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Chlorophyllum molybdites
    #1634829 - 06/15/03 12:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

These were found in West Central Florida. I believe these to be Chlorophyllum molybdites. I figured I would share these pictures and get a confirmation. Thanks



































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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: motaman]
    #1634858 - 06/15/03 12:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

The spore print certainly looks like proof to me. The photos look like classic specimens.

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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1634994 - 06/15/03 01:54 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Definately Green Gills.


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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: motaman]
    #1634997 - 06/15/03 01:55 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Nice pics, motoman!!!!! :laugh:

That spore print is fuckin' awesome!


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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1635531 - 06/15/03 06:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah.. the spore print is crucial. Without it, some would say it could be one of a few Lepiotas. And many have eaten these thinking they have an edible Lepiota. Thanks for the replies.  :grin:   


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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: motaman]
    #1635575 - 06/15/03 07:04 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

-Macrolepiota procera & M. subrhacodes are the closest look-a-likes & are both choice edible mushrooms & they are both also commonly found in the same habitat as the poisonous Chlorophyllum molybdites.


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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #1637067 - 06/16/03 11:43 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

nothing could look closer to C. molibdites. one glance tells the story.


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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: motaman]
    #1637078 - 06/16/03 11:59 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Why aren't the gills green?

Hre is a pictue of green gills of this species.



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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1637108 - 06/16/03 12:22 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

If I am not mistaken the gills turn green after the mushroom has thrown spores.
I was going to go and get some more pictures of them yesterday, but it was raining pretty hard. So here is a picture of a waterlogged one from today.



I am not sure of the accuracy of the site but here is a quote

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The major difference between Chlorophyllum and Lepiota is that Chlorophyllum develops green tinted spores and a green spore print. In older specimens the gills often turn green also (hence the name chloro=green, phyllum=gills). However, often the spores take a while to mature and may even appear to be white as in Lepiota! There was a poisoning some years back in which a famous mycologist searched the entire fruiting body that had poisoned someone and could only find *one* green spore




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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: motaman]
    #1637214 - 06/16/03 01:19 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

The gills are white,
The spores are green,
As the cap developes,
The spores dust the gills with the green color.

The spores are pea-green in deposit when fresh but fade.

There are two look-a-likes that are also choice edible mushrooms in florida which can be found in similar habitats as the green gills, they are;
Macrolepiota procera found on wooded lawns, around clearings in forests, and in open pastures*.
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Macrolepiota subrachodes which is often mixed in with Chlorophyllum molybdites in lawns prefering the edge of wooded areas, and M subrachodes flesh becomes orangey-red when bruised

*and these mushrooms all can be found mixed in the woods of pasturelands where Chlorophyllum molybdites can also be found.

Untrained collectors could confuse the species.

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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #1637216 - 06/16/03 01:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

As the cap developes,
The spores dust the gills with the green color.






Thats what I meant  :grin: 


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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: motaman]
    #1638398 - 06/16/03 10:38 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yea yea you go on about the various Macrolepiota choice edibles in florida, but i have never found any other LARGE lepiotaceae other than Chlorphyllum molibdites. i have found HUNDREDS of them, but never a Macrolepiota. they are here, but definately in smaller numbers than C. molibdites.


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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: MagmaManiac]
    #1638476 - 06/16/03 11:10 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Here in Colorado we have both Chlorophyllum molybdites and Lepiota rachodes. Chlorophyllum is more obvious because it tends to grow in open areas like peoples' lawns. The Lepiotas aren't seen as much because we only find them near trees, and not in grass. I don't think there are necessarily more of the Chlorophyllums, they're just easier to spot.

I haven't hunted in Florida so I can't say that the habitats are different there like here, but that may be the reason you only find one and not the other. Try looking in areas near the edges of clearings for the Lepiotas and see if you find any.

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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1638649 - 06/17/03 12:19 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yea believe me ive looked in forest clearings/fields etc and on the sides of forests. a lot of different places. what i usually find in those areas are agaricus. no Macrolepiotas. cant wait to fry a florida M. procera though.


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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: MagmaManiac]
    #1639123 - 06/17/03 09:32 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I have found them all here.

Macrolepiota's grow only during a specific time frame within each season.

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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #1639507 - 06/17/03 01:35 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

when and where? i have looked a few times ESPECIALLY for them and A LOT times not especially for them and havent found any.


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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: MagmaManiac]
    #1639740 - 06/17/03 03:22 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hi again MagmaManiac,

I was looking for the photo of the Parasols that we used to find.

They grew in a specific meadow of a cow pasture, a cow pasture of which is now a childrens playground and athletic field.

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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #1639776 - 06/17/03 03:37 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Dont forget that even if you do find the edible ones - they can still make some people sick so go easy at first


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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: Mycena]
    #1639782 - 06/17/03 03:43 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I never ate them.

God created refridgerated produce section's for the mushrooms at the grocery store for this exact purpose.  :sun:

Excellent advice for anyone planning on eating what they find though.  :cool:

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Re: Chlorophyllum molybdites [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #1641776 - 06/18/03 10:51 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i have eaten M. procera many times in poland fried. that is always how they make it in poland. it turns reddish and then DARK brown when its cooked from what i remember. some of the tastiest fleshiest mushrooms with that 'almond' flavor. they compare to Lactarius deliciosus in flavor they are so good.


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