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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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This post argues that the concept of fear for intimacy is a lie used to justify control and power. It suggests that individuals should identify themselves based on their individuality and needs, rather than conforming to others' expectations. The author posits that only superior conscious beings can be true to themselves and respect others, acknowledging the existence of others to be truly individual. The post criticizes those who deny others' existence and value, labeling them as liars and wrong. It concludes that truth is objective and that individuals must recognize and respect the existence of others to be truly real and positive.

the idea of fear for intimacy is clearly a lie .. meant to justify people minds possessions by force for evil power as a way of being.. some up, by abusing from possessions means the right beings, and the rest down, true realities rights, negative helpless struggles states consciously .. as if anyone could tolerate others in their heads while being conscious.. so much for intimacy ... that religious are pleading with jesus ... and their shit spirit of holes

in fact, anything is for right values ... then anything is right too .. like technology is pointing individuals needs for their individuality first to be true before getting to be real too ..

that is why, some individuals would identify themselves by picturing others eating .. like what they see themselves as individual like ..

others would mean themselves individuality as a machine but still aware or consciously meaning something else that cant be said, since a body intelligent machine ..

others would mean themselves like what they might have to say about everything .. so enjoy others opinions when they think alike ..

what is true, is how it is impossible to picture oneself individuality .. one cant be out of being one while being one too .. especially when he is nothing but one ..one individual
only through others perspectives like else being individuals too, one could realize himself negatively, what he is same by being else one ... only to picture himself right in mind so to get close to himself as one for whatever he is doing or having to do or seeing or knowing ... everyone need him first


only superior conscious are individual beings rights ... what prove gods inferiority so evil to any kind of meaning existing without being

because only superior conscious can be true and allow truth superiority to be the premium right of existing fact like really being

so only superior conscious, can respect else and others while being out respecting themselves too .. and mean everything relatively from being themselves means only while also opening up to any else and others means that could sound or seem right too ..

being an individual is first being itself only but also being individual is only from acknowledging right else existence .. this is how individuals are true .. when they recognize that others and else particularly exist .. they become conceptually individuals rights of being real

contrary to liars, what should never be, their individuality is from getting closer to themselves as being nothing at all, by enjoying killing all others individuals and the individuality fact source .. which is the sense of life and evil means of oneness in else powers

while liars beings are the proof that truth is objective .. so even liars exist when they can, as your jesus, enjoy after all and while being nothing .. to be superior in constant ways of inventing being over all .. while nothing for itself ...

that is why, bad people usually, they never have enough.. and the more they get the more new stuff they need to have .. because the reference is themselves as nothing .. so all is the superiority it gets granted to enjoy from what truth is objective .. so any conscious is superior positive sense

that is why, there is right and wrong .. for what right is absolute good people and wrong are absolute bad ones ..

the right exist as a matter of fact so their realities must be granted always positive

and the wrong are taking the extremes senses of being objective rights for granted to themselves and through the power of gods over individuality being it is clear ... so those wrong individuals must get killed for what they are giving birth to the most vicious powers over individuals ... powers from destroying objective truth and its rights... freedom powers from never being while living from what nothing is free consciously so nothing exist relatively in truth existence realms .. while I guess, gods are destroying the nothing rights to get to be the nothing they are .. so the wrong nothing as living over else being value .. since else by definition can be seen as nothing too .. not the relative nothing that enjoy getting out of anything else and stay free as nothing true

so truth is what exist .. even though existence is only through being objective

then at a certain time, truth will move consciously to kill what is taking for granted the objective fact of existence .. what is ruining its right of being superior really and always the only fact so the true present ... and to kick out what cannot be right, down below the nothing that can stay individually free from being rights

individuality is a major fact of truth

what you recall intimacy for individuality show the pervert turns of evil means ...

when only truth exist, and truth is conscious freedom superiority .. then the only form of existence is individuals ... what can be relatively positive sources out of everything else .. by their own ways so consciously .. and out of everything is freedom being ... and positive sources is superiority .. what is always positive right so actually truly present existence alone for whatever it did alone positively even by staying alone positively ...










Edited by absols (05/02/14 06:41 AM)

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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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:thumbup:


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Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: Kickle]
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Kickle said:
I don't deny connection. I deny it [the connection] being intimate or as I sloppily posted, real.


Aside from the many "posters" (cough puppets) OC claims to have met over the years, how many on here have met others on here in real life?  Aside from OC and me? 

Now Kickle, he doesn't seem like a puppet.  But the Ice man?  I perhaps wrongly figured anyone that posted that much nonsense had to be a puppet of OC.  The timely 30 second apart responses from a new thread in the middle of the night.  Call me suspicious.

That's how unreal the illusion of who's posting has become.  You really just never know, until you know you know.



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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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:yesnod:  :bunnyhug:

LunarEclipse said:
Kickle said:
I don't deny connection. I deny it [the connection] being intimate or as I sloppily posted, real.


Aside from the many "posters" (cough puppets) OC claims to have met over the years, how many on here have met others on here in real life?  Aside from OC and me? 

Now Kickle, he doesn't seem like a puppet.  But the Ice man?  I perhaps wrongly figured anyone that posted that much nonsense had to be a puppet of OC.  The timely 30 second apart responses from a new thread in the middle of the night.  Call me suspicious.

