thiotimoline said:

sidvivius said:

it's sweet too, it's a kind of "nectar" maybe to bring insects ? dunno what's the purpose of that liquid but I noticed it too when I was growing hbw...

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These "extrafloral nectaries" often attract aggressive ants or wasps that will defend the plant against aphids and other pests. Very cool!

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Zombi3 said:

Both the Turbina and Argeyreia(HBWR) are in the Convolvulaceae family, so these two plants are cousins so to speak. The Turbina has a higher content of LSA's and a lower content of the bad fats and stuff. The dose if like, halfway between morning glory and hbwr, morning glory(Ipomoea) is also in the same family.

Ya Im actually stoked about that growth, it is so even, I think the madagascar strain may have something to do with that because none of my hawaiian strains I ever grew were that even. Also its being grown not 12 inches away from a 130W UFO LED, a lot of people knock on LED but you know what, too many are trying to grow dense nuggets of pot with LED . LED is the future of growing, it works fucking wonders. That, and I water with balanced water taken from a mature tilapia aquaponics system.

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I don't think Tlilitzin (Ipomoea violacea) or Ololiúqui (Turbina corymbosa) have more LSA or Ergoline alkaloids than the HBWR's Hawaiian strain. Though I do believe that they have more than Ghana and Indian (both normal & Ayurvedic) HBWR strains. Ololiúqui probably does have a better LSA/Baddies ratio, but there is no way you are going to feel the same off a few Ololiúqui as you would the same amount of Hawaiian strain HBWR.

Yeah, mine is Hawaiian & it's all vined out, & lop-sided as hell, so I just hung the vines on some hooks around the room. It really is quite resilient if you give it rooting room and slack off the water during winter. I've been stressing it out a bit over winter, so when it gets comfortable outside again it should explode. I really hope I get seeds this season! If not, all that work will probably be for nothing, because this bitch must go in the ground this year, and I know it won't survive our winter. Fingers crossed!

Oh, here's a pic of it chillin' in my attic. She's not that pretty, but she is vigorous for a tropical/subtropical plant spending a winter indoors. Last October when I brought her inside, she was just starting to vine and not much bigger than most of the ones I've seen in this thread!

supernewfie said:

nicee plant man! ive read on different logs found on the internet people have eaten up to 15 or 20 india and some other type strains with little effect whatsoever... I know mine is Hawaiian strain and when I took 8, 2-3 at a time over the course of an hour or 2 I was buzzin pretty crazy..

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Zombi3 said:

Hey man thanks for noticing my fuck up. I didnt mean to say that ipomoea or turbina are stronger than argyreia, Im not sure how I fucked that up. Argyreia are certainly the strongest followed by Turbina and finally Ipomoea.

I have worked with the Ghana strain and actually to contradict myself, Id say the Turbina is stronger than that particular strain, I couldnt get a good buzz ever off the Ghana strain, Hawaiia is solid all around but the Madagascar strain is deffinetly my favourite.

Hoping to do a lot of work with Turbina this summer, I have 5 seedlings started a month or two ago and will plant another 25 this week. Those plus my 5 or so HBWR and the many many MG Ill be planting this year will certainly keep me stocked on seeds for a good while.

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No problem. Just didn't want people reading that & misunderstanding what you meant.

Ghana strain IS trash. There are many conflicting reports about the Indian Strains, so I just steer clear of both Ghana & Indian. There were also conflicting reports regarding the Madagascar strain for awhile, but many agree it's pretty solid now. It was probably just a vendor mislabeling that caused this confusion. Some say the Mada strain is even better than Hawaiian! I could definitely believe this as both places are secluded islands in tropical areas.

I think I'm gonna get me some Tlilitzin and Ololiúqui & plant them near my HBWR this year. Convolvulaceae family reunion.

FrostyC said:

supernewfie said:

nicee plant man! ive read on different logs found on the internet people have eaten up to 15 or 20 india and some other type strains with little effect whatsoever... I know mine is Hawaiian strain and when I took 8, 2-3 at a time over the course of an hour or 2 I was buzzin pretty crazy..

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I still haven't tried any seed from mine, but I do know it's Hawaiian, because I know the person who sent me the seeds. I still have like 7 of the ones they sent me, but I never have even tried any psychedelic except 1 small dose of Salvia (which was only narcotic at that amount anyway). I much more enjoy narcotics like cannabis & other smokable herbs. But I've become interested in hallucinogens, and think I should grow one before I try one, so I am not dependent on outside products for my personal revelatory experiences.

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