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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: psi]
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When they are older black people are either dead or in prison.

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
But race does not equal culture.




I don't think I indicated otherwise, or even mentioned race in this thread.

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cul·ture
noun \ˈkəl-chər\

: the beliefs, customs, arts, etc., of a particular society, group, place, or time

: a particular society that has its own beliefs, ways of life, art, etc.

: a way of thinking, behaving, or working that exists in a place or organization (such as a business)




Sure, people can bring parts of their culture and blend them in. But I've found in America, for the most part, many people who come here adopt to the American way of doing things. And our lack of culture.




Some immigrants assimilate more than others for sure. The comparison was between China and North America though, not China and the US. I would say that across the entire continent of North America there are quite a few different cultures that people are active participants in, even if there is a lot of assimilation going on. I would not be surprised at all if the overall number was greater than the number of distinct cultures within China.

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Race does not directly link to culture, although they can be related.. they are not intrinsically tied together. A single culture can be comprised of many different races. Yes, America is a great big melting pot of races - and we have no shortage of diverse foods because of it. But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the CULTURE.. the arts, customs, beliefs, ways of living.  Most people who come here eventually adopt to the mainstream American lifestyle, which has a distinct lack of culture, IMHO.

Yeah there are some great things about American culture few and far between but when I overall compare them to countries like Japan or many Euro countries I almost have a disgust for our media machine, war-mongering, materialistic and shallow "culture". Many people who live here don't even have basic knowledge of world events or history, many people live inside their little bubbles. Hell, most Americans don't even know OUR OWN history. That is a symptom of our culture. Where in other places, there can be very deep and extremely rich tradition and history.. and the people embrace their culture. After coming back from Japan I was almost ashamed to be part of this one, it's become a bit of a joke. Sure Japan and China are not without their own faults... but if we are comparing cultures.. there is no comparison IMO. Our "culture" is one of a Starbucks and a Mcdonalds on every block in between strip malls, boring architecture and McMansions.



I agree with some of your criticisms of mainstream American culture, but again I never indicated that I thought culture was the same thing as race.

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: psi]
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I must have misunderstood you then.. because I thought you were equating races with culture based on this:

psi said:
Shroomism said:
That's just fact...
There's more culture in most places in the world than America...
I say that as an American who was born and raised in America.



I grew up in a major North American city and there are people from a fuck of a lot of different countries including China.



Oh wells. No harm no foul. I'm just saying while there is American/North American cultures, I think Asante was pretty spot on that China has more culture than the US, I think the same could be said for a lot of countries.

Although Chinese culture nowadays makes me pretty sick. I've seen too many Liveleak videos.... and people getting hit by car or assaulted in the middle of a busy street and people just walk by or stand there and do NOTHING. That's kind of part of their culture too it seems. Saw one video where a guy was chasing this other guy around, repeatedly stabbing this guy for over 5-10 minutes.. in the middle of a super busy and crowded place. Hundreds of people just walked by, some people stood around watching.. no one helped. That's a common theme :sad:

But culture still runs deep there.. I think that non caring thing has partly to do with their laws. Something about if you render aid to someone in need.. you can be held responsible for their medical bills or some crazy nonsense.


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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: Shroomism]
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If anything I'd think that could be seen as equating national origin with culture (which would also be an oversimplification obviously since there are also multiple cultures within those other countries). Race is kind of a big jump from that though IMO.

Obviously not everyone of a given national origin continues participating in their original culture after moving to another country, but many do retain at least some of their traditions through subsequent generations.

Probably you are right that China does have stronger and richer cultural traditions than much of North America though. For sheer number of different cultures I think North America probably wins out.

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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Basing people on the color of their skin to determine how "happy" they are?

Logic wins again!!

Wait.......

Wrong thread. ABANDON SHIP!!!!!!!!  :runaway:

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: Shroomism]
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american education is pretty dumb

any mention of what happened in the last 70 years goes past the curriculem

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: Shroomism]
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Sometimes I think the media purposely portrays places like China, Russia, and N Korea as being more fucked up then they really are. It's so hard to know because almost all of our info is first filtered through our media propaganda machine. When I was traveling Thailand and met other travelers who had traveled in China, they didn't seem to have the same feelings about China as many people here in the US do. Of course there is the issue of only showing tourists the face you want them to see, but my understanding is that they have loosened up a lot in that regard.


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it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

John C. Lily

 

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
many people who come here adopt to the American way of doing things. And our lack of culture.



correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems as though you're implying that America lacks culture simply because our way of life is not similar to other parts of the world... again, please correct me if I'm wrong

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: bass head]
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bass head said:
Shroomism said:
many people who come here adopt to the American way of doing things. And our lack of culture.



correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems as though you're implying that America lacks culture simply because our way of life is not similar to other parts of the world... again, please correct me if I'm wrong



I think he's implying that we have a more shallow culture. Have you traveled much?


