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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: cacharstar]
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I would kill to live in a simple self sufficient off the grid community, away from all the convoluted retardation of society.

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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Trooolololololo



Viva la revolucion



Bodhi of Ankou said:
Trooolololololo



Viva la revolucion



like steve jobs, isn't a huge troll... and he is on top!!1 :insano:

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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: akira_akuma]
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Cool beans

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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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HA, you're not going to die if you don't adapt. :lol:

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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: akira_akuma]
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I just want to grow massive food forests... I took some mud from the last rain at my dad's house and made a brick with some straw and let it bake in the sun. That is the real prize.  What was the last thing any of you built?  Didn't it feel good to work with your hands and labor over what might seem trivial?


Well perhaps it was just me.  Anyway I just had a thought.  I wonder how many ppl would be down to built something like a Shroomery Mission. A place for weary travelers on the road of life to come and escape.  Whatever I'm just super high off scissor hash.  I could see it now.  Trippers rescued from New Idria...:shrug:


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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
HA, you're not going to die if you don't adapt. :lol:



Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Were all going to die we are using up way to much oil. bladieblahdie boohoo. Like people don't already know, yet im not gonna spend a minute less on-line. Let it come, perhaps i die, perhaps everyone around me dies. In the end it will balance out. As oil comes more of a luxury less people will drive. Period. Investments in green power will become more viable. The population in India will stabilize as it will growth wealthier. Family size gets smaller as wealth increases and social care gets into place. Most of those families are so big because the older people need the younger kids to take care of them.

I understand your paranoia, but no one can prove that oil graph for one. No one can foresee the future. The only thing I'd worry about is the US government and how it reacts when finally it will go bankrupt. A cornered rat can do strange things. This is what the rest of the world should worry about. Not world population, there's enough food to go round with. It has been very shit in the past, it will be shit in the future. Be glad your living in that golden stretch we call now.


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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: virus1824]
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Its not gonna happen quick enough to prevent a lot of bad shit going down before we pull our heads out our ass's and realize how stupidly fuckin ineffective our use of resources is. There are massive fuckin problems with the way we live, It doesnt take a genius to figure out that all of it is unsustainable using current methods and almost all  green technologies have no market for implementation we dont even have enough rare metals for world wide implmentation of the technologies that require them, and like any other species that makes it past its carry capacity there is a inevitable pop off.

Nothing about it is going to go as smoothly as you wish it would.




If its going to, prove it.

Edited by Bodhi of Ankou (03/09/11 03:49 AM)

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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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:popcorn:


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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: pepper]
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When he started crying, I just wanted to give him a hug, and I'm not one to hand those out lightly.

I was already crying when he started.

Good film, too. He also contributed a little to Zeitgeist: Moving Forward, but I can't remember what exactly.

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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: Synesthetic]
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I try to look at the optimistic side as much as possible. It had me depressed for a good week when I realized the sheer gravity of what is going on. I have always thought the way we do things wouldn't work out, but when I saw the facts of how unsustainable our way of life is, it really hit me. Not really depressed now, just preparing. The bright side is, I might actually start to run into some decent folks like yourselves here on the shroomery (also some distraught beings as well :crazy2:). I'm meeting more and more people who are aware, and I do hope this will be the catalyst that will move us into living the way humans were meant to. But it's a gonna be a long haul. But maybe not so bad.

Peace to you all fellow shroomerites. And I hope that on the other side of this shit coming down, I run into the ones who are awake and ready to change! It could be really beautiful in time if we play it right.


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"Thanks to impermanence, everything is possible."
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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Collapse" is shorthand for "the collapse of society as we know it".

It involves very tangible things all happening at once within our lifetime:


oil running out at an alarming rate (Peak Oil):





the population exploding at a frightening rate:





Money losing all its value because of the recently introduced system of Fiat Currency:







More and more of that wealth ending up in fewer and fewer hands due to the way the monetary system is set up:





The escalating growth of investment products called "OTC Derivatives", which basically are nothing tangible but promises that cannot possibly be made good on which is at the verge of collapsing, for a sum of over now $700 trillion dollars which is ten times the ENTIRE world economy.





So in a nut shell.. There are more people than EVER and we have oil to thank for a population explosion that took mankind into the billions. In the next 15 years or so we will need more oil than was used by all mankind since the 1800s just to maintain our ciurrent growth based standard of living. And guess what - that much oil simply does not exist anymore.

Worse still, it is oil that keeps all those billions of people (especially you, not the African farmer growing his anemic crop with his bare hands) alive.

The fuel of the economy will run out. Natural resources will run out. The world economy will collapse and the money you have will be inflated out of your hands - within YOUR lifetime.

If we are LUCKY the great grandchildren of some of us will live in a world with 1/10 the current population. Whether this will come through massive worldwide birth control or a mass dying of billions of people will depend on the path we take as a species.

Ten, twenty years from now you might not be able to afford being online. You might not even have a home. Worst case scenario, you might not even be alive.

Nine tenths of the world population is alive today only by the grace of cheap abundant oil, and that is running out fast.


If you have some time to spare, watch this:


Collapse: An Interview With Michael Ruppert (2009)

(torrent to the movie: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5217749/Collapse.2009.DVDSCR.XviD-DOMiNO.avi )


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HUXLEY WOULD BE PROUD


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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: Asante]
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Must resurrect. :ooo:

Fantastic.


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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: Asante]
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Morning: ruined


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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so true wiccan and it sux cock...it is fucking WRONG to purposely bring a child into this fucked up world nowadays


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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: Doctor Sponge]
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I'm not debating the sorry state of the world and the scummy people in charge of everything, but I thought that population growth was actually slowing down compared to years past?


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303453004579290870074903600


That link only covers the U.S., I'm not sure how other countries compare so I'm gonna investigate a little bit.

There's no question that we are pretty much savagely raping this planet, everyday I read about the impact we have on the environment, both negative and positive(like planting trees to stop desertification and erosion)..and well, it just makes me sad because it feels fruitless..people have to change their attitudes as a whole, that's the only way to reverse the atrocious footprint mankind has left on this planet.

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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: pirate-blues]
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Population growth has slowed to a linear pattern. The graph of the total population vs. time has returned to showing a line instead of a curve.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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our technology is still exponential.  i have no long-term Malthusian fears

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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: memes]
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I think nature will have the last laugh..we will all be dead and provide great fertilizer for new plant growth:sunny:


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Re: COLLAPSE - the imminent catastrophe the mainstream media try to distract you from [Re: Doctor Sponge]
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BlindSophist said:
Population growth has slowed to a linear pattern. The graph of the total population vs. time has returned to showing a line instead of a curve.





Ah, okay. Wonder if it will continue to slow down or if people are just having babies(albeit less of them) later on in life and in 10-15 years there will be a population boom?


learning sponge said:
I think nature will have the last laugh..we will all be dead and provide great fertilizer for new plant growth:sunny:



Or we'll essentially kill the planet but develop the technology needed to start a colony elsewhere and we become and intergalactic species that travels the universe killing planets.

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