koods said:

Enlil said:

There's zero point in worrying about those things over which we have no control.

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We need to invade the sun.

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morrowasted said:

koods said:

Enlil said:

There's zero point in worrying about those things over which we have no control.

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We need to invade the sun.

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You mean liberate. The sun obviously lacks freedom and that is why portions of it keep trying to escape.

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ShootinD5nukes said:

I work on the "power grid" and a bad solar flare would crush our electrical system.  It's not so much the wires in the air that would make it take so long to repair.  It's the giant transformers inside substations that would break.  Transformers breaking would be the reason we would be sent back to the stone age.  Some transformers(the really big ones) take a year to make.  Just 1 could take a year to build!  Now think about this. 

At a nuclear plant(imaginary one) it might have 10 giant transformers to step the voltage up to transmission voltages(500,000 volts for example) so it can travel very long distances, then it travels in many directions.  Once it gets to where it's going it goes to another substation where 4 transformers step it from 500,000 to 235,000 volts and the line splits in many directions to many different cities.  One line leading from there goes to your city and 10 other cities along it's way.  Each small city it passes has let's say 4 substations each having 2 giant transformers stepping the voltage from 235,000 volts to 14,000 volts which is usable by the small pole mounted transformers. 

Back to what I was saying, some transformers take a year to make and just now I described a fake line that has around 100 giant transformers.  I would say a normal power plant has 1000s of giant transformers along it's lines to your house.  Let's just say the Turkey point power plant we use in South Florida has 1000 giant transformers.  So just to keep Miami on and the surrounding areas we need 1000s transformers built to get us back online. 

It would be years and years before just South Florida would be back on if every transformer manufacture in the world was building transformers for just us and no one else.  Think about how long it would take to get America on if we had a direct hit from a bad ass solar flare?  We're fucked

On the good side of things I believe we have government organizations that watch for solar flares and will notify power companies to shut down if they think one my hit and cripple the electrical system.  For reasons I don't know off hand if no electricity is flowing through lines the solar flare wouldn't hurt it at all.  So if a flare was going to hit and Turkey Point nuclear facility shut down our electrical system would be undamaged.

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PsyDragon said:

Is the true threat from the sun to the power grid solar flares, or rather, is it a large coronal mass ejection? I thought it was the latter. Here's hoping that big sunspot doesn't produce a CME, now...

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Distorted Vision said:

People that worry about this stuff is stupid. There are millions of other ways that we will actually die from.

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ShootinD5nukes said:

I work on the "power grid" and a bad solar flare would crush our electrical system.  It's not so much the wires in the air that would make it take so long to repair.  It's the giant transformers inside substations that would break.  Transformers breaking would be the reason we would be sent back to the stone age.  Some transformers(the really big ones) take a year to make.  Just 1 could take a year to build!  Now think about this. 

At a nuclear plant(imaginary one) it might have 10 giant transformers to step the voltage up to transmission voltages(500,000 volts for example) so it can travel very long distances, then it travels in many directions.  Once it gets to where it's going it goes to another substation where 4 transformers step it from 500,000 to 235,000 volts and the line splits in many directions to many different cities.  One line leading from there goes to your city and 10 other cities along it's way.  Each small city it passes has let's say 4 substations each having 2 giant transformers stepping the voltage from 235,000 volts to 14,000 volts which is usable by the small pole mounted transformers. 

Back to what I was saying, some transformers take a year to make and just now I described a fake line that has around 100 giant transformers.  I would say a normal power plant has 1000s of giant transformers along it's lines to your house.  Let's just say the Turkey point power plant we use in South Florida has 1000 giant transformers.  So just to keep Miami on and the surrounding areas we need 1000s transformers built to get us back online. 

It would be years and years before just South Florida would be back on if every transformer manufacture in the world was building transformers for just us and no one else.  Think about how long it would take to get America on if we had a direct hit from a bad ass solar flare?  We're fucked

On the good side of things I believe we have government organizations that watch for solar flares and will notify power companies to shut down if they think one my hit and cripple the electrical system.  For reasons I don't know off hand if no electricity is flowing through lines the solar flare wouldn't hurt it at all.  So if a flare was going to hit and Turkey Point nuclear facility shut down our electrical system would be undamaged.

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Khii Khwaay said:

So, let me get this straight. What you're saying here is that, when it comes to transformers, there's more than meets the eye?

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ShootinD5nukes said:

Khii Khwaay said:

So, let me get this straight. What you're saying here is that, when it comes to transformers, there's more than meets the eye?

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I'm unsure of what you mean or if your just being sarcastic.

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ShootinD5nukes said:

Really you don't need power to make them.  All a transformer is, is rolled copper around an iron core.  When they make them people make them not machines. 

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ShootinD5nukes said:

Really you don't need power to make them.

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