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+50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects
    #5858693 - 07/14/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

My last and only experience with HBWR was with an amazing 14 seeds and it was very intense and lasted 4 days.  So I got my HBWR in the post from a different source.  They look right so I chewed 4 of them really well and swallowed it.  After 30 minutes of feeling no effects I proceeded to chew another 4.  I know there are hbwr seeds that are ineffective... I hope this isn't the case.  Why am I having such bad luck?  :mad2:


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5858893 - 07/14/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well these certainly aren't as potent as the ones from JLF those were plain out magical. I just finished chewing 8 seeds bringing my seed count to 30. If I feel nothing in 30 minutes I will take another 30. This will be repeated till I trip or the whole fucking lot of them are gone :P These seeds are from rivers source botanicals btw


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5859238 - 07/14/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

NO

do not take another 30 dude, that's just insane.

they are bunk.

or if they aren't bunk, it's just dangerous. HBWR aren't that good for you, you shouldn't be taking more than 8-12 which would be a very very strong dose, approaching level 5 if they are potent. if you aren't getting effects no fucking way you should take 30, that is just stupid and very unhealthy, perhaps seriously dangerous.

they are not good for your insides to be taking more than 8-12 in the first place lol, let alone 30..... i'd just give up on them, email the source and say you think your product was defective.


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Edited by leery11 (07/14/06 07:19 PM)


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5859276 - 07/14/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

you might be fucked man. 30? the peak isn't like lsd. you got to wait.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: leery11]
    #5859278 - 07/14/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Eeeks


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: palmersc]
    #5859289 - 07/14/06 07:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I do have experience with HBWR my guess is that these are bunk. I ended up downing all 180 seeds (15 grams) over the last 3 hours and 30 minutes. Hopefully I'll end up feeling something but I doubt it.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: palmersc]
    #5859290 - 07/14/06 07:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I got some once, and ate 10, and just got super weak all day.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: distgre1]
    #5859321 - 07/14/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Dude your fucked.. All of my HBWR trips never started until 4-5 hours after i took the seeds...

I would eat 1500mg activated charcoal and drink some ipeacac ASAP.. heh.. funny thing is its probably already absorbed and your gunna end up dead from liver failure... even if they ARE bunk they still have cyanide in em :frown:
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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5859357 - 07/14/06 07:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well i looked at that source, and you bought the shitty seeds.

but 180?

refer to leery's post.

and that one above.


Edited by palmersc (07/14/06 07:40 PM)


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: palmersc]
    #5859388 - 07/14/06 07:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

They have different seeds at that site?!? To which posts are you referring?


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5859404 - 07/14/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

no they only sell the mostly inactive ones.

i'm not sure if you are in any trouble health wise....

damn.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: palmersc]
    #5859419 - 07/14/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Seriously heed my advice.. Im growing worried for you..


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: Weebl8bob]
    #5859443 - 07/14/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

dude if you really ate 180 hbwr i would go to a hospital, assuming they know what to do.

if the other dude is right about charcoal then do what he says.

for me i feel come ons within an hour or so, so i'm guessing a trip wouldn't be an issue with you BUT.... they are very harsh on your insides, cause some weird cramping issues, and for me just eating 6 or 7 leads to quite a bit of pain and cramping.

are you for real that you ate 180? i really think some sort of medical intervention is necessary.

these are HAWAAIN BABY WOODROSE right, and not MORNING GLORY?


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: leery11]
    #5859458 - 07/14/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Sure they weren't morning glories??


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: leery11]
    #5859491 - 07/14/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I truly appreciate your concerns; however I have had no effects good nor ill as of yet. Any bad effects probably would have happened already at 4 hours past first ingestion.

Does anyone have advice on a place to buy really good hbwr? A place that sells HBWR by weight or in good bulk prices is preferred but I'll take anything. Those JLF ones were very strong... I have sampled the "var. fractal strain" from shamanspalace to no effect, suppose I should have just planted them.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: kija]
    #5859511 - 07/14/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

not sure if the cyanogenic glycosides are present in the smooth seeds, but if you start to cramp up and your limbs begin turning bluish, good luck.

but you could be cool.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: palmersc]
    #5859556 - 07/14/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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not sure if the cyanogenic glycosides are present in the smooth seeds, but if you start to cramp up and your limbs begin turning bluish, good luck.

but you could be cool.



there are active HBWRs that don't cause cramping?

and i liked bouncingb's hbwr, they also got to me the next day.

mucho cramping, and strong strong dose after about 6 or 7, not entirely "psychedelic" but well enough for me to think that my foot tapping was some dude hovering outside my window or my neighbor below me, either way knowing that i was on a trip, and the sound kept looping even though i stopped tapping my foot.

freaked me out very bad and had me hiding my room :frown: lol. was having an amazing expanded time before that, but i kind of self-hypnosed myself out of having tripped out visuals because it was just so ..... out there to me.

deja vu! i feel like i've posted this before. this is really strange.


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Edited by leery11 (07/14/06 08:14 PM)


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: leery11]
    #5859585 - 07/14/06 08:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i actually have some from BBB in the mail right now. have yet to try woodrose. damn... i guess it's difficult to avoid the negative side effects.

from what i understand, and what you probably did was scrape the shit off the sides.

but with the smooth ones... they might be safe to eat all day long if the cyanogenic glycosides are really located in the coating.

i guess we'll find out. :crazy:


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: palmersc]
    #5859597 - 07/14/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well i mean, what are the smooth ones?

i didn't scrape them, i just chewed and swallowed.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: leery11]
    #5859627 - 07/14/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

now i've never held these in my hand before, but i've read enough about them to give them a go.

his seeds:

http://www.riverssourcebotanicals.com/view_image.php?image_id=11

what i would presume as good seeds:

http://psychoactiveherbs.com/catalog/images/hawaiian_woodrose_seeds.jpg



i bet the BBB ones look more like the 2nd pic. i'd definitely try scraping the outside of the seed like described in other posts here and see if that helps. i'm hoping it does.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: palmersc]
    #5859653 - 07/14/06 08:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

30? I think you could die, and strongly suggest you go to a hospital or induce vomitting at minimum...

