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Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway?
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Should we give them a chance to show good faith? Or should we do as nutandyahoo says and bomb them back to the stone age? Likely isreal will bomb them no matter what which will lead to retaliation and we will be forced to take their side against iran.

Should we give peace a chance or is that too much of a hippie concept in this day and age? The rabid gop right wingers want no  part of any deal and since isreal calls the shots here, very likely the next president will sign the legislation throwing it out. Could it be obumble finally did something right?

“Iran conceded a considerable amount in this deal, and Zarif and Rouhani may want to break the news back home slowly,” Mr. Albright said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/05/world/middleeast/outline-of-iran-nuclear-deal-sounds-different-from-each-side.html?_r=0

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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We definitely should not trust them. Allowing them to develop any kind of nuclear capacity will antagonize not only Israel but all of our Arab allies. Remember, Iran is shia controlled and the Arab nations are majority suni controlled. Saudi Arabia can obtain nuclear know how from Pakistan and have more than enough money to develop a nuclear program.

Iran and the Arabs are already in a hot proxy war that is growing more direct as the days go by. You think the middle east is bad now?

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge] * 3
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Stonehenge said:
Should we give them a chance to show good faith?



who the fuck am I to tell you what you can and cant do

you arent allowed to plant flowers
you arent allowed to own a dog
you arent allowed to shoot a gun
you arent allowed to have a good time


isnt this what the US is doing?

who the fuck is the US to tell Iran what they can do


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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We should give them an economy or a bomb, not both. Of course we should give this deal a chance and see how things play out before taking any further action against them.

I don't have high hopes for the deal though. Like you said, nutteryahoo will continually preach death to Iran and will provoke them just enough to cause an issue that will force us to take Isreals side and set back our relationship with Iran even more.

Iran isn't any better than Isreal though. They are backing the shitheads who are demolishing Yemen, their leader in a speech the other week preached death to all americans, and they in general are religious nutters. I don't see it going well.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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I don't know why people think bombs are a solution to this problem

All it would do is piss off all the other countries around them and cause the deaths of many innocent people


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
We should give them an economy or a bomb, not both. Of course we should give this deal a chance and see how things play out before taking any further action against them.

I don't have high hopes for the deal though. Like you said, nutteryahoo will continually preach death to Iran and will provoke them just enough to cause an issue that will force us to take Isreals side and set back our relationship with Iran even more.

Iran isn't any better than Isreal though. They are backing the shitheads who are demolishing Yemen, their leader in a speech the other week preached death to all americans, and they in general are religious nutters. I don't see it going well.


Let's not forget how the Iranians supplied many of the IEDs used on our troops in Iraq. You want to trust them?

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb] * 1
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Let Iran get nukes.

Let Iran nuke the Middle East.

Free of charge too


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? *DELETED* [Re: setb]
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Post deleted by DidYouSetItToWumbo

Reason for deletion: not my opinion


Edited by DidYouSetItToWumbo (04/05/15 09:39 AM)

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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They did exactly the right thing, this deal is terrible. All Iran wants is the sanctions lifted and they'll build a bomb anyway.

But you're party right, they don't take us seriously because John fucking Kerry was negotiating on our behalf. Guy's a buffoon.

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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Webster10 said:
We should give them an economy or a bomb, not both. Of course we should give this deal a chance and see how things play out before taking any further action against them.

I don't have high hopes for the deal though. Like you said, nutteryahoo will continually preach death to Iran and will provoke them just enough to cause an issue that will force us to take Isreals side and set back our relationship with Iran even more.

Iran isn't any better than Israel though. They are backing the shitheads who are demolishing Yemen, their leader in a speech the other week preached death to all americans, and they in general are religious nutters. I don't see it going well.


Let's not forget how the Iranians supplied many of the IEDs used on our troops in Iraq. You want to trust them?


We should at least see how it goes before we jump to any rash decisions.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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I say we just give them all nukes stand back and see what happens. Every single country over there including israel is fighting over some fucking book/books written how long ago? With how much evidence pointing to the stories to be true? Give them nukes lets see what happens, worse case scenario that entire region is glass.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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OhMrJohnson said:
I don't know why people think bombs are a solution to this problem

All it would do is piss off all the other countries around them and cause the deaths of many innocent people


But isn't that the American way? Its been our way of doing things for a long time.

pris
>who the fuck is the US to tell Iran what they can do

Aren't we the ruler of the world now? If not then who is?

setb
>John fucking Kerry was negotiating on our behalf. Guy's a buffoon.

You have a point.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: DidYouSetItToWumbo]
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DidYouSetItToWumbo said:
I doubt Iran takes much of anything we do seriously after those 47 whackos in the senate proved our governing bodies lack of intelligence.


How is a veiled threat a lack of intelligence? IMO it probably scared them a little more straight then they would've been.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said:
I say we just give them all nukes stand back and see what happens. Every single country over there including israel is fighting over some fucking book/books written how long ago?


The conflict has far more to do with with British and French imperialism at the end of WW1 than the bible. Just saying.

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb] * 1
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I say we launch an invasion. Reduce there cities to rubble destroy all farms and then repopulate it with patriotic Americans. Iran can be the 51st state over time we can do this all over the world until Americans are the only nation standing.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? *DELETED* [Re: Webster10]
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Reason for deletion: not my opinion


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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setb said:
They did exactly the right thing, this deal is terrible. All Iran wants is the sanctions lifted and they'll build a bomb anyway.

But you're party right, they don't take us seriously because John fucking Kerry was negotiating on our behalf. Guy's a buffoon.




...but they're not lifting the sanctions? Plus the UN inspectors having regular access to any and all facilities where they even have the capability to build a nuclear weapon (or enrich the uranium needed for it in the first place). Nuclear materials aren't exactly something you can just go 'oh shit the inspector is coming' and toss in the truck til they're gone.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Cj-B]
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They are lifting the sanctions. That was kind of the whole point: lift the sanction in exchange for a brief slow down of their nuke development. It's a shitty deal.

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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It would be terrible if a nuclear "accident" happened in Iran.

If not,



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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: DidYouSetItToWumbo]
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DidYouSetItToWumbo said:
Webster10 said:
DidYouSetItToWumbo said:
I doubt Iran takes much of anything we do seriously after those 47 whackos in the senate proved our governing bodies lack of intelligence.


How is a veiled threat a lack of intelligence? IMO it probably scared them a little more straight then they would've been.


Because they had no right to be interfering. I don't give a fuck how shitty the deal is, the right way to point this out isn't by passing a folded note under the desk like a third grader.


I have a feeling that if the democrats did the same exact thing then you'd be cheering on their bold move.

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