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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: Papaver]
    #5773740 - 06/20/06 07:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

How would the Pub be moderated so that free-speech was respected but at the same time garbage was not posted?

It would be too tricky of a balance.


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InvisibleTHE KRAT BARON
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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: Papaver]
    #5773743 - 06/20/06 07:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Papaver said:
It doesn't have to do with what your conception of progress or regression is.




Good call. :thumbup:

It would be interesting to see a poll that determines whether or not the majority enjoy the pub as it is. :shrug:


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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5773744 - 06/20/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

From a personal stand point, all while new to actually register, I've been coming and reading the site for a while...

When I registered and posted a meet and greet, I was bombarded with mostly sexual commentary as opposed to the normal "what's up?"--While I have a cool head about things and I've built a tolerance someone else may not have it.

In turn losing A) traffic for the site and B) the respect any new person would have for the members of this site. The shroomery is what it is because it is a support network, experts and serious experimenters baring information and knowledge, coming together to vie for more information and knowledge to work toward something better. You lose the respect of your peers, and eventually the site becomes nothing more than a gathering place for the uninformed, unintelligent, and people who have lost the "art". I see their point entirely, dramatics aside.

There are places to "let loose" and places to flex your ability to carry on with a logical, friendly, and positive side. Works that way in the real world too mind you. Do you think you can get a job asking the boss lady if she'd show you her tits? Not likely... and further more, you'd probably also have a lawsuit on your hands... (mind you I'm using my experience as it's what I've gotten first hand.)


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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5773745 - 06/20/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Will the Pub become some hippy-wonderland/concentration camp again?


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InvisibleTHE KRAT BARON
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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5773747 - 06/20/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

RandalFlagg said:
Will the Pub become some hippy-wonderland/concentration camp again?




That's what I am worried about also. :crazy:


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InvisibleTHE KRAT BARON
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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: Acinaxuz]
    #5773750 - 06/20/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Acinaxuz said:
From a personal stand point, all while new to actually register, I've been coming and reading the site for a while...

When I registered and posted a meet and greet, I was bombarded with mostly sexual commentary as opposed to the normal "what's up?"--While I have a cool head about things and I've built a tolerance someone else may not have it. 

In turn losing A) traffic for the site and B) the respect any new person would have for the members of this site.  The shroomery is what it is because it is a support network, experts and serious experimenters baring information and knowledge, coming together to vie for more information and knowledge to work toward something better. You lose the respect of your peers, and eventually the site becomes nothing more than a gathering place for the uninformed, unintelligent, and people who have lost the "art".  I see their point entirely, dramatics aside.

There are places to "let loose" and places to flex your ability to carry on with a logical, friendly, and positive side.  Works that way in the real world too mind you.  Do you think you can get a job asking the boss lady if she'd show you her tits?  Not likely... and further more, you'd probably also have a lawsuit on your hands... (mind you I'm using my experience as it's what I've gotten first hand.)




You have some very good points that I agree with, although something tells me you're not very new here at all. :grin: :puppet:


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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5773751 - 06/20/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think message boards need moderation. Now and then you have a community that lucks out and is able to self-moderate pretty well and keep things going. However, I do think that there are times where its important for moderators to step in for the sake of keeping the quality of a forum high.


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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5773753 - 06/20/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The scary thing is...I surmise that a significant amount of current and former Pubbers would like to see something like that. :shudder:

Seriously...how many posts about the Grateful Dead can one stomach?


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OfflineAcinaxuz
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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5773754 - 06/20/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Do tell me of this hippie wonderland hehe


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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: Acinaxuz]
    #5773758 - 06/20/06 07:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Acinaxuz said:
Do tell me of this hippie wonderland hehe




EVERY post was about the Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd, "I love you guys/PLUR", etc..

It was so damn boring.


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OfflineAcinaxuz
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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5773767 - 06/20/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

mattzdope said:
Quote:

Acinaxuz said:
From a personal stand point, all while new to actually register, I've been coming and reading the site for a while...

When I registered and posted a meet and greet, I was bombarded with mostly sexual commentary as opposed to the normal "what's up?"--While I have a cool head about things and I've built a tolerance someone else may not have it. 

