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Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? * 2
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The Cynics were a group of people in Greece who noticed the hypocrisy/declination brewing in their culture and cast off their wealth (if they had it) and lived as a humble ascetic. As well as going out on the streets and calling out those they saw as adding the decline using wit and satire to get a point across.

Cynics nowadays are complainers, not willing to take responsibility for their own involvement, however subtle, in what they oppose.

Cynics were social activists.
Now it's just a silly label you can choose if you're disgruntled.

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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: Stephen1123]
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you're being cynical again.


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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: redgreenvines]
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this guy in Darwin called the rubbish warrior acts like the original cynics .




This dudes homeless and makes rubbish sculptures I talked to him hes not crazy just alternative lifestyle...always at court.

The picture with graffiti is on the court building


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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: Amorphouspattern]
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what kind of mood am I in?

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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: Amorphouspattern]
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Amorphouspattern said:
this guy in Darwin called the rubbish warrior acts like the original cynics .




This dudes homeless and makes rubbish sculptures I talked to him hes not crazy just alternative lifestyle...always at court.

The picture with graffiti is on the court building



I would gather up all those same homeless an build a rubbish castle and claim sovereignty!

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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: Stephen1123]
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don't make me move to Darwin


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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: Stephen1123] * 1
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Stephen1123 said:
The Cynics were a group of people in Greece who noticed the hypocrisy/declination brewing in their culture and cast off their wealth (if they had it) and lived as a humble ascetic. As well as going out on the streets and calling out those they saw as adding the decline using wit and satire to get a point across.

Cynics nowadays are complainers, not willing to take responsibility for their own involvement, however subtle, in what they oppose.

Cynics were social activists.
Now it's just a silly label you can choose if you're disgruntled.



And look at all the good that approach did. Cynicism is born from the brokenness. And if an approach doesn't accomplish anything of note, that approach soon becomes enveloped in the cynicism as also broken.

Not to mention that we all need to complain no matter what we are doing or how we see ourselves. Many cynics I know have more or less concluded that it matters little what they are doing. It isn't humanities fault that things are broken. That is out of our hands. We were destined to be this way as this is how it has happened despite best efforts.


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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: Kickle] * 1
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Kickle said:
Stephen1123 said:
The Cynics were a group of people in Greece who noticed the hypocrisy/declination brewing in their culture and cast off their wealth (if they had it) and lived as a humble ascetic. As well as going out on the streets and calling out those they saw as adding the decline using wit and satire to get a point across.

Cynics nowadays are complainers, not willing to take responsibility for their own involvement, however subtle, in what they oppose.

Cynics were social activists.
Now it's just a silly label you can choose if you're disgruntled.



And look at all the good that approach did. Cynicism is born from the brokenness. And if an approach doesn't accomplish anything of note, that approach soon becomes enveloped in the cynicism as also broken.

Not to mention that we all need to complain no matter what we are doing or how we see ourselves. Many cynics I know have more or less concluded that it matters little what they are doing. It isn't humanities fault that things are broken. That is out of our hands. We were destined to be this way as this is how it has happened despite best efforts.




QFT


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With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: Stephen1123]
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Stephen1123 said:
The Cynics were a group of people in Greece who noticed the hypocrisy/declination brewing in their culture and cast off their wealth (if they had it) and lived as a humble ascetic. As well as going out on the streets and calling out those they saw as adding the decline using wit and satire to get a point across.

Cynics nowadays are complainers, not willing to take responsibility for their own involvement, however subtle, in what they oppose.

Cynics were social activists.
Now it's just a silly label you can choose if you're disgruntled.



Not sure how a cynic would trust other people to action. Especially if they're also doused with a healthy dose of pessimism. Where's the motivation?

Seems more like an evolution of terms than a degradation of standards. Though I wouldn't dismiss the two to be entwined.

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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: asterical]
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asterical said:
Stephen1123 said:
The Cynics were a group of people in Greece who noticed the hypocrisy/declination brewing in their culture and cast off their wealth (if they had it) and lived as a humble ascetic. As well as going out on the streets and calling out those they saw as adding the decline using wit and satire to get a point across.

Cynics nowadays are complainers, not willing to take responsibility for their own involvement, however subtle, in what they oppose.

Cynics were social activists.
Now it's just a silly label you can choose if you're disgruntled.



Not sure how a cynic would trust other people to action. Especially if they're also doused with a healthy dose of pessimism. Where's the motivation?

Seems more like an evolution of terms than a degradation of standards. Though I wouldn't dismiss the two to be entwined.



I agree, the term changed. Our culture changes word meanings all the time. But don't lump today's total pessimistic cynic with that of the virtuous cynic of old Greece if you notice the difference.
Cynics were motivated by living in accordance with nature.

Kickles and Icelanders type of cynicism is just nay-saying and they obviously like brooding in their negativity. Ooh.. I'm located in the 'underbelly'  of the beast no doubt and I'm a 'dying hope'. If you two practically admit to being negatively bias why even try discussing anything? I am glad Icelander changed his mood status though.

No personal attacks.  Debate the issue and not the person:

Edited by johnm214 (01/08/15 10:46 PM)

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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? *DELETED* [Re: Stephen1123]
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Post deleted by Lakefingers

Reason for deletion: Reason.

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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: Lakefingers]
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eww botox!


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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
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redgreenvines said:
you're being cyclical again.



Could you repeat that?


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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: Stephen1123] * 1
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Stephen1123 said:
Kickles and Icelanders type of cynicism is just nay-saying and they obviously like brooding in their negativity. Ooh.. I'm located in the 'underbelly'  of the beast no doubt and I'm a 'dying hope'. If you two practically admit to being negatively bias why even try discussing anything? I am glad Icelander changed his mood status though.



Huh? Where are you pulling these character traits from?

Fyi "hope" in my title is a Greek reference. It originally said a small hope when I joined, then a growing hope for years and eventually a dying hope. It refers to me as a person being small, then growing and now in the process of dying.

Just in case you were actually interested in what it meant rather than assuming.


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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
redgreenvines said:
you're being cyclical again.



Could you repeat that?



what goes around comes aroun


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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: redgreenvines]
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emp d?


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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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just the proscribed hold back in case...


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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: Stephen1123] * 1
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Kickles and Icelanders type of cynicism is just nay-saying and they obviously like brooding in their negativity. Ooh.. I'm located in the 'underbelly'  of the beast no doubt and I'm a 'dying hope'. If you two practically admit to being negatively bias why even try discussing anything? I am glad Icelander changed his mood status though.


Personalisms are always a good way to debate a topic.:crazy2:  Really who gives a shit what you think about me and Kickle?  Maybe just educate yourself the tiniest bit by reading the forum rules.:facepalm:

For someone who points fingers at what others say it seems you'd make a better entrance to debate at this site. Maybe too much to ask. :satansmoking:

What I'd really like to change my status to is "FUCK YOU"


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: Stephen1123] * 1
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Say what you want.

"The cynics are right nine times out of ten." --H.L. Mencken


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Re: Is anyone claiming to be cynical actually behaving so? [Re: DividedQuantum]
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but we have entered an alternate reality


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