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Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix....
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http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/crime/2014/12/05/nr-cabrera-pill-bottle-phoenix-shooting.cnn.html

This time its a lot more justified. Well, if not justified, let's used the word credible or "he brought it upon himself" but still. I suspect this shit will be on the media for weeks and will eventually cause riots down the road...

Seriously, cops need to use tasers more often. Guns are more for life and death scenarios when the guy clealry is pointing a gun at the cops or is already shooting. Tasers are amazing for percieved threat that may not be threats and will neutralize the situation either way.
Should cops use tasers more frequently?
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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: Patlal]
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another instance where individuals not listening to police orders end up getting hurt/dead.

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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: memes]
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if i just got done scuffling with a police officer after i ran away from the police officer, and i had my hand in my pocket, and the police officer ordered me not to remove my hand from my pocket....

...i wouldn't remove my hand from my pocket.  white/black/asian/hispanic. whatever.

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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: Patlal]
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I'm surprise cops don't use tasers more often, they're usually equipped with one - always seems like the gun is their go-to to end a situation. Grated when cops do use tasers to null a situation it doesn't make news, because usually there is no deaths.

You might not remove your hand from your pocket, but chances are if you aren't a minority removing your hand from your pocket wouldn't mean death. Besides that the story seems suspect any how, shooting someone before they even have a chance to put their hands up - how does that not even register to people.


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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: memes] * 1
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You know how many unarmed white guys get shot by white cops in Pheonix? Or how many unarmed Mexicans that get shot. Oh yea, you don't because they don't matter apparently. People need to quit the race bullshit. :facepalm:


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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: B0b0]
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This right here is a case that more people should be up in arms about, but I didn't even know about it until tonight;



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The Brooklyn district attorney said on Friday that he planned to impanel a grand jury to look into the death of Akai Gurley, an unarmed Brooklyn man who was killed last month by a police officer patrolling a public-housing unit.

With protests continuing over the grand jury decisions not to charge the officers who killed Eric Garner on Staten Island and Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., the tension around the Gurley case has also risen. Mr. Gurley was black, as were Mr. Garner and Mr. Brown. The officers in the Garner and Brown cases are white; the officer who shot Mr. Gurley, Peter Liang, is Asian-American.

The district attorney, Kenneth P. Thompson, said in a statement that he did not support the appointment of an independent prosecutor to handle the case, saying he had been elected by Brooklyn’s residents to represent their interests. “It is important to get to the bottom of what happened,” he said.

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Mr. Thompson added, at an event on Friday, that prosecutors had not completed their investigation, so the timing for the grand jury was not yet clear.

Mr. Thompson has not said what charge or charges he might ask the grand jury to consider.

Mr. Gurley, 28, was killed Nov. 20 as he walked in a dark stairwell in the Louis H. Pink Houses in the East New York neighborhood, his girlfriend at his side. The elevators in the building often malfunctioned and residents often used the stairs instead, even though the lights in the stairwells were frequently out, as they were that night.

Officer Liang, 27, was conducting a so-called vertical patrol with his partner, starting on the roof and heading down through the stairwells, a common procedure for officers assigned to housing projects. Officer Liang had his gun out and opened the door to a stairwell; the gun went off, authorities said, as Mr. Gurley entered the stairwell one floor below.

The police commissioner, William J. Bratton, characterized the shooting as “an unfortunate accident.”

While there were immediate calls for criminal charges for the officers who killed Mr. Garner and Mr. Brown, opinions about the Gurley case were varied. The Rev. Al Sharpton, who called for protests in the earlier cases, said he “didn’t know” whether an indictment was appropriate for Officer Liang.

“There has to be a full investigation,” Mr. Sharpton said, cautioning that supporters of the officer “should not rush to judgment and say it is an accident when they don’t know what happened.”

United States Representative Hakeem Jeffries, a Democrat who represents parts of Brooklyn, said Mr. Thompson’s decision was “a meaningful step in the right direction.”

“Akai Gurley did not deserve to die,” he said, “and the evidence of a kill shot that penetrated his chest and struck him in the heart suggests something more than a noncriminal accident.”

A similar shooting occurred in January 2004, when Timothy Stansbury Jr., 19, was killed on a roof at the Louis Armstrong Houses in Brooklyn by Officer Richard S. Neri Jr. A grand jury declined to indict Officer Neri after he testified that he had unintentionally discharged his weapon after Mr. Stansbury pushed open a rooftop door, startling him.

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Given what is known about the Gurley case, said Delores Jones-Brown, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice who directs its Center on Race, Crime and Justice, it seemed likely that a jury would consider criminally negligent homicide and reckless endangerment charges.

A central question for the grand jury to consider, Professor Jones-Brown said, is “what police are trained and authorized to do in these kinds of situations.” If the police action goes against training and police guidelines, the next step would be to determine how much of the officer’s behavior had diverged from “the kind of care he should’ve been exercising,” she said.

The investigation into the shooting so far has covered the first minutes after the officer shot Mr. Gurley, a law enforcement official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about an ongoing case. Mr. Liang may have used his phone to send a text message during that period, the source said, The Daily News reported on Friday.

James P. O’Neill, chief of department and the highest ranking uniformed officer in the Police Department, declined to comment on Officer Liang’s actions.

