2) Our middle east stategy is shifting from being super militarized and heavily involved with boots on the ground to sitting back and letting the Shia and Sunnis balance each other out. So we get to provide intelligence to the Saudis (sunni) in 1 theater: Their fight against the Houthis (Shia) in Yemen who are very close with Iran....But then in another theater, Iraq, we bomb ISIS (sunni) which supports the shia government which is friendly with Iran. Then we get to make friendly negotiations with Iran (shia) which scares the shit out of Saudi Arabia (sunni) as well as Israel.

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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setb said:
I was pointing out another user's anti-semitism, he likes the use that code word.


 

Or just realize that they are not one in the same... There are zionists who are non jews and some jews who are not Zionists. Sorry I don't support a nationalist agenda that slaughters people who have rocks to defend themselves. Not sorry for seeing past the bullshit race card so often used in this debate.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Confucian]
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>2) Our middle east stategy is shifting from being super militarized and heavily involved with boots on the ground to sitting back and letting the Shia and Sunnis balance each other out.

Don't we wish! Someone should communicate that idea to obumble. He seems to think we have to get in the middle of every dispute over there and blow up both sides.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Confucian]
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Confucian said:
It's a good deal for 2 reasons:

1) Think of our prior "enemies"...Particularly cold war Soviet Union and communist China. We are on relatively good terms with each, as in we trade and do a lot of business now.

2) Our middle east stategy is shifting from being super militarized and heavily involved with boots on the ground to sitting back and letting the Shia and Sunnis balance each other out. So we get to provide intelligence to the Saudis (sunni) in 1 theater: Their fight against the Houthis (Shia) in Yemen who are very close with Iran....But then in another theater, Iraq, we bomb ISIS (sunni) which supports the shia government which is friendly with Iran. Then we get to make friendly negotiations with Iran (shia) which scares the shit out of Saudi Arabia (sunni) as well as Israel.


We are most certainly not on good terms with either China or Russia and we are not having friendly negotiations with Iran.  There is nothing friendly about any of it and the boy king and Lurch are fools.  Further, there is no deal at all if both sides don't agree on what it contains.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Hey, you're the one who said the holocaust was an invention.

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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setb said:
Hey, you're the one who said the holocaust was an invention.


Got a quote? I have said many things about it were exaggerated. Not the same as what you said.

Zap, contrary to your xenophobic views, we are indeed on good terms with the Chinese and reasonable terms with Russia too.

>the boy king and Lurch

One of your better characterizations.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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You are crazy if you think we are on good terms with Russia and China.  The definition of good terms is not just that we aren't bombing them.  They are very much the enemy still.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
That's getting a little ot but the holocaust was mainly an invention. More gypsies, Russians, etc died in the camps than jews but jewish history makes it all about jews, like they were the only ones who died therefore the world owes them bigtime.


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21378116#21378116

Edited by setb (04/05/15 06:27 PM)

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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Do you dispute it?


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
You are crazy if you think we are on good terms with Russia and China.  The definition of good terms is not just that we aren't bombing them.  They are very much the enemy still.


Only in your mind which seems to be full of hate for many groups. They are not our enemies, they are economic and geopolitical rivals which is not the same thing. If you had your way we would be bombing.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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I don't think there are any serious tensions with china, but Russia? You have to have your head in the sand not to know how bad things are with Russia.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: koods]
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We have serious issues with China as well.  Their currency manipulation, business protectionism and regional territory claims are all sources of tension that do not exist with the vast majority of the world.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: koods]
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I thought when the new leader of Iran came into power, things would settle down. I guess I was wrong. I stopped keeping up with the news a year ago. I work too much. But hey, this world is going to end eventually. Just brace yourselves.. winter is coming.. :snowflake:  :snowflake:


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: JustForToday]
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The leader of Iran is not elected.  He is a mullah.  The President and everybody else does exactly what he tells them to do.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
I don't think there are any serious tensions with china, but Russia? You have to have your head in the sand not to know how bad things are with Russia.


Tensions sure, but enemies, no. Its not like it was at the height of the cold war but obumble has managed to mismanage everything. He took the peaceful coexistence we had under bush and brought about the present unstable situation. Lets hope he doesn't fumble us into a war with one of them.

The funny thing is obumble's trump card was supposed to be his foreign policy. The media told us the world loved him. Not so much anymore.


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