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Starbucks paying for college tuitions * 2
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Starbucks is giving its baristas a shot at an online college degree, an unusual benefit in an industry where higher education is often out of reach for workers.

The coffee chain is partnering with Arizona State University to make an online undergraduate degree available at a steep discount to any of its 135,000 U.S. employees who work at least 20 hours a week.

The program underscores the predicament of many workers who earn low wages, don't have much job security and often hold down more than one job. It also highlights the stark disparities in advancement opportunities between the rich and poor, and how a traditional college education remains a near impossibility for so many.

At an event in New York City on Monday, CEO Howard Schultz told an audience of about 340 Starbucks workers and their guests that the issue was personal because he was the first in his family to attend college.

"I could care less about marketing. This is not about PR," he said of the cynicism he's already encountered about the program.

U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan also appeared on stage to tell the crowd that education has become increasingly crucial to succeed, given the disappearance of blue-collar jobs that pay well. Duncan urged workers to show other companies why they should follow in Starbucks' footsteps.

"Think of the example you can set for the rest of the nation," Duncan said. "If you guys can do this well ... you're going to change the trajectory of the entire country."

Tuition and room and board has climbed over the years, reaching an average of $18,400 last year for local students at public schools, or $40,900 for private universities, according to the College Board. With prices rising, student loan debt has tripled since 2003 and is now the highest form of household debt after mortgages, according to the Federal Reserve Board of New York.

Michael Crow, president of Arizona State University, said college has moved in a direction "where it's all about exclusion" and that public universities need a new approach to making education accessible. He shot down the notion that an online education is an easy way out.

Starbucks Corp., based in Seattle, said it doesn't know how many workers will apply for its prokgram or how much it will cost over time.

One Starbucks employee from Los Angeles, Michael Bojorquez Echeverria, said he works up to 75 hours a week, including at another job, and attends community college at no cost. But he plans to apply for the Starbucks program because he thinks it will offer greater financial security.

He said he will miss is the socializing that comes with attending school in person. "But hey, if they're going to be paying my fees, I can manage," he said.

Zee Lemke, a Starbucks worker and union organizer in Madison, Wisconsin, said she thought the program could benefit some workers. But she also noted the limitations of the program, since the only option is to earn a degree from a single university's online program.

"Actual in-class experience matters," Lemke said.

Starbucks said workers will have the freedom to pick from 40 educational programs. And they won't be required to stay with the company in exchange for their education.

As with most matters involving financial aid, the terms of the Starbucks program are complicated and would vary depending on the worker's situation. For the freshman and sophomore years, students would pay a greatly reduced tuition after factoring in a scholarship from Starbucks and ASU and financial aid, such as Pell grants.

It would work in much the same way for the junior and senior years, except that Starbucks would reimburse any money that workers pay out of pocket.

That means employees who already have two years of college under their belts would be able to finish school at no cost.

Online tuition at ASU can vary but is about $10,000 a year. Most Starbucks workers would likely qualify for a Pell grant, which can be as high as $5,730 a year. Starbucks did not say how much money it is contributing to the scholarship it's providing with ASU.

Arizona State University's online program, which already has an enrollment of more than 10,000, stands to benefit from the students Starbucks will send its way.

There have been other efforts at offering low-wage workers education benefits. In 2010, Wal-Mart Stores Inc. started offering partial tuition grants for workers at American Public University, a for-profit, online school.

Starbucks also already has program that reimburses workers for up to $1,000 a year at City University of Seattle or at Strayer University. The company said that will be phased out by 2015 in favor of the new program.

Workers would have to meet the same admission standards as other ASU students. Only workers at Starbucks' 8,200 company-operated stores would be eligible. Another 4,500 Starbucks locations are operated by franchisees.

The program is also available to Starbucks' other chains, including Teavana tea shops and Seattle's Best.

———ABC News


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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: nicechrisman] * 1
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I know it's kinda a long article, but really? Nobody thinks this is pretty fucking awesome?


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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: nicechrisman]
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Starbucks is the shit. Doesn't surprise me they'd do something like this.


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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: whatsgrimace]
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It kinda shoots some big holes into certain types of economic theories to think that a company can do this and continue to be successful.


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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: nicechrisman]
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Starbucks will stay successful because they're such a big name and their coffee is great.


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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: whatsgrimace]
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I'm honestly much more likely to buy my coffee there now that I know they are doing this. I've heard about other good things they do, but this is really a pretty fucking big deal. They've earned my respect. I'm generally one to support smaller businesses in hopes of keeping more money in the local economy, but when a large company does something really awesome, then they deserve my business.


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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: nicechrisman]
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Starbucks are a bunch of greenwashing phonies. I hate those fuckers. I have never, and will never go to starbucks.

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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: underfliptown] * 1
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I think this is definitely a step in the right direction!

The masses need to learn how to move money around more effectively to enrich as many lives as possible.

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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: nicechrisman]
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I don't buy coffee there because of the high prices and the stupid size names they try to make you say, but good for them I suppose.

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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: psi]
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I'm no fan of their elitist sizing system either


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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: nicechrisman] * 1
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I'm not a starbucks drinker, but this is is a good program to offer.

I think more companies are realizing the best way to get employees to go above and beyond for the company, is to go above and beyond in treating employees well.:thumbup:

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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said:
I'm no fan of their elitist sizing system either



Yeah I don't go to SBs anymore but when I did that was always confusing. I think "Venti" was the size I usually went for.


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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: whatsgrimace] * 1
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"I'd like a coffee please, a coffee"


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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: underfliptown]
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underfliptown said:
Starbucks are a bunch of greenwashing phonies.



I'm torn on this issue.  I'm a supporter of education, but this certainly has a profit motive.

The cost to deliver courses "online" is effectively nothing.

So they pitch the "discounted" courses to employees, and simply increase volume, which profits nicely for both the college and Starbucks.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: badchad]
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badchad said:
underfliptown said:
Starbucks are a bunch of greenwashing phonies.



I'm torn on this issue.  I'm a supporter of education, but this certainly has a profit motive.

The cost to deliver courses "online" is effectively nothing.

So they pitch the "discounted" courses to employees, and simply increase volume, which profits nicely for both the college and Starbucks.



Of course it is profit driven, good publicity, probably better efficiency from grateful employees.

At the end of the day, they are providing a huge benefit to their employees that other comparable employers dont offer.

Whats wrong with that?

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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: EdibleStereos]
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EdibleStereos said:
Whats wrong with that?



Nothing really.  Some people see college as a "scam" whereby kids are plunged into debt for only a minimally increased chance at a job.

If you think that, one might see this as a way of further exploiting presumably young kids already working for peanuts at the mega-corps of Starbucks.

Personally, I don't particularly care if some kid enslaves themself into debt to get an art degree.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Starbucks paying for college tuitions [Re: badchad]
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badchad said:
EdibleStereos said:
Whats wrong with that?



Nothing really.  Some people see college as a "scam" whereby kids are plunged into debt for only a minimally increased chance at a job.

If you think that, one might see this as a way of further exploiting presumably young kids already working for peanuts at the mega-corps of Starbucks.

Personally, I don't particularly care if some kid enslaves themself into debt to get an art degree.




Yes the education system in america is becoming a money grab.

But this isnt mandatory, employees have the option.

an option they didnt have before, and to me, more options means more freedom.

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