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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
qman said:
I bet your hand rapes you every night.  :rofl2:


ran out of platitudes? so now on to ad hominem?




how was yours different from his?


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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
akira_akuma said:
Prisoner#1 said:
rape culture exists, according to feminists, every woman is a victim of
rape, men cannot be raped because men are all rapists, even though the
majority of rapes have men as the victim, feminists still push the concept
of only women can be raped and that when men are raped it doesnt matter
because they apparently deserve it. we also know that men are unlikely to
report rape regardless of the offending sex, we hear that more than half
the rapes in the US go unreported, wouldnt this suggest that men tend to be
the real victims but feminists want to further victimize men


what crazy rationalizations do you have to make that your argument? :lmafo: men get victimized by rape more how? blue balls?


that's it, go ahead and trivialize the real victims, promote domestic battery
as a part of life that should be accepted. it's clearly what you live for


trivialize the real victims? WHO again, are those victims? men getting raped by who? which women? or other men? women can rape men, but do they rape men as much as cocks get stuffed into nether-regions unwarranted? seriously.

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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
akira_akuma said:
qman said:
I bet your hand rapes you every night.  :rofl2:


ran out of platitudes? so now on to ad hominem?




how was yours different from his?


i've given my dues. now he's resorting to this because he can't provide a real answer. me, i follow suit, because we're already done here. the argument has been settled, time and time again.

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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: qman]
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qman said:
akira_akuma said:
qman said:
I bet your hand rapes you every night.  :rofl2:


ran out of platitudes? so now on to ad hominem?


It goes unreported as well, you're also part of the "rape culture".  :lol:


you people are like... droids or something.

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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
Prisoner#1 said:
akira_akuma said:
Prisoner#1 said:
so domestic abuse is acceptable


no. again, you are astoundingly obtuse for someone who is supposed to be intelligent, by most regards.

i said that violence is NEVER ACCEPTABLE, but it happens, and with couples, all the time: and that if everyone was to go to the police and charge and leave their spouses with every single incident of a slap on the cheek, then there would BE NO COUPLES.



this, along with "love hurts, deal with it"

you're advocating domestic violence

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sorta like you; sorry to say.


what the fuck are you even talking about at this point?


no i am not advocating, i am EXPLAINING. daft people man.


explaining by saying people should stay with those that abuse them?


how is that an explanation?

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and you are seriously a butthurt individual



ad hominem

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you can't help but fan the reek of your desperation when a young chicka is around, and then you get dumped soon like next weeks trash, because of the metaphorical stench and probably because you don't treat women as more then garden implements.


ad hominem


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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
trivialize the real victims? WHO again, are those victims? men getting raped by who? which women? or other men? women can rape men, but do they rape men as much as cocks get stuffed into nether-regions unwarranted? seriously.




that's it, keep marginalizing the victims


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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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i never said anyone should stay together when you're abused. i'm EXPLAINING (seriously you and everyone else, look up this word, very useful) how people fight in a relationship and ONE SLAP doesn't mean that ABUSE is going to occur any further. it's when the clashes THAT ARE VIOLENT happen on MORE THAN ONE OCCASION. that is the summation of what i ACTUALLY SAID.

nothing else applies. not your cologne of desperation either.

just ignore this post, and read one of my earlier ones if you wish. it's all there. it's just you guys are literally twisting my words. all good though. just shows your comprehension is not so astute.

Prisoner#1 said:
akira_akuma said:
trivialize the real victims? WHO again, are those victims? men getting raped by who? which women? or other men? women can rape men, but do they rape men as much as cocks get stuffed into nether-regions unwarranted? seriously.




that's it, keep marginalizing the victims


that's it, keep having nothing. and keep up the platitudes.