In turn losing A) traffic for the site and B) the respect any new person would have for the members of this site.  The shroomery is what it is because it is a support network, experts and serious experimenters baring information and knowledge, coming together to vie for more information and knowledge to work toward something better. You lose the respect of your peers, and eventually the site becomes nothing more than a gathering place for the uninformed, unintelligent, and people who have lost the "art".  I see their point entirely, dramatics aside.

There are places to "let loose" and places to flex your ability to carry on with a logical, friendly, and positive side.  Works that way in the real world too mind you.  Do you think you can get a job asking the boss lady if she'd show you her tits?  Not likely... and further more, you'd probably also have a lawsuit on your hands... (mind you I'm using my experience as it's what I've gotten first hand.)




You have some very good points that I agree with, although something tells me you're not very new here at all. :grin: :puppet:




New to register, but, I've been lurking a couple years.  :smile:


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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5773769 - 06/20/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

mattzdope said:
It would be interesting to see a poll that determines whether or not the majority enjoy the pub as it is. :shrug:




Good point.


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InvisiblePapaverS
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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5773775 - 06/20/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

RandalFlagg said:
Quote:

Acinaxuz said:
Do tell me of this hippie wonderland hehe




EVERY post was about the Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd, "I love you guys/PLUR", etc..

It was so damn boring.




It was paradise, and when I got fucking bored of paradise, as I often do, then I could wander down to OTD and have some real fun there, and back then, OTD wasn't lame, because it only has 5 people in it, like it is now...

Both forums are considerably less than they used to be, or could be, or should be, and I believe Zippoz's "membrane concept" hit the nail squarely on the head...


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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5773783 - 06/20/06 07:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

dude im guessing waaaaay undersexed not over. its been awhile since a lot of these guys have seen a vagina IRL.


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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: Papaver]
    #5773784 - 06/20/06 07:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Could you give an example of how you want the Pub to be and how you want OTD to be? Then tell us what rules should apply to both forums.

You have to admit that there is no way you can make the Pub a hippy utopia again...unless you ruthlessly suppress free speech.


Edited by RandalFlagg (06/20/06 07:39 PM)


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InvisibleZippoZM
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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: Papaver]
    #5773787 - 06/20/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Papaver said:
Quote:

mattzdope said:
Well depending on how much things change in here I'll be seeing you over in OTD. :grin: :chugbeer:




I think OTD could only improve if more people went back. I like OTD, and frankly, both forums are a fucking mess right now. They don't know what they're supposed to be. There is no clear sense of identity for either of them right now...

As Zippos said, our membrane is busted, like a cheap condom...




Oh god pappy, i hope we dont get us some chitluns,

if its a boy we can call  him lil pubber, or perhaps... the tiki lounge :cough:


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #5773788 - 06/20/06 07:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

KingOftheThing said:
its been awhile since a lot of these guys have seen a vagina IRL.




you assume they ever have


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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5773791 - 06/20/06 07:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

RandalFlagg said:
Quote:

Papaver said:
I'm going to be giving this some thought over the next week, and confer with the Mods, and we'll figure out just what has to be done, and just who has to be banned...




Seriously, I should be banned.  I post so much garbage in the Pub.  I'm not even joking.




yeah but your garbage is like the garbage i garbage pick form the rich people, its good stuff :smile:


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #5773792 - 06/20/06 07:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

KingOftheThing said:
dude im guessing waaaaay undersexed not over. its been awhile since a lot of these guys have seen a vagina IRL.




Ok, let me rephrase my use of the word "oversexed". I meant to imply that they weren't getting any in real life and because of that they are over-sexed, i.e. thinking about sex too much.


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Re: Is the Pub becoming the haven of disgusting sexist pigs? [Re: Acinaxuz]
    #5773801 - 06/20/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Acinaxuz said:
Do you think you can get a job asking the boss lady if she'd show you her tits?  Not likely... and further more, you'd probably also have a lawsuit on your hands... (mind you I'm using my experience as it's what I've gotten first hand.)





you got a lawsuit cause you asked an employer to show you her tits?  :confused:


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