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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: koods]
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koods said:
It surprises me how many consider active have been completely duped by the oil industry's PR machine.



The IPCC admits there has been no warming for 18 years

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/22/ipcc-railroad-engineer-pachauri-acknowledges-no-warming-for-17-years/

Are we being duped by them as well?


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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
LKets just agree to disagree on this one.




what exactly are you disagreeing on

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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: koods]
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koods said:
It surprises me how many conservatives have been completely duped by the oil industry's PR machine.



You know what doesn't surprise me? That you always make it a left-right thing.

And of course "conservatives" are the ones that are duped. :lmafo:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
LKets just agree to disagree on this one. I'm sure there a grey zone we are all comfortable to be in together despite our drastic differences.

Then again. I just might go back on the 50/50 side of things...

Who knows.



I'll tell you my "grey zone".

I want clean air, water, clean energy, safe food... if for no other reason then it's better.

What I don't want is bullshit to "scare" me into submission.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
Patlal said:
LKets just agree to disagree on this one. I'm sure there a grey zone we are all comfortable to be in together despite our drastic differences.

Then again. I just might go back on the 50/50 side of things...

Who knows.



I'll tell you my "grey zone".

I want clean air, water, clean energy, safe food... if for no other reason then it's better.

What I don't want is bullshit to "scare" me into submission.



Early warning is not scary. Its just what should always happen when we become aware of a potential problem


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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
Listen guys. I used to be just like you guys 2 years ago. I didn't believe shit about global warming. But after reading a shit ton of studies on it, a bunch of videos and reliable source, I have come to the conclusion that's its undeniable at this point.



Oh bullshit you did, you read about the latest IPCC study last year and suddenly had a revelation. I remember the conversation because it was so ridiculous. And you also demonstrated you were absolutely clueless that this mesesage from the IPCC last year is the same message we've been hearing from them since at least the IPCC Third Assessment Report in 2001 when you hilariously said, "It used to be a 50/50 thing that was unproven so people could be either for or against. Now the evidence is overwhelming. I had to completely change my view on the environment 3 weeks ago". :lol: Just admit you're an ignoramus who was easily and immediately swayed on the subject by a political organization (that doesn't even conduct any research nor monitor any data concerning the climate).

Patlal said:
Plus its too fucking easy to just say, its not true!!



Nah, it's too easy to just say, "It is true! Science proved it, corporations need to stop dumping their co2 in the air." It's much more difficult to understand the complexity and inevitability of the status quo. It's also apparently difficult for you to understand that the Green/Cap&Trade industry has a highly self-interested corporate agenda as well. It's even more difficult still apparently to admit you're just as culpable as all the evil corporations. Or did you stop consuming their wares a year ago as well?

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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
luvdemshrooms said:
Patlal said:
LKets just agree to disagree on this one. I'm sure there a grey zone we are all comfortable to be in together despite our drastic differences.

Then again. I just might go back on the 50/50 side of things...

Who knows.



I'll tell you my "grey zone".

I want clean air, water, clean energy, safe food... if for no other reason then it's better.

What I don't want is bullshit to "scare" me into submission.



Early warning is not scary. Its just what should always happen when we become aware of a potential problem




in 1997 al gore said the ice caps would melt by 2007 and all the coastal
regions would be under water. they've now 'repredicted' this to happen by
2050 so excuse me but this all sounds like fear mongering


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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
Early warning is not scary. Its just what should always happen when we become aware of a potential problem



You seem hellbent on missing the point.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
koods said:
It surprises me how many conservatives have been completely duped by the oil industry's PR machine.



You know what doesn't surprise me? That you always make it a left-right thing.

And of course "conservatives" are the ones that are duped. :lmafo:



Global warming denial is a political operation of right wing, libertarian organizations.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: koods]
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starfire_xes said:
They have declared that 'preventing global warming from affecting the United States is their priority' (paraphrased)

But, uh, I guess Islamic Beheadings, like in Oklahoma, a globalist Islamic movement that basically wants to cut the heads off americans and others, or even fry large numbers of US citizens with a nuclear bomb if possible, is not as an important threat.