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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
Prisoner#1 said:
akira_akuma said:
qman said:
I bet your hand rapes you every night.  :rofl2:


ran out of platitudes? so now on to ad hominem?




how was yours different from his?


i've given my dues. now he's resorting to this because he can't provide a real answer. me, i follow suit, because we're already done here. the argument has been settled, time and time again.



which is why you resort to so many ad hominem attacks


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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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yeah, i think that's what i said there, ya.

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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
i never said anyone should stay together when you're abused. i'm EXPLAINING (seriously you and everyone else, look up this word, very useful) how people fight in a relationship and ONE SLAP doesn't mean that ABUSE is going to occur any further. it's when the clashes THAT ARE VIOLENT happen on MORE THAN ONE OCCASION. that is the summation of what i ACTUALLY SAID.

nothing else applies. not your cologne of desperation either.

just ignore this post, and read one of my earlier ones if you wish. it's all there. it's just you guys are literally twisting my words. all good though. just shows your comprehension is not so astute.






well, maybe you can explain these statements that clearly say that people shouldnt report domestic abuse because "love hurts, deal with it"


akira_akuma said:
no. again, you are astoundingly obtuse for someone who is supposed to be intelligent, by most regards.

i said that violence is NEVER ACCEPTABLE, but it happens, and with couples, all the time: and that if everyone was to go to the police and charge and leave their spouses with every single incident of a slap on the cheek, then there would BE NO COUPLES.



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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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people fight: couples fight: if no couple ever fought, there would BE no couples: a slap is not abuse (do you advocate for a slap on the bum for your kids? same logic applies): but a slap can turn into abuse, because the person really takes it seriously, as an offense, or is seriously hurt by the slap physically: that person can go to the police and even SHOULD if the slap was violent enough and if the person is incongruously abusing and than having to make up for that, to maintain the relationship (ie this is obviously a sour relationship; the person who is abusing it could be and if-so SHOULD be charged, if the person either a: loves them enough or b: doesn't [it doesn't matter]): but if every lovers quarrel that contained a slap, throughout history, was processed legally, then there would BE no relationships: and now you're gonna whine about how men don't ever slap women, because it's not kosher, but that women can because it is, and then you'll ask me to explain that: women have been slapped for a long time; if they slapped a man back fifty years ago, or a hundred years ago, it'd be the same result; because the man HAS and CAN slap a women, the woman's slap by reason of that, is considered nonchalant and almost expected eventually by way of them being hit so much; ergo the slap doesn't usually offend the defending party, so much as it tells them how it feels to themselves: now that we have new rules in society, this act of slapping is reserved only for men who are "out of control", and women who are "out of control"; but this was NEVER taken into account before; making this a turning of the tables, if you will, of how women at one point had to accept the notion of being hit by a man; now men want to see to it that this can never be perpetrated on them, by way of saying the tables are turned and look how women are: but they've been taught that way be men: and has since been re-enforced by stereotypes that only women can be so distraught as to "be out of control"; even though men have been for millennia: men have now become women by their own contortion.

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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
people fight: couples fight: if no couple ever fought, there would BE no couples: a slap is not abuse


akira_akuma said:
if everyone was to go to the police and charge and leave their spouses with every single incident of a slap on the cheek, then there would BE NO COUPLES.


Are you seriously trying to argue that domestic violence is a fact of EVERY relationship?


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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: Shroomism]
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no, just immature ones. they should break up and not get someone charged for a slap on the cheek. again, people, that's what i ACTUALLY said.

it's just like if someone had sex with a chick and she was drunk and like "oo feel mah tits likey? wanna fuck?" and then the next day decided she was "way out of it", and "he raped me, didn't he?".

you wouldn't want THAT guy getting charged. same logic applies here to the "slap" being argued as "domestic abuse".

a slap is what your mama gives you when you don't shut the fuck at the table. not that it should be done, but then again immature people are usually fucking annoying to the point where one snaps. but a single slap =/= abuse. even CPS would laugh over a single slap.

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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: akira_akuma]
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No, what you actually said is that if everyone charged and left their spouse for physical abuse there would be no couples.


