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Accidental Ingestion of Big Laughing Gym:
    #2002247 - 10/12/03 12:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

This is taken from an issue of Mycologia:

Walters, M. B. 1965. Pholiota spectabilis, an hallucinogenic mushroom. Mycologia vol. 57:837-838.

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Regarding the last paragraph to this paper is that chemical analysis has also noted the presence of noryangonine and bisnoryangonine in this species now known as Gymnopilus spectabilis. Those compounds are also common in the plant known as Corynatnthe yohimbe (Yohimbe bark).

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Re: Accidental Ingestion of Big Laughing Gym: [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2002577 - 10/12/03 04:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Thats really interesting MJ. You are the man of mushrooms. I love when people find out stuff like that.



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Re: Accidental Ingestion of Big Laughing Gym: [Re: InjectTruth]
    #2003617 - 10/12/03 11:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

So is there psilocin and psylocybin in them also? I have never quite understood this right.


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Re: Accidental Ingestion of Big Laughing Gym: [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2004049 - 10/13/03 01:30 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

At least she had a nice trip. :wink:


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Re: Accidental Ingestion of Big Laughing Gym: [Re: Effed]
    #2004114 - 10/13/03 01:48 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)


If there's no psilocin or psylocybin in them, as it says there's not from my understanding. . . that means they would be legal to possess...


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Re: Accidental Ingestion of Big Laughing Gym: [Re: BioHazard]
    #2004884 - 10/13/03 12:15 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

T%her ehave been reports published which say yes there is psilocybine in them and other s which said that particular species was negative.

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Guzman listed it as positive.

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Re: Accidental Ingestion of Big Laughing Gym: [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2017579 - 10/17/03 12:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

it is generaly speculated taht there are apprecialble levels of the psilocybian compounds in some collections but not in all. i am inclined to agree.


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Re: Accidental Ingestion of Big Laughing Gym: [Re: canid]
    #2017586 - 10/17/03 12:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

my favorite G. spectabilis related article was "Confessions of a Gymnopilus spectabilis eater". i believe it orrigionated on usenet. i forget the author and i have not been able to find a copy of it in quite some time.


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Re: Accidental Ingestion of Big Laughing Gym: [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2019032 - 10/17/03 10:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

MJ this was a very interesting post.  Last year I discovered BLG's in VA.  One of the clusters is pictured under name.  You might recall seeing a few of my posts about these mushrooms last year, as I had many good pics of this shroom, including bluing on younger specimens.  Last year, I ingested them, but didn't get very far... however, they were psychoactive.  This year, just yesterday in fact, I went to the same spot and found them begining to flush.  I picked four good sized Gyms, and ate them as fast as I could chew and swallow 'em, using OJ to cover the taste.  I pulled it off in under 10 MINUTES!  :smile:  (These taste nasty, and you have to eat a lot of shroom material).

Anyway, within 30minutes, the effects started to come on very strong.  For the next few hours, I was manic and uncontrollably LMAO.  The effects were different from regular shrooms... they were more euphoric but less visual.  I wasnt as anxious and freaked out around people as I am on other shrooms, however this effect was still there to some extent.  I didn't expect to trip very hard, after the weaker trips the year previous, but this time they were incredibly strong!  As far as the speculation of whether they contain psilocybin, I would say they do contain it as well as a few different active chemicals which seem to cause more euphoria and mania.  If they don't contain psilocybin, they contain a chemical/chemicals that act almost identical , and if this is the case I would love to find out exactly whats going on with these mushrooms.  They are VERY interesting indeed!

(I did mix GHB and a bit of Klonopin with the dose to take the edge off, however I almost always use these in combination when eating the more popular shrooms.  Also, I haven't tripped for close to a year and that might have had a bit of an effect as far as the euphoria, but I still think something else was going on...)  Oh, I don't recommend eating these mushrooms until more is found out about them, and I would advise AGAINST mixing them with the above drugs, as the above combination in itself can be very dangerous alone and in high amounts.

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Re: Accidental Ingestion of Big Laughing Gym: [Re: bluemoon]
    #2019044 - 10/17/03 10:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

It is not good to take a compound like GHB with any combination of any drugs pharmaceutical or illicit. ANYWAY GLAD YOU ARE OKAY.
HAVE A SHROOMY DAY.. tRY TO STICCK TO THE pSILOCYBE AND cOPELANDIA SPECIES. mUCH MORE SIMPLER.

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Re: Accidental Ingestion of Big Laughing Gym: [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2019079 - 10/17/03 10:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry MJ, I edited my post rigtht after I posted it. I put almost those same warnings in the post as you brought up. Hopefully the edit makes it clear.

Also, when you say to stick with the other species, what do you mean exactly? I'm not one for growing them (paranoia), and I won't buy them from dealers.. I am now living in a state where I can't get my hands on the other species, and have found one type that works for my occasional use. The post was more for showing that this is without a doubt a mushroom of great interest to me because of its diffrerent attributes (possibly chemically related), instead of advising poeple to eat this mushroom without knowing more about it.

I'll say it again folks... don't use GHB with anything else, and preferably never even use GHB. The fact that GHB was used is however is important to know when trying to discuss the real effects of this mushroom compared to others. Therefore, on a 'scientific' level, its an important point for analysis. I might as well also add that I had lithium and provigil in me as well. (kids..don't do this..im not an example..) anywho, hope that clears that up...


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oops double post [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2019095 - 10/17/03 10:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry. double post.


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