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"Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent:
it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

John C. Lily

 

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: nicechrisman]
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If happiness is directly correlated to penis size, then yes blacks are much happier than Asians. :penis:

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said:
Sometimes I think the media purposely portrays places like China, Russia, and N Korea as being more fucked up then they really are. It's so hard to know because almost all of our info is first filtered through our media propaganda machine. When I was traveling Thailand and met other travelers who had traveled in China, they didn't seem to have the same feelings about China as many people here in the US do. Of course there is the issue of only showing tourists the face you want them to see, but my understanding is that they have loosened up a lot in that regard.



I'm not talking about mainstream media. I'm talking about dash cams, cell phone videos, CCV, amateur videos you find on liveleak. The shit you will not see in mainstream media. If you want I can probably dig up 50 examples of what I was talking about. I don't even watch any mainstream media.

Here's a few examples of exactly what I am talking about, tell me how many people you see helping.

WARNING: MAY BE EXTREMELY DISTURBING TO SOME PEOPLE - DO NOT CLICK IF YOU ARE SQUEEMISH
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=278_1351380411
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=69c_1400239652
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=efb_1397363201
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7c5_1357549050
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fd8_1360240831
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1ff_1337103958
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d0e_1366755731
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fac_1354032148
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9e5_1313855102



Tell me that's just how the media portrays them..... it's reality unfortunately. These are all amateur videos.
Now I'm not saying that everyone in China is completely heartless and cold. But this is a VERY common theme from hundreds of videos I have seen. Someone getting stabbed to death in the middle of a busy street while people just walk by or watch.

Now if you watch these same types of videos from Russia. People will usually all pull over and rush out to help anyone in need.
Russia may get a bad rap from the mainstream media, but from watching Liveleak videos I have a TON of respect for Russians.


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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: Magicman69]
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I've traveled a fair amount.  You appear to be comparing one culture with another one.  Sure, if you go to Asia or India it will seem like they're unique and possess what you consider culture.  But I would imagine that if someone from a foreign country came to America, they would tell the people back home that we possess culture.

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: bass head]
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In my backpack traveling, I met many travelers from around the world, but very few Americans. Most of them had an equally dim view of American "culture". And don't even get me started about how alarmed they were about our lack of modern health coverage.

I was also very surprised how many good things people had to say about their journeys in China. I still don't place it anywhere near the top of my potential travel destinations list, but it kinda made me rethink what I have been taught to believe about it.


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"Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent:
it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

John C. Lily

 

Edited by nicechrisman (05/19/14 11:04 PM)

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: Shroomism]
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That's no child abuser, that is a strong independent woman.

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: Shroomism]
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Yeah Shroomism it is true Asians particularly Chinese and Japanese tend to stick to themselves. It's pretty much embodied in their culture from the moment they are born.

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: Uzziel]
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It goes deeper than that though, I have heard reports (not sure if true), that in China, if you render aid to someone who was in a car accident and laying on the street bleeding out, or someone who is getting stabbed in the middle of the street.. you can be held responsible for all their medical bills. So that could explain a large part of why so many people are so reluctant to help their fellow humans. I don't think the same could be said of Japanese really. They may stick to themselves but they will usually help someone in need. Russians as well. They get a lot of bad press in the media, but almost every dashcam video I see of a car accident in russia (there are millions), everyone pulls over and gets out to help. I think it's the law there, that if you witness an accident you have to stop and help. The same can be said of Russian attacks, I've seen a lot of videos from Russia where someone is getting mauled or attacked in the street and people rush over to help them. That's not the case in 90% of chinese videos I've seen.


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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: Shroomism]
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Also in many cultures, things like first aid and CPR aren't commonly taught to the general public.


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"Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent:
it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

John C. Lily

 

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: Shroomism]
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Well I have no knowledge of any of that (I don't know shit about the details of their inner culture) but I do know they are pretty bad about that. That is why they have so many public raping and people do nothing about it as well.

It's pretty fucked. I don't know how they live with themselves just being able to watch people get stabbed or raped and just watch and act like nothing is happening.

Wtf.....

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: Uzziel]
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Uzziel said:
Yeah Shroomism it is true Asians particularly Chinese and Japanese tend to stick to themselves. It's pretty much embodied in their culture from the moment they are born.



i think Leary would refer to that as "programming".  the culture dictates the actions and behaviors of the individual.  why imply that humans are a product of their environment?  they aren't.  deep down in every one of those sheltered Asians is a powerful and expressive soul that is rarely allowed to behave in the way that they wish to.

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Re: Are black people happier then asians? [Re: bass head]
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bass head said:
Uzziel said:
Yeah Shroomism it is true Asians particularly Chinese and Japanese tend to stick to themselves. It's pretty much embodied in their culture from the moment they are born.



i think Leary would refer to that as "programming".  the culture dictates the actions and behaviors of the individual.  why imply that humans are a product of their environment?  they aren't.  deep down in every one of those sheltered Asians is a powerful and expressive soul that is rarely allowed to behave in the way that they wish to.



Many Japanese people actually have REALLY freaky fetishes and stuff like that in their personal lives.


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"Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent:
it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

John C. Lily

 

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