“This is an ongoing investigation by our department and the Brooklyn district attorney’s office,” Chief O’Neill said. “I really can’t talk about it.”

The Daily News suggested that Officer Liang was texting a representative of the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, although a spokesman for the union said that account did “not appear to be true.” Nonetheless, one police official said, it was not unusual for an on-duty officer to seek guidance from a union representative after firing a gun.

Mr. Jeffries said that in the Gurley case, he hoped a grand jury would vote for an indictment.

“That doesn’t necessarily mean a conviction, but it should mean an indictment that allows the facts to be aired in a public trial,” he said. “When unarmed black men are killed by police officers, we need public trials to help restore confidence in the criminal justice system.”




http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/06/nyregion/brooklyn-grand-jury-to-examine-akai-gurley-shooting-death.html?_r=0

This guy wasn't breaking the law, didn't have any police orders to comply with...he was just walking in his apartment building.


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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: Nitrous Monkey]
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Nitrous Monkey said:
You know how many unarmed white guys get shot by white cops in Pheonix? Or how many unarmed Mexicans that get shot. Oh yea, you don't because they don't matter apparently. People need to quit the race bullshit. :facepalm:



Umm nobody knows how many unarmed black guys get shot by white cops either, you know why, they don't keep statistics on civilian deaths by cops. Though your is though process is pretty stupid/fucked up, Do you crash strangers' funerals shouting "I TOO HAVE FELT LOSS" or run through a cancer fundraiser going "THERE ARE OTHER DISEASES TOO!"

Of course other lives matter this issue just happens to be at the forefront of attention.


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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: B0b0] * 1
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What about all those with pacemakers?

Officers need training with non-lethal shots... No need to go all COD "BOOM HEADSHOT"

Is someone perceived as dangerous? Shoot them in the legs or arms not their chest or head. (I understand that your chest is a larger target so easier to hit)


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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: Patlal]
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This shit happens everyday. We're only hearing about case after case because of the stupid uproar over Ferguson and the media loves to stir up the drama. Eventually this shit will die away and fade into memory and this shit will keep happening without the media attention it's getting now.

There is NOTHING special going on, except the media stirring up shit.

It doesn't just happen to black people either. It happens to white people as well, but no one gives a shit. It's starting to get ridiculous and is actually starting to piss me off, something that doesn't really happen because I don't pay attention nor care about 'world' events like this.

Also tazers aren't always effective and if I felt in danger for my life, I'd shoot too. There are plenty of people who can function just fine while being tazed and still charge the cop. I wouldn't put my my faith or life in the hands of a tazer if I was a cop just as I wouldn't in normal life. I mean sure if that's all I have at my disposal it's better than nothing, but if my life is in danger, and I have a better option. I'm going to use it.

Tazers are for a step up when the suspect is being non-compliant. They are not for defending your life.


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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: B0b0]
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again tazers are to stop someone that's getting out of hand.  If they are perceived to be an immediate threat they are supposed to use a gun.  If your a cop and I ran from you then once you found me my hand was in my pocket and I pulled it out, you wouldn't reach for a tazer that might not work, your going to get your gun out.


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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: Patlal]
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Here we go again...


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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: B0b0]
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B0b0 said:
Nitrous Monkey said:
You know how many unarmed white guys get shot by white cops in Pheonix? Or how many unarmed Mexicans that get shot. Oh yea, you don't because they don't matter apparently. People need to quit the race bullshit. :facepalm:



Umm nobody knows how many unarmed black guys get shot by white cops either, you know why, they don't keep statistics on civilian deaths by cops. Though your is though process is pretty stupid/fucked up, Do you crash strangers' funerals shouting "I TOO HAVE FELT LOSS" or run through a cancer fundraiser going "THERE ARE OTHER DISEASES TOO!"

Of course other lives matter this issue just happens to be at the forefront of attention.



I don't even know what kinda point you're trying to make with this post


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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: Nitrous Monkey]
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Nitrous Monkey said:
B0b0 said:
Nitrous Monkey said:
You know how many unarmed white guys get shot by white cops in Pheonix? Or how many unarmed Mexicans that get shot. Oh yea, you don't because they don't matter apparently. People need to quit the race bullshit. :facepalm:



Umm nobody knows how many unarmed black guys get shot by white cops either, you know why, they don't keep statistics on civilian deaths by cops. Though your is though process is pretty stupid/fucked up, Do you crash strangers' funerals shouting "I TOO HAVE FELT LOSS" or run through a cancer fundraiser going "THERE ARE OTHER DISEASES TOO!"

Of course other lives matter this issue just happens to be at the forefront of attention.



I don't even know what kinda point you're trying to make with this post



Don't worry about it then.


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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: B0b0]
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Tonight at 11 - straight cop shoots gay, religious cop shoots atheist, straight white male cops shoots (insert minority whiner group here - black LGBT purple unicorn mexican lesbian hippy bicurious hipster. WHATEVER), asian shoots turn signals off her own car as she kamikaze lane changes, muslim shoots bible, shroomerite shoots growery.


:suicide:


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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: JesusIsLord]
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Based on the default theme alone I'd shoot Growery :shrug:

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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: D.M.T]
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D.M.T said:
Based on the default theme alone I'd shoot Growery :shrug:



you racist :rules:


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Re: Another unarmed black guy shot by white cops in Pheonix.... [Re: Patlal]
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