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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: PsyDragon]
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ColorDragon said:
How is providing roads and bridges and transportation infrastructure for registered business any less 'socialist' than providing infrastructure of healthcare and basic necessity for citizens? How can one be a function of government and not the other?


Free enterprise provides healthcare more efficiently than the state also universal healthcare is ridiculously unconstitutional.


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Socialism is state controlled means of production.

They don't control the means, only regulate the private businesses that do.

That's capitalism, crony capitalism at best if you're smart enough to realize the insurance industry helped write the law.


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: PsyDragon]
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ColorDragon said:
How is providing roads and bridges and transportation infrastructure for registered business any less 'socialist' than providing infrastructure of healthcare and basic necessity for citizens? How can one be a function of government and not the other?


:popcorn:


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: PsyDragon]
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ColorDragon said:
How is providing roads and bridges and transportation infrastructure for registered business any less 'socialist' than providing infrastructure of healthcare and basic necessity for citizens? How can one be a function of government and not the other?


For one thing the federal involvement in roads and bridges was sold as a national security/defense issue.  National defense is an existential feature of all nations.  Health, food and housing are fully taken care of by the private sector except for losers who suck at the government tit.  Are you really incapable of seeing the difference?  Do you advocate that the government force private citizens to provide those services for loser bum failures?


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: Citizen X]
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The Ecstatic said:
Socialism is state controlled means of production.

They don't control the means, only regulate the private businesses that do.

That's capitalism, crony capitalism at best if you're smart enough to realize the insurance industry helped write the law.



There is nothing capitalist about it.  Crony capitalism is a made up label by leftards in order to slander capitalism.  If it has a crony it isn't capitalist,  I refuse to yield the language to retards


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: Citizen X]
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Citizen X said:
The Ecstatic said:
Socialism is state controlled means of production.

They don't control the means, only regulate the private businesses that do.

That's capitalism, crony capitalism at best if you're smart enough to realize the insurance industry helped write the law.






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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
The Ecstatic said:
Socialism is state controlled means of production.

They don't control the means, only regulate the private businesses that do.

That's capitalism, crony capitalism at best if you're smart enough to realize the insurance industry helped write the law.



There is nothing capitalist about it.  Crony capitalism is a made up label by leftards in order to slander capitalism.  If it has a crony it isn't capitalist,  I refuse to yield the language to retards


says the guy who doesn't know what socialism is.


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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Socialism is the tit.  Get off it


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
ColorDragon said:
How is providing roads and bridges and transportation infrastructure for registered business any less 'socialist' than providing infrastructure of healthcare and basic necessity for citizens? How can one be a function of government and not the other?


For one thing the federal involvement in roads and bridges was sold as a national security/defense issue.  National defense is an existential feature of all nations.  Health, food and housing are fully taken care of by the private sector except for losers who suck at the government tit.  Are you really incapable of seeing the difference?  Do you advocate that the government force private citizens to provide those services for loser bum failures?


I've seen bums on public roads. That's not socialism?


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: zappaisgod]
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Socialism is an economic philosophy, not a catch-all for everything you hate about the world.


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Socialism is an economic philosophy, not a catch-all for everything you hate about the world.


:facepalm:


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Socialism Definition
dictionary.search.yahoo.com
n. noun

Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved.

Does the U.S. Centralized government own healthcare?


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: Citizen X] * 1
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Citizen X said:
Socialism Definition
dictionary.search.yahoo.com
n. noun

Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved.

Does the U.S. Centralized government own healthcare?



one of a dozen narrow definitions


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: Citizen X]
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Car insurance in the US is "socialist" too, the government punishes you if you drive a car without having purchased insurance from a private company. :cookiemonster:

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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: psi]
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Lets call what the US has Possibilitist - it could be this or that, but its actually somewhat strangely unique historically.


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Citizen X said:
Socialism Definition
dictionary.search.yahoo.com
n. noun

Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved.

Does the U.S. Centralized government own healthcare?



one of a dozen narrow definitions


But does the US centralized government own healthcare?


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: Citizen X]
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Citizen X said:
Prisoner#1 said:
Citizen X said:
Socialism Definition
dictionary.search.yahoo.com
n. noun

Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved.

Does the U.S. Centralized government own healthcare?



one of a dozen narrow definitions


But does the US centralized government own healthcare?



Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy, as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.


socialism
[soh-shuh-liz-uh m]

    Examples
    Word Origin

noun
1.
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2.
procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3.
(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: Citizen X]
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Citizen X said:
zappaisgod said:
ColorDragon said:
How is providing roads and bridges and transportation infrastructure for registered business any less 'socialist' than providing infrastructure of healthcare and basic necessity for citizens? How can one be a function of government and not the other?


For one thing the federal involvement in roads and bridges was sold as a national security/defense issue.  National defense is an existential feature of all nations.  Health, food and housing are fully taken care of by the private sector except for losers who suck at the government tit.  Are you really incapable of seeing the difference?  Do you advocate that the government force private citizens to provide those services for loser bum failures?


I've seen bums on public roads. That's not socialism?


Why didn't you run them over? 

Are you incapable of following a point or do you think that federal government is the only government.  The Interstate highway system was sold as a defense project or it never would have passed.  All other road projects are state or local.  Are your really going to repeat the same idiot argument that any government is socialist?


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Socialism is an economic philosophy, not a catch-all for everything you hate about the world.


Exactly right.  I also abhor religion but most particularly repressive religions (cough Islam)


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Re: Obama Salutes Marines Like a Boss with Coffee Cup in Hand ---->Conservative Outrage Ensues (moved) [Re: psi]
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psi said:
Car insurance in the US is "socialist" too, the government punishes you if you drive a car without having purchased insurance from a private company. :cookiemonster:


That isn't true.  You can post a bond in lieu of insurance.  Or not have a car.


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