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Good PH-Range for Trichos?
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Hi all,

Does anyone know what the ideal ph-range for Trichos in soil is?
My tap water ist a bit alkaline (7.2 -7.6 ph) and i thought it is a bit high.
For Weed in soil we know 6.5 ph is a good value but is it the same for Trichos or do they like it more acidly?

If i have to lower the ph what kind of acid would be best?
Nitric acid (increases N level in water) or Phosphoric acid (increases P level in water).
I would assume that Phosphoric acid is better because to much N is not so good for Trichos but i am not sure.

Please share your opinions.

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Re: Good PH-Range for Trichos? [Re: tbrid]
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6.3 to 7 would be the norm. There's probably an ideal range for them, I don't know it or pay too much attention to pH, but you'd want it to be around neutral. Which your water kind of is....

If you're using a store bought soil then chances are pH will be ok for plants to take up nutrients. Once the water goes in it will adjust to the soil pH and should be fine.

If you want to lower pH, you use Phosphoric acid. Same stuff they use to lower pH in fizzy drinks.

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Re: Good PH-Range for Trichos? [Re: karode13]
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Thank you very much.
Good to know that my water ph is not much off the mark.

My soil is a mix of 2 parts normal Catci soil from a store 1 part gravel (2-5mm) and 1 part pumice (2-5mm).
A look on the Catic soil bag shows a ph 5.6-6.4 PH, hmmmm a bit low.....
I'll have to check the ph in the drainage after watering to know how my soil mix will affect the ph before i can start to adjust the ph.

Because i got not many answers i was searching the web in the mean time and found a link on an other cacti forum about the soil in Ecuador which covers a pretty wide PH range.

Quote:
Soils
The extremely variable topography of the country is associated with a complex mosaic of soils.

The Coastal littoral, located between the Pacific Ocean and the western Andes possesses an abundance of hydromorphic soils particularly in the well-watered parts, which have moderate to low drainage, and moderate fertility. It contains soils derived from deposits of diverse origins influenced by volcanic activity of the Andes, aeolian transport of volcanic ashes and alluvial deposits, all subjected to intense weathering.

In the temperate Andean ecozone (see below under ecozones), soils vary somewhat depending upon rainfall. It should be noted that classification of Andean soils is notoriously complex; details and equivalencies between systems of classification are available (Quantin, 1986; FAO, 2001; FAO-CSIC, 2002). The portion of the temperate area frequently classified as a low montane spiniferous steppe, with rainfall of less than 500 mm includes the following soils (León-Velarde and Izquierdo, 1993): (a) Durandept, sandy loams, with a calcareous layer located above a duripan placed at a depth of 70 cm - these are soils that if irrigated support a variety of annual crops, lucerne, oats and Kikuyu grass; (b) Durustoll, generally located on slopes, over fine ashes and also with an underlying duripan; (c) Eutrandept, loamy soils with very fine ash, low water retention, pH 7; and lastly (d) Torripsamment, very sandy soils, with less than 1 percent organic matter and pH 8. Farms surveyed in this area by Ramírez et al. (1996) had soils with pH 5.2 to 6.7, acidity increasing with altitude, generally low in organic matter (OM), and always very low P (< 4 ppm). When rainfall increases to 500-1,000 mm, the zone is classified as low montane dry forest, and includes very variable soils, most frequently derived from volcanic ashes. These are clayey loams, black soils, that support productive stands of lucerne if irrigated. The low montane humid forest zone is encountered in areas with 1,000 to 2,000 mm, and has similar soils to the previous one.

http://www.fao.org/ag/agp/AGPC/doc/Counprof/Ecuador/ecuador.htm#solis



I could also find this info below on a plant database. I dont know how reliable this database is but if it is I'd assume its valid for most Trichos.

Quote:
How to grow Trichocereus peruvianus

... A soil ph of between 6.1 and 7.8 is ideal for Trichocereus peruvianus as it does best in weakly acidic soil - weakly alkaline soil...



Has anyone measured his water, soil or drainage before and can post his ph values?

Edited by tbrid (05/19/14 02:24 PM)

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Re: Good PH-Range for Trichos? [Re: tbrid]
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I've never known many cactus growers to worry about it too much. Most I know throw some lime down once a year or so though.


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Re: Good PH-Range for Trichos? [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said:
I've never known many cactus growers to worry about it too much. Most I know throw some lime down once a year or so though.



My thoughts exactly. I throw down some Dolomite Lime each year.


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