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Is the media to blame for ADD?
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Is the constant stimulus from the media to blame for speeding up the mental computational capacity, and the desire for constant stimulus resulting in ADD and ADHD?

In more recent years, I find myself watching TV/playing a video game while on the computer, viewing web pages and communicating with friends through instant messaging, while listening to music.

I did not do this in the past. I've noticed that I, and others I've asked testify that this constant stimuli jades us toward everyday tasks and makes us unable to "concentrate" on things that we hold little to no interest in.


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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: Sebastian23]
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Absofukinlutly

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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
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it wouldnt suprise me. studies should be done on this.


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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: Big_Whoop]
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HAHAHAHA

no

the "media" is plotless, everythings rethoric, and all the movies suck. people with add arnt even kept occupied by that shit.

i blame add for me ignoring mainstream media, and reading news instead of watching it, because they say the same fucking phrases over and over.


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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: moon_glue]
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yes I think so.

lack of parental discipline may also be a factor

improper upbringing

all sorts of things.

the media is insanely fast though, faster than anything in reality ever could be. nature gives us healing and restorative ambiance and the nature gives us THUMP THUMP THUMP wishing lights, etc.... lots of jarring things we have to use our brains to ignore so we can stay on the task at hand

and look when you are trying to do something and something else is present, you are wasting precious cognitive resources ignoring it, most people stop caring and don't notice but it robs you of the ability to attain deep concentrated absorption

the slow still peace of meditation, or psychedelic immersion...... it's a hinderance.


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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: Sebastian23]
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I blame your thread. :smirk:


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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: Sebastian23]
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Yes, partially.

Commercials on television do at least.


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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: Sebastian23]
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Yes, "ADD" is a formless meme propagated and largely cultivated by media. It's just another in a long trend of ideas that helps to erode personal accountability and reduce every personality to the same predictable, controllable unit. Even if media in its various forms is responsible for "speeding up the mental computational capacity" and increasing "the desire for constant stimulus", what would motivate you to go further and say that this has resulted in ADD? That would imply that you are somehow unable to step away from the computer/instant messenger/email/television/internet and choose to read a book instead. Or is your reasoning upheld by the great "There Is No Free Will" philosophy that seems to be ever growing in this generation?

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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: Sebastian23]
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I would have been diagnosed with ADD if I grew up in these times.

Thankfully I did not.

Christ, kids will be kids and when then do get out of line pumping their bloodstream full of drugs is not the answer.

There is a problem of ADD. But it is with the parents, not the child.

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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: gregorio]
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Maybe you guys should learn up and read about ADHD before you try to make it look like you know what you are talking about.

I guess you think clinical depression and anxiety disorders are all bulshit too?



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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: WakeboardrB]
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WakeboardrB said:
Maybe you guys should learn up and read about ADHD before you try to make it look like you know what you are talking about.

I guess you think clinical depression and anxiety disorders are all bulshit too?

Fucking idiots.


I think you took their posts too personally. everybody is entitled to their opinions, surely, and I also think you misread what was being said. it's not that the disorder itself is bullshit, it's that the disorder to a great degree APPEARS to be created and worsened by modern technology and excess-stimulus, more specifically the way entertainment is presented to us. sensory overload at all times from all directions in our modern world of fancy gadgets and novelty items and fads and trends and LEDs and neon ...

in fact, there is now even a 1 second long Audi commercial, meant to air in a way so that when you fast-forward on Tivo or whatever you still see the whole commercial in 1 second, and sunsequently you don't miss it and can't avoid seeing it.

food plays a huge part in ADD/ADHD to a significant degree, as well. if you eat processed food, you ingest many many chemicals which cause many many problems in the brain which would not naturally occur otherwise. this is actually proven stuff, not just something I randomly heard one day. I personally notice extreme attention problems when I fuck with processed food, and the exact opposite when I eat well and take care of myself. all the problems go away when I stop eating the junk.

although genetics may play a factor, how many PARENTS do you know with ADD/ADHD? it's a relatively "newer" condition, so that could imply that it's cause is more rooted in the condition of our current lifestyle in this modern age than in nature itself.

nobody disputed the existence of the disorders, but the cause is certainly greatly influenced by the way we live our lives these days.


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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: HB]
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HB said:
although genetics may play a factor, how many PARENTS do you know with ADD/ADHD? it's a relatively "newer" condition



You should see my mother and she's in her 50's. I think that the cause that more children/adolesents are being diagnosed and treated is because most everyone in older age has already developed coping mechanisms well before the whole ADHD media explosion in the 90's.

Just because they've never seen doctors for it doesn't mean they don't suffer from it.


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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: WakeboardrB]
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WakeboardrB said:
Maybe you guys should learn up and read about ADHD before you try to make it look like you know what you are talking about.

I guess you think clinical depression and anxiety disorders are all bulshit too?

Fucking idiots.


Wow! What did I say?

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I would have been diagnosed with ADD if I grew up in these times.

Thankfully I did not.

Christ, kids will be kids and when then do get out of line pumping their bloodstream full of drugs is not the answer.

