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Laughing Gym is not psychoactive in California?
    #6503887 - 01/28/07 03:34 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

This is just what i was told. Even then the person that told me didn't say he was 100% sure. He said that the laughing gym would not get you high here in California but over in certain parts of Asia it has psychoactive properties.

Could he be mistaking this mushroom for another?


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Re: Laughing Gym is not psychoactive in California? [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6504104 - 01/28/07 05:34 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

huh?


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Re: Laughing Gym is not psychoactive in California? [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6504114 - 01/28/07 05:41 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I would think that he is mistaken.. but I'm no expert...


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Re: Laughing Gym is not psychoactive in California? [Re: Nalim]
    #6504198 - 01/28/07 07:07 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Do you mean Laughing Gas?


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Re: Laughing Gym is not psychoactive in California? [Re: Bloodhound]
    #6504213 - 01/28/07 07:17 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

No he means (Big) Laughing Gym or Gymnopilus spectabilis
a psychoactive fungi...
It is active wherever you find it.. It is weaker than cubes though(cubes are about 4 times stronger according to what I've read)..


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Re: Laughing Gym is not psychoactive in California? [Re: Nalim]
    #6504224 - 01/28/07 07:29 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks Nast. Do you have any idea what mushroom he could of mistaken this for? I have heard about mushrooms that are active in one part of the world but inactive in other parts. Do you know any of which i am talking about?


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Re: Laughing Gym is not psychoactive in California? [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6504238 - 01/28/07 07:43 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

OK i see where my friend gets his info from now.

Mushrooms Demystified.
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Gymnopilius spectabilis
EDIBILITY:

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Inedible due to the bitter taste. Forms in Asia and eastern North America apparently contain psilocybin and/or psilocin and are hallucinogenic(hence the Japaneese name, "Big Laughing Mushroom"). On the west coast, however, it is apparently "inactive".......






Is there anyone out there in California or the North American west coast who can prove this wrong? I don't know why location would have anything to do with potency or the activity of this hallucinogenic mushroom, but apparently it does.


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Re: Laughing Gym is not psychoactive in California? [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6504247 - 01/28/07 07:53 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I know there are some lookalikes to Gymnopilus spectabilis.. Some of them are poisonous(Galerina sp.)...

It can also be mistaken for Armillaria mellea which is an edible..

There has been some threads about this earlier:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Forum1&Number=2002247

Seems to be a very weak shroom.. Could be variations between sub-strains and also from environmental factors(substrate and when they are gathered) that changes its already low concentration of active substances. This could make some patches or flushes worthless for recreational purposes.


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Re: Laughing Gym is not psychoactive in California? [Re: Nalim]
    #6504296 - 01/28/07 08:44 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Nast:
Seems to be a very weak shroom.




Here is a quote directly from the link to the thread you just posted.


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Anyway, within 30minutes, the effects started to come on very strong. For the next few hours, I was manic and uncontrollably LMAO. The effects were different from regular shrooms... they were more euphoric but less visual. I wasnt as anxious and freaked out around people as I am on other shrooms, however this effect was still there to some extent. I didn't expect to trip very hard, after the weaker trips the year previous, but this time they were incredibly strong!




Here is more David Arora in Mushrooms Demystified, same page. 410

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An Ohio woman had an unforgettable experience after inadvertently nibbling on one. She found herself i an alien world of fantastic shapes and glorious colors, and while concerned friends were rushing her to the hospital, she was heard to mutter "If this is the way you die from mushroom poisoning, then I all for it..."




From the testimony i read on the shroomery, and in my books, i would not say that this is "be a very weak shroom".

Also i don't know why there would be so many reports of the mushroom on the east coast, but not on the west?


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Re: Laughing Gym is not psychoactive in California? [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6504328 - 01/28/07 09:18 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, it seems there is variance in the psychoactivity in G. spectabilis. I know one person who found them in texas, they were definitely psychoactive (they also bruised green). I've also heard reports that they are not psychoactive in other parts of the [US in particular]. I also know someone who found many different varieties of Gymnopolis in Japan, with no psychoactivity reported.
There may be variance within the specie G. spectabilis. On the other hand, there are more than 30 species of Gymnopolis that look alike macroscopically (according to Lincoff).
Personally, I put this one with Panneaolina species in which some report to be mildly psychoactive (more likely to be misidentified from it's close relative P. subbalteatus).
However, I have not read a report where the Gym. in question bruises green and is not psychoactive.


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Re: Laughing Gym is not psychoactive in California? [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #6505139 - 01/28/07 04:23 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the info. I would imagine if it were psychoactive then there would be no bruising going on. The bruising is to show the degraded or oxidization of psilocin within the mushroom. Psilocin gets us high. If is bruises blue and green..... then theoretically it should get us high.

I don't know of any psilocybe mushroom that bruises blue-green but are not psychoactive.


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Re: Laughing Gym is not psychoactive in California? [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6531630 - 02/04/07 11:04 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

David Arora lives in San Francisco is was told. If he claims that it is active on the east coast and other countries and not active in the Pacific North-West then i think he should know. He lives in the PNW, just on the edge. He should have heard about some claim that it was psychoactive if he lives in this area.

I live just below SF and i have never heard a report of a psychoactive Gym.


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