Fuck, I'm glad we are spending money supporting DHS, I feel much safer knowing that by 2050 they may keep the temperature in the US from not raising 1 degree C.  :smug:

Hey Starfire would it be too much to ask where you're getting your obvious bullshit information?

Thanks in advance







:smirk:




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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
Patlal said:
Early warning is not scary. Its just what should always happen when we become aware of a potential problem



You seem hellbent on missing the point.



You seem hellbent to believe anything but the science. Which is the first problem of the entire conversation. If you refuse to accept the truth, no progress will be made


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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Patlal said:
luvdemshrooms said:
Patlal said:
LKets just agree to disagree on this one. I'm sure there a grey zone we are all comfortable to be in together despite our drastic differences.

Then again. I just might go back on the 50/50 side of things...

Who knows.



I'll tell you my "grey zone".

I want clean air, water, clean energy, safe food... if for no other reason then it's better.

What I don't want is bullshit to "scare" me into submission.



Early warning is not scary. Its just what should always happen when we become aware of a potential problem




in 1997 al gore said the ice caps would melt by 2007 and all the coastal
regions would be under water. they've now 'repredicted' this to happen by
2050 so excuse me but this all sounds like fear mongering





"correlation doesn't mean causation"

True, true.

That's why scientist went out and made thousands of studies to see what's what. Turns out the rise of CO2 does in fact cause climate change. And 97% of them agree based on the several million data points collected to make the studies.


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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: koods]
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koods said:
luvdemshrooms said:
koods said:
It surprises me how many conservatives have been completely duped by the oil industry's PR machine.



You know what doesn't surprise me? That you always make it a left-right thing.

And of course "conservatives" are the ones that are duped. :lmafo:



Global warming denial is a political operation of right wing, libertarian organizations.



There has been no  warming for 18 years  Denying that is a political operation of the left wing moonbats who want to control every facet of our lives.

There is no science here.  The predictions are wrong.  When the predictions are wrong for almost 20 years and you cling to your prediction system you aren't a scientist.  You are a religious cultist.


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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: koods]
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koods said:
luvdemshrooms said:
koods said:
It surprises me how many conservatives have been completely duped by the oil industry's PR machine.



You know what doesn't surprise me? That you always make it a left-right thing.

And of course "conservatives" are the ones that are duped. :lmafo:



Global warming denial is a political operation of right wing, libertarian organizations.



:lmafo:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
luvdemshrooms said:
Patlal said:
Early warning is not scary. Its just what should always happen when we become aware of a potential problem



You seem hellbent on missing the point.



You seem hellbent to believe anything but the science. Which is the first problem of the entire conversation. If you refuse to accept the truth, no progress will be made



:lmafo::lmafo::lmafo:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
And 97% of them agree based on the several million data points collected to make the studies.



Debunked. Repeating a debunked statistic is beyond disingenuous.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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.3° warmer in the last 14 years?


Playing with a graph doesn't prove anything except your lack of understanding about how science actually works.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (09/28/14 12:12 PM)

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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: starfire_xes]
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starfire_xes said:
They have declared that 'preventing global warming from affecting the United States is their priority' (paraphrased)

But, uh, I guess Islamic Beheadings, like in Oklahoma, a globalist Islamic movement that basically wants to cut the heads off americans and others, or even fry large numbers of US citizens with a nuclear bomb if possible, is not as an important threat.

Fuck, I'm glad we are spending money supporting DHS, I feel much safer knowing that by 2050 they may keep the temperature in the US from not raising 1 degree C.  :smug:






:smirk:



Still wondering where you're getting your propaganda from, because I call bullshit  :mmmkay:


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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: koods]
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koods said:
.3° warmer in the last 14 years?


Playing with a graph doesn't prove anything except your lack of understanding about how science actually works.



A. I didn't post a graph.
B. Does your arm hurt from patting yourself on the back?
C. You really are quite full of yourself.

Is "pompous" a flame?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: The Department Of Homeland Security Has Their Priorities Straight.... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Too bad Starfire didn't get on today. I was hoping he would share where gets his information about the DHS!

Sucks! I'm sure it would've an interesting read if it existed.


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