That's how unreal the illusion of who's posting has become.  You really just never know, until you know you know.



I also get the sense that sometimes I am interacting with one entity, not separate and various people. Can be a strange thing.


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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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You never know Penelope, you never know.

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As far as I assume to know...

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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: liquidlounge]
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that because you never admit how existence is true and you never recognize nor consider else obviously being right

so you interact always with yourself free wills and positive realities perspectives .. that you can see out of objective existence of else ..

because you are believers so always evil and you are in depth what mean to be all and else with your gods..

in fact of being a human, lot of people are just normal beings .. dealing with any mean only relatively to their being needs and with any objective thing also relatively according to its limited reality of being something else right ..
and that is how humanity exist .. from the true reality of people positive relations with each others as being consciously free

which of course you believers cannot get .. for you there is nothing else but god .. which actually is meaning, you

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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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Penelope_Tree said:
:yesnod:  :bunnyhug:

I also get the sense that sometimes I am interacting with one entity, not separate and various people. Can be a strange thing.


you will never know of course, how far seeing right is only by being itself relative freedom so never interacting with anyone else  ..

being simply neutral about anything else .. which reveal how far existence is only true so anything is exactly the obvious reality it is

while you would keep inventing how to make lies superiority till the end .. even when the obvious is proven there .. you would keep mean it as a lie for creations force .. till you would get forced to shut your being forever

it is clear that there is no way to avoid global war between truth powers and lies forces... starting from now 

Edited by absols (05/02/14 12:39 PM)

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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: LunarEclipse]
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LunarEclipse said:
Kickle said:
I don't deny connection. I deny it [the connection] being intimate or as I sloppily posted, real.


Aside from the many "posters" (cough puppets) OC claims to have met over the years, how many on here have met others on here in real life?  Aside from OC and me? 

Now Kickle, he doesn't seem like a puppet.  But the Ice man?  I perhaps wrongly figured anyone that posted that much nonsense had to be a puppet of OC.  The timely 30 second apart responses from a new thread in the middle of the night.  Call me suspicious.

That's how unreal the illusion of who's posting has become.  You really just never know, until you know you know.




Hahaha.

Have you ever considered going to a gathering, or exchanging phone numbers with various users?


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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: Rose]
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But that would require coming out of one's 'safe zone'...


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Edited by OrgoneConclusion (05/02/14 06:53 PM)

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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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As long as we have safe words and signals, it'll be okay.


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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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:dominatrix:


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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: Rose]
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Rose said:
LunarEclipse said:
Kickle said:
I don't deny connection. I deny it [the connection] being intimate or as I sloppily posted, real.


Aside from the many "posters" (cough puppets) OC claims to have met over the years, how many on here have met others on here in real life?  Aside from OC and me? 

Now Kickle, he doesn't seem like a puppet.  But the Ice man?  I perhaps wrongly figured anyone that posted that much nonsense had to be a puppet of OC.  The timely 30 second apart responses from a new thread in the middle of the night.  Call me suspicious.

That's how unreal the illusion of who's posting has become.  You really just never know, until you know you know.




Hahaha.

Have you ever considered going to a gathering, or exchanging phone numbers with various users?


Negatory.  I don't gather, or exchange.  I just look through the window.  Double pane low E window.



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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: liquidlounge]
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liquidlounge said:
You never know Penelope, you never know.

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You know you know



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Anxiety is what you make it.

Edited by LunarEclipse (05/03/14 10:48 AM)

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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: LunarEclipse]
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I can't help but think that at least part of my clunky social skills might have to do with me being a digital native. Grew up with computers, and have interacted with people through them in chats, games, social networks for ages. But I still feel a longing to connect with someone and wouldn't mind sparing the time and effort necessary to connect with someone on a personal level in real life. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a complete shut-in. I do get out and try to reach out to people. But I haven't had a real friend since the 10th grade. Most of my relationships since entering college have been transient and nothing special.

I also feel this porcupine-esq vibe among a lot of people around my age. People don't want to get too close personally and always have some kind of wall up. Maybe its my area, maybe its just me...I dont really know.

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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: Adempus]
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Adempus said:
I also feel this porcupine-esq vibe among a lot of people...


Great description :thumbup:

i know what you mean..

I bet there are just as many kind people...somewhere about

Cosmicjoke told me that :cool:

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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: Adempus]
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Adempus said:
I also feel this porcupine-esq vibe among a lot of people...




Funny you put it that way:

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The hedgehog's dilemma, or sometimes the porcupine dilemma, is an analogy about the challenges of human intimacy. It describes a situation in which a group of hedgehogs all seek to become close to one another in order to share heat during cold weather. They must remain apart, however, as they cannot avoid hurting one another with their sharp spines. Though they all share the intention of a close reciprocal relationship, this may not occur, for reasons they cannot avoid.



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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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Interesting!

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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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the analogy is nice because it gives people benefit of the doubt


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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: quinn]
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Worst case scenario: no intimacy as a result of our tech dependence.


What's the big deal? Don't we always just survive/adapt to the ebb and flow?



We're hardly aware anything's changing anyway..


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Re: Technology gets us where we are most vulnerable [Re: Trippinhighman]
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What's the big deal, IMO, is that it's very possible a lack of any emotional need will impact other areas.  Life is rarely sterile.


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