There is a problem of ADD. But it is with the parents, not the child.



Sorry that offended you so much.

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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: WakeboardrB]
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WakeboardrB said:
Just because they've never seen doctors for it doesn't mean they don't suffer from it.


truly. I still feel that the cause is not so natural as it is synthetically based, and that it is rooted in society. even 50 years ago, the amount of technology might have been sensory overload in relation to the time period. 50 years ago was also when fast-food BEGAN being made, for the most part. TV dinners and such, as well. so truly, the first "fake foods".

the older crowd with the disorder probably developed coping mechanisms that kids today cannot because the amount of sensory input today is truly unmatchable for any other period of time. it's truly crazy now. having 999 channels on the TV alone and having MP3 players as well as full internet and the secret of life on cell phones is JUST TOO MUCH. no wonder everybody can't focus. it's become CRAZY in this world just to wake up in the morning. we no longer have the innocent silence and peace of the past, the two things which truly create attention and focus.

so anyway .. it's just my personal view on it. i've dealt with ADD/ADHD issues in my life, but I've cleared them up to a great extent by eliminating processed foods and other toxins (such as cigarettes) from my body, so for me maybe it's different.


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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: HB]
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ADD is some bullshit symptons doctors gave to some yuppie dumbass parents who don't know how to discipline their spoiled brat. While at the same time the doctor prescribing these meds gets a nice incentive bonus check from the pharmeciudical companies for prescribing their products.

Some drug company starts saying you have "symptoms" and then dumbasses go running to get themselves or their kids hooked on these companies drugs. Because they don't know how to attain to their own responsibilities. Take action for yourself rather than relying on what these fat cats are mass producing to pimp you out of your money like a 5th street hooker


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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: Bigrichshrooms]
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Bigrichshrooms said:
ADD is some bullshit symptons doctors gave to some yuppie dumbass parents who don't know how to discipline their spoiled brat. While at the same time the doctor prescribing these meds gets a nice incentive bonus check from the pharmeciudical companies for prescribing their products.

Some drug company starts saying you have "symptoms" and then dumbasses go running to get themselves or their kids hooked on these companies drugs. Because they don't know how to attain to their own responsibilities. Take action for yourself rather than relying on what these fat cats are mass producing to pimp you out of your money like a 5th street hooker


:rofl:


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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: gregorio]
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Quote:
I guess you think clinical depression and anxiety disorders are all bulshit too?

Fucking idiots.



No, ADD is bullshit because it implies that there is some standard level of attention that everyone has all the time.  It doesn't take into account the fact that attention is something that fluctuates every moment for a vast number of reasons.  It's not just some fixed thing that is or isn't good:crazy2:.  ADD is also bullshit because the definition was created by and is inexplicably linked to the notion that there is a chemical compound to fix it.  I've seen enough friends growing up with their ritalin and adderal to know what a mistake that is.

Now, "clinical" depression and anxiety orders are a little more tangible because someone might feel certain tangible emotions most of the time or someone might experience a high level of anxiety most of the time.  I've been there with the anxiety one especially.  But, they are bullshit as soon as you start saying they are some affliction you have no control over.  When you think a thought, does it not create a cascade of chemical reactions within your body?

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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: Viveka]
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There may not be any set level of concentration but the ability to control your concentration is what their going for. No one wants to think of the same thing all the time, but if needed its nice to be able to focus for a longer than normal period of time to complete a difficult task. There are people that even when the time has come to focus they wonder on through their thoughts inevitably making them not finish, do a half assed job, or even inadvertently hurt people.

This is why people need these meds and the constant flickering of attention in the media causes people to become accustomed to having a thirty second attention span. Then when the time comes to focus for 10 minuets they get run over by a car because they forgot to look for cars cause that bitch in Family Dollar had big tits.


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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: Sebastian23]
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attention is a point in focus. whenever we apply that focus onto multiple things at the same instant, the point in a sense becomes smudged and blurry. rather than maintaining a sharp attention, we blunt it in order to keep up with the flow of information.

ADD or ADHD are clinically defined terms which basically make a mental disease out of something that is merely an adaption to the frequencies of one's artificial surroundings.

the problem is not the hightened mental computational activity. the problem is a social consensus which directs doctors to prescribe brain drugs to a fix an inconsistency which clearly has an external source.

is the media to blame? no, i don't think so. the media sure does play its part, but so do we.

the world is a fast one today, and it speeds up exponentially. our children are only trying to adapt their nervous system to the increasing pace.

natural frequencies such as those found in the forests, mountains and by lakes and near the oceans actually help to sharpen our attention span. this IMO is part of the real solution.

:earth: :yinyang: :shineon:


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Re: Is the media to blame for ADD? [Re: AlteredAgain]
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AlteredAgain said:
natural frequencies such as those found in the forests, mountains and by lakes and near the oceans actually help to sharpen our attention span. this IMO is part of the real solution.

:earth: :yinyang: :shineon:


Interesting hypothesis. Should this solution be applied to society to sharpen one's 'focus', or attention span? If so, how could this be attained?


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