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Offlinewingnutx
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Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990)
    #2005246 - 10/13/03 02:38 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)



The source for this infomation comes from the Stockholm International Peace Research Insitute at SIPRI.org.

http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/Trnd_Ind_IRQ_Imps_73-02.pdf


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Re: Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990) [Re: wingnutx]
    #2005269 - 10/13/03 02:48 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not too swift in the brains department.

What does this have to do with anything?





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Re: Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990) [Re: Learyfan]
    #2005278 - 10/13/03 02:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I just thought it was interesting, especially since various inaccurate figures on the subject get tossed around periodically.



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Re: Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990) [Re: wingnutx]
    #2005279 - 10/13/03 02:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

...? i dont see the significance?


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Re: Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990) [Re: wingnutx]
    #2005281 - 10/13/03 02:55 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

er, wait.

wow i didnt even read the fucking key, god im so dumb.

kind of interesting.


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Re: Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990) [Re: wingnutx]
    #2005284 - 10/13/03 02:57 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The US takes 1%....


anthrax and other assorted fun stuff.


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Re: Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990) [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #2005290 - 10/13/03 03:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The anthrax wouldn't even be on the chart, being a veterinary supply not a weapon.



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Re: Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990) [Re: ]
    #2005294 - 10/13/03 03:01 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Kind of interesting to see the Poles and Czechs on there, since they have had troops there since the beginning.

I'm guessing that they sold mostly small arms.


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Re: Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990) [Re: wingnutx]
    #2005300 - 10/13/03 03:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

no wonder the US doesn't have a higher percentage.


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Re: Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990) [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #2005324 - 10/13/03 03:15 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

It wouldn't even register. You see, anthrax GROWS. They didn't buy the 8500 liters that they declared, they bought a veterinary sample and then grew the rest out of that.



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Re: Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990) [Re: wingnutx]
    #2005460 - 10/13/03 03:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The significance is that the US wasn't "supporting Saddam" by sending him "tons" of "wmd"'s. That statement, that floats around on the board frequently, is, as shown by things we "conservatives" call "FACTS" (www.dictionary.com for those of you who've never dealt with this unfamiliary term) to be wildly exaggerated.

As for the anthrax, I'm sure that, if 'we' did sell them "weapons grade" anthrax, it wasn't from a vet supply house. Most of them don't carry mill-ground, aerosol treated anthrax. I'm not sure exactly how they obtained those figures, but I'd bet on the majority of the weapons-grade bio/chemical weapons coming from the USSR, rather than the US. I can't think of any reason we would sell bio/chem weapons, tho I may be wrong.


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Re: Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990) [Re: lysergic]
    #2005553 - 10/13/03 04:26 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Iraq got veterinary anthrax cultures from (i believe) the University of Michigan.

The weaponized stuff that they declared to the UN was produced locally.



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Re: Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990) [Re: lysergic]
    #2005577 - 10/13/03 04:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Actually it shows that we were "supporting Saddam," just not as much as some other countries.


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Re: Iraqi Weapons Imports (1973-1990) [Re: silversoul7]
    #2005678 - 10/13/03 05:17 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Other officials in Washington declined to comment. But U.S. officials have long acknowledged close military collaboration with Iraq while it was at war with Iran, which Washington viewed as a greater threat.

A 1994 report by the Senate Banking Committee concluded that "the United States provided the government of Iraq with ?dual-use' licensed materials which assisted in the development of Iraqi chemical, biological and missile-system programs.?

This assistance, according to the report, included "chemical warfare-agent precursors; chemical warfare-agent production facility plans and technical drawings; chemical warfare filling equipment; biological warfare-related materials; missile fabrication equipment and missile system guidance equipment.?

Wright said the release of a supplier list containing American companies would embarrass the United States. "It would bring people's attention to something that the Bush administration would rather forget about: that the United States was a supplier state to Saddam Hussein, even after it became clear that he was producing and using chemical weapons,? she said.

At the heart of U.S. and other foreign trade with Iraq in the 1980s were so-called "dual-use? materials, which have both civilian and military applications. Under the new Security Council resolution, Iraq had to account for all its dual-use programs and materials.

The 1994 Senate report found that the United States had licensed dozens of companies to export various materials that helped Iraq make mustard gas, VX nerve agent, anthrax and other biological and chemical weapons. The report also said "the same micro-organisms exported by the United States were identical to those the United Nations inspectors found and recovered from the Iraqi biological warfare program.?

Shipments to Iraq continued even after the United States learned Hussein had used chemical weapons against Iranian troops and Kurdish villagers in northern Iraq in 1988, according to Senate investigators.

The U.S.-Iraqi relationship flourished from February 1986, when then-Vice President George Bush met with Iraq's ambassador to Washington, Nizar Hamdoon, and assured him that Baghdad would be permitted to receive more sophisticated U.S. technology, until the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990. Over that four-year period, the Reagan and Bush administrations approved licenses for the export of more than $600 million worth of advanced American technology to Iraq, according to congressional reports.


http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/12.15A.iraq.us.names.htm





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