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OfflinePawn_Star
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ID please Big mushroom
    #1979153 - 10/04/03 04:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

found this growing im my front yard under a few bushes. Ive seen a few so far this summer don't have every detail because i did not want to pick it just yet, abd i figured it would not be too hard for you guys.

1. location : boulder colorado
2. growing under some type of shrubbery, in the needles, also found on organically fetilized front lawn.
3. cap : large white with brown patches, round, kinda spongy, cant get under to see gills, or spores.
4.stem is thik strong and fibery.
5.also this shroom has been around for a while at least a few weeks, pretty longlived for i mushroom i think.

here's a pic




thanks.

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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: Pawn_Star]
    #1979282 - 10/04/03 05:18 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I've seen this mushroom in Colorado too. Usually growing on grass. I think it might be some type of Agaricus, but I'm no expert.


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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: cherokee]
    #1979295 - 10/04/03 05:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Leucoagaricus procerus the parasol mushroom :rolleyes: :thumbup:


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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: winelover]
    #1979468 - 10/04/03 07:05 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

it is possible it good be the parasol mushroom, which is more commonly called Macrolepiota procera.

i doubt very much that its been there for a few weeks, maybe one died, and another starting fruiting, and another after that at best. but then you would see it get fully expanded. in order to find out, you would have to pull the mushroom out of the ground or at least get the cap off. better yet wait until it ages and look under the cap. does the ring on the stem move up and down, what color are the gills when they are older, is there a bulbous base in ground?

good luck.


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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: Pawn_Star]
    #1979472 - 10/04/03 07:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That's very probably Lepiota rhacodes.

There are a couple things you should do to verify the ID.

First, make a spore print. It should come out white (not greenish).

Second, note what color the cut stem turns (you have to cut the stem to make the spore print). It usually changes color within a minute or two.

Let us know.

Lepiota rhacodes is a good edible, but you should try only a small portion (the size of a fingernail) the first time. Some people get sick from eating it (an individual reaction). By eating a tiny amount, you make sure you won't get very sick if you're one of those people.


winelover - I can find no record of Lepiota procera (another name for the mushroom you named) in Colorado. Otherwise, it would be a reasonable guess.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1979488 - 10/04/03 07:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

wow, really? They dont grow in colorado, that surprises me. i would think they grow all over the temperate climate and not only.


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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: MagmaManiac]
    #1979544 - 10/04/03 07:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i found these a few weeks ago and eat them with salad, pretty nice :smile:

here's my post which may help:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post1940226 


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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: mikey_]
    #1979736 - 10/04/03 09:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

cut and printing right now, the stem did turn red when cut, the gills are white, the stem had a bulb like base. How should i see a white spore print? Use black paper?

it really has been there for over a week...



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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: cherokee]
    #1979750 - 10/04/03 09:32 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Smoker for Peace, I just realized something about your post.

Lepiota rhacodes almost never grows in grass. I almost always find it growing on bare ground under trees or bushes.

But there's a lookalike that does. Chlorophyllum molybdites usually grows in grass, and it is very poisonous.

The best way to distinguish between them is spore print. Chlorophyllum has a greenish spore print, and Lepiota is white. Always get a spore print before eating one of these mushrooms.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1979774 - 10/04/03 09:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

interestin because i saw earlyer in the summer similar mushrooms growing on grass/and under a tree I assumed this was the same species maby not though.

no print i can see yet,
tune in tomorrow..same bat place ...same bat channel


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Oh yeah and if anyone knows of any job openings for a Mechanical Engineer in the Boulder area let me know. tks


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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1979868 - 10/04/03 10:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

From the book that i have the lookalike Chlorophyllum molybdites is not supposed to grow north of California. just my 2 cents.
but a spore print would make the ID for sure.


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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: billbraski]
    #1980982 - 10/05/03 12:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I can confirm that Chlorophyllum molybdites grows *very* commonly in Colorado. I even found a couple in my front yard this year. It's the 3rd most common cause of mushroom poisoning here, after Amanita muscaria and Amanita pantherina.

On the other hand, your statement highlights the fact that books on mushrooms are never complete. Information on where they grow is generally written for a target audience.

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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1981908 - 10/05/03 07:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

well I got a light spore print on dark paper...looks white, not green,but it is pretty light. i tried to take a pic but it did not come out well.

I won't eat this specimine because the print is not very conclusive to me, but maby in the future i'll try one.

thanks for the ID

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Oh yeah and if anyone knows of any job openings for a Mechanical Engineer in the Boulder area let me know. tks


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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: Pawn_Star]
    #1982419 - 10/05/03 11:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yea its most definately white, and therefore is probably a Macrolepiota or Lepiota, again seeing the underside and ring etc would do wonders.


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Re: ID please Big mushroom [Re: MagmaManiac]
    #1982659 - 10/06/03 12:42 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

sorry can't get anymore pictures. I broke the cap up and spread it about my lawn hoping it will spawn some more in the spring.

my impression for what is's worth (not much) is that it was a mature mushroom, I did not see any chage in it in days so i fugured it was fully grow, (thats why i picked it). the underside had deep long white gills, the ring is harder to remeber because i discarded it with the stem when i took the print

I relized i never gave a size, the cap was a bit larger than a baseball and stem was bout 5" long.

I'll be sure to take better pics when the next ones come up.

brian


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it's as big as a Whale, and it's about to set Sail.

Oh yeah and if anyone knows of any job openings for a Mechanical Engineer in the Boulder area let me know. tks


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