Didnt you research hbwr before taking them?


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: palmersc]
    #5859660 - 07/14/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

www.mothergeckobotanicals.com not as good of prices as the other sites but they are guarenteed good, he is a good friend of mine :-)


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: Weebl8bob]
    #5859704 - 07/14/06 08:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

as far as dosing with minimal naseua you should just chew up your dose and hold it in your mouth, swallowing the juices but not the seed bits (slightly tricky) for about 20-40 minutes. Then simply spit up and throw out the seed bits.

Thanks for the responses re: hbwr sources. Still open to more of course. That 2nd picture looks much like the ones I got from JLF.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5859741 - 07/14/06 09:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Why are you using psychedelics so often? Just the other day you tried peruvian torch and wanted to redose, now you're taking way too many HBWR. Maybe you should wait until you can get something reliable.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5859764 - 07/14/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i bought some hbwr off ebay:
'100 Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds HBWR SEEDS 100 % ORGANIC excelent germination'

germination? whats that about?


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: frostbitten]
    #5859777 - 07/14/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i means they are viable.. you can plant them


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: DrGeek]
    #5859813 - 07/14/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The answer to that is because nothing works...
The peruvian torch at 50 grams was inactive. The seeds at 180 seeds were inactive. The amanitas at 120 grams were comparable to a 7-10 gram B grade trip.

I'm dissapointed to say the least. I had much better experiences in the past with entheogens but lately its all been crap. The last batch of blue lotus, calamus, peruvian torch and HBWR have been a waste of cash... about 100 dollars to be precise.

Based on very extensive and good past experiences I will not be giving up on entheogens. I don't know whats up...


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: distgre1]
    #5859893 - 07/14/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

how many seeds did u take so far?


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: distgre1]
    #5860069 - 07/14/06 10:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

dude what makes you think if they didn't work the first time eating more of bunk shit is going to make it work thats like your car not running and putting more sugar into the gas tank because it didn't work! are you still alive?


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: Calbha]
    #5860101 - 07/14/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

which website did you buy from that had the good ass seeds?


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: kora]
    #5860140 - 07/14/06 10:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

www.jlfcatalog.com

I took 14 seeds and tripped for 4 days, I thought I was never coming down :smile:


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5860159 - 07/14/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

4 days? are you serious? do you mean fully tripping for 4 days or what? can you elaberate a little :smile:


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: kora]
    #5860239 - 07/14/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yea about 3 and a half days of full on tripping and a half day of comedown. While the whole time was not on "the peak" it was very intense. It was very mindfuckish with few visuals. I was able to sleep during this time due to the sedative properties of the drug.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5860277 - 07/14/06 11:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i dont want to flame, but seriously, the only psychedelics expiernece this guy is gonna have is heaven if hes lucky


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: distgre1]
    #5860291 - 07/14/06 11:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You may think that but nothing here was unsafe. Its not like I did it all at once.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5860574 - 07/15/06 01:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

it sounds like your full of shit, and your link to the jlf looks kinda sketch. they sell not only pounds of mimosa bark for like 50$, and claviceps purpurea by the 10lb block, but also psilocybin species of mushrooms. doesnt sound very reliale. more like a fat scam.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5860879 - 07/15/06 06:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I dunno who shoved a stick in your ass or why you haven't taken it out yet. JLF has been around for a long time supplying quality botanicals to the world. My order with them was great and I got many rare plant specimens unavailable anywhere else but the wild. My only complaint with JLF is the long time for the package to arrive and the fact that their material is completely unprepared.
As to why you'd attack my credibility I have no idea. Everything stated by me in this thread is a truism.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5860882 - 07/15/06 06:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Still alive?


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: distgre1]
    #5860958 - 07/15/06 07:21 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

obviously


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: leery11]
    #5861421 - 07/15/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

leery11 said:
and i liked bouncingb's hbwr, they also got to me the next day.

mucho cramping, and strong strong dose after about 6 or 7, not entirely "psychedelic" but well enough for me to think that my foot tapping was some dude hovering outside my window or my neighbor below me, either way knowing that i was on a trip, and the sound kept looping even though i stopped tapping my foot.

freaked me out very bad and had me hiding my room :frown: lol. was having an amazing expanded time before that, but i kind of self-hypnosed myself out of having tripped out visuals because it was just so ..... out there to me.

deja vu! i feel like i've posted this before. this is really strange.




Don't fret! You have indeed posted this before in a report in the Trip Reports sub-forum. A good read I might add, considering I still remember you posting it (it was a long time ago). I laughed out loud at that one, thanks again.  :heart: :thumbup:

Anyway, does anyone else smell a troll?  :thumbdown:


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #5861431 - 07/15/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

smells worse than that.

kinda like undropped balls and burnt crack.


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Re: +50 minutes after ingestion of 8 hbwr and no effects [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5862095 - 07/15/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

and yes they do have big laughing gyms in their catalog. A psilocybin containing mushroom that is also packed with something similar to kava kava. It makes for a very mellow trip, much less anxiety than normal.
The bad part about JLF is the long time before the package arrived, it took somewhere between a month or two to receive my order. It could have been because something was out of stock or whatever but they should have contacted me. Of course your mileage re:shipping time may vary.

SoD- I do not know why rare and exotic specimens from around the globe and good prices turn you off, but to the rest of the shroomery I would highly reccommend them if you have the time to wait for your shipment.


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