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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
people fight: couples fight: if no couple ever fought, there would BE no couples


really?

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a slap is not abuse (do you advocate for a slap on the bum for your kids? same logic applies): but a slap can turn into abuse, because the person really takes it seriously, as an offense, or is seriously hurt by the slap physically: that person can go to the police and even SHOULD if the slap was violent enough and if the person is incongruously abusing and than having to make up for that, to maintain the relationship 


so if some random stranger just slapped me then I couldnt have them
arrested for battery? when a stranger does it I have the right to defend
myself and the right to have them arrested regardless of whether it hurt
or not but you're saying people should tolerate domestic violence in order
to maintain a relationship


how again is this not advocating domestic violence?


Quote:
now that we have new rules in society, this act of slapping is reserved only for men who are "out of control", and women who are "out of control"; but this was NEVER taken into account before; making this a turning of the tables, if you will, of how women at one point had to accept the notion of being hit by a man; now men want to see to it that this can never be perpetrated on them, by way of saying the tables are turned and look how women are: but they've been taught that way be men: and has since been re-enforced by stereotypes that only women can be so distraught as to "be out of control"; even though men have been for millennia: men have now become women by their own contortion.



so, in order to be men, men must be violent toward a woman that gets angry
and men want to ensure that this cant happen to them so they've passed laws
that allow men to be arrested for slapping women and now men are women and
everyone is slap happy and they need to deal with it so that we can have
couples

why shouldnt a man leave a woman or woman leave a man who has made the
decision to assault them physically? so they can be together? I mean that
appears to be your answer to why domestic battery is acceptable


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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: Shroomism]
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i was speaking rhetorically. i was saying that most couples fight, having a relationship is a learning process. especially a serious one.

again, read better.

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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
No, what you actually said is that if everyone charged and left their spouse for physical abuse there would be no couples.




what he actually said was "it dont fucking matter if you got hit, now suck it up butter cup"


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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
i was speaking rhetorically. i was saying that most couples fight, having a relationship is a learning process. especially a serious one.

again, read better.




most couples argue, not fight


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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
i was speaking rhetorically. i was saying that most couples fight, having a relationship is a learning process. especially a serious one.

again, read better.


I read it perfectly fine. Here, let me quote it for you again.

akira_akuma said:
people fight: couples fight: if no couple ever fought, there would BE no couples: a slap is not abuse


akira_akuma said:
if everyone was to go to the police and charge and leave their spouses with every single incident of a slap on the cheek, then there would BE NO COUPLES.


Seems pretty clear to me.

Yes, all couples fight (with words usually). Not all couples hit each other.


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Re: Any men in the Pub consider themselves feminists? [Re: akira_akuma]
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so if some random stranger just slapped me then I couldnt have them
arrested for battery? when a stranger does it I have the right to defend
myself and the right to have them arrested regardless of whether it hurt
or not but you're saying people should tolerate domestic violence in order
to maintain a relationship


how again is this not advocating domestic violence?


the person you are in a relationship with isn't a stranger. make them one if you cant handle the fact that you got slapped. don't have them arrested because of your ego.
oh and it's not, because it's not. i's not an advocate, it's an EXPLANATION. again READ what the fucking WORD means.

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why shouldnt a man leave a woman or woman leave a man who has made the
decision to assault them physically? so they can be together? I mean that
appears to be your answer to why domestic battery is acceptable


it's not acceptable, but a single slap is not "abuse" it's a "crime of passion" if anything. get your terms correct.

and i think i already said that one should leave the relationship if they either A: can't handle a slap or B: are looking for a more mature relationship (good for you)

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so, in order to be men, men must be violent toward a woman that gets angry
and men want to ensure that this cant happen to them so they've passed laws
that allow men to be arrested for slapping women and now men are women and
everyone is slap happy and they need to deal with it so that we can have
couples


in order to be men as men see men: yes.

but that's changed. deal with it.

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