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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: psi]
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psi said:
zappaisgod said:
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Domino's Pizza spokesperson Lynn Liddle said, "There are 34 million different ways that you can make a pizza. That's an actual number, we did the math. Can't really calorie label that on a board." 




Yeah 34 million is quite a few combinations. Tabulating it by topping rather than by combination seems a lot simpler, no?


Yes. But zappa doesn't have the brainpowere needed to figure that one out apprently...


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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: Patlal]
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ouch, burn... :sadyes:

























:rolleyes:

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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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tymoteusz3 said:
zappaisgod said:
tymoteusz3 said:
A Day InThe Life said:
I think it's a silly law.. If you wanna be healthy, educate yourself on what's healthy to eat, end of story.


The problem is those who are sick and unhealthy cost our society hugely in medical bills.
In a perfect world everyone would research their options and pick healthy things, but that isn't the way the world works. I would rather those that are too dumb to do their own research see the calorie counts and do a double-take. Sure many will keep on eating fatty sugar-laden foods, but some won't.


You're failure to do the proper calisthenics are costing society billions.  You're continued drug abuse is costing society billions.  You're addiction to the Shroomety instead of work is costing society billions.




Projecting much?
I exercise a lot, am healthy, do not abuse drugs, and pay out a large portion of my income in tax. I think I am OK but thanks for the concern.
It's funny you always attempt to make something personal. Is it because your argument is so shitty on it's own that you need to needle people to get a rise out of them?


And so you are so virtuous in your personal life you think it is OK for the state to justify totalitarianism in the name of saving society money.  By your rationale the government should be forcing people to exercise because the "societal" cost of not doing it is so high.  Do you know what else would save society a lot of money?  Killing all junkies, drunks and old people.  HUGE savings right there.
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By the way, how exactly does it cost "society" anything?



Well you see here in Canada we have public healthcare. This means that a portion of my taxes goes to fund healthcare. It's in everyone's best interest for people to be healthy, as it's cheaper.



It isn't in your best interests to pay huge taxes to fund health care.  You are a young healthy male.  You are being taken for a sucker.
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Before you inevitably start crying about how the US system is better, I like our system much better than the terrible clusterfuck you guys have. Also I am not a greedy asshole and don't mind collectively paying so everyone can get healthcare, which is a human right in my opinion.


We didn't have a clusterfuck until Obamacare.  It worked so well that Canadians and other people from all over the world would come here for health care they couldn't get at home.  Health care is a human right?  Is freedom from chattel slavery a human right?  Are not property rights human rights? 

Who is the greedier asshole?  The person who wants to keep what he has earned through free commercial interactions or the asshole who never did anything or contributed in any way uet demands to be taken care of?


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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
psi said:
zappaisgod said:
Quote:
Domino's Pizza spokesperson Lynn Liddle said, "There are 34 million different ways that you can make a pizza. That's an actual number, we did the math. Can't really calorie label that on a board." 




Yeah 34 million is quite a few combinations. Tabulating it by topping rather than by combination seems a lot simpler, no?


Yes. But zappa doesn't have the brainpowere needed to figure that one out apprently...


If you don't already know pizza is not particularly good for you do you think you could do the math.

It makes me so sad that all you people refuse to take responsibility for your own education and choices.  Freedom dies a little every time you post.


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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: zappaisgod]
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Canadians do not have the same devout inclinations for freedom and prosperity that Americans do.

con

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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
Canadians do not have the same devout inclinations for freedom and prosperity that Americans do.

con


No they don't.  That is clear


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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
It isn't in your best interests to pay huge taxes to fund health care.  You are a young healthy male.  You are being taken for a sucker.



Until literally anything happens to him. It's 2,000$ for an mri, several thousand per night in the hospital, like 20$ for morphine, thousands for medications, and tens of thousands for surgery.

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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: akira_akuma]
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A lot of restaurant food is packed with fucking unbelievable amounts of calories. Without some inside info you'd never guess that at Applebees, for example, the following dishes have these calorie counts:

Shrimp fajitas -- 1270

Riblet and chicken tenders platter -- 1830-2040

Crispy orange chicken -- 1520

Mac and cheese w/ chicken tenders -- 1830.

Sure, no one would confuse these items with low-calorie options, but these numbers are just bewildering. They jam this shit full of grease, salt, and sugar so that it appeals to our idiot reptilian brains. Mmmm, a little sweet, salty, and  creamy and/or crispy, but TASTY. Also: death on a platter.

Calorie counts on menus are a good idea because they shed light on the unholy calorie bombs that some shitty restaurants pass off as food.

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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
And so you are so virtuous in your personal life you think it is OK for the state to justify totalitarianism in the name of saving society money.  By your rationale the government should be forcing people to exercise because the "societal" cost of not doing it is so high.  Do you know what else would save society a lot of money?  Killing all junkies, drunks and old people.  HUGE savings right there.


It's always the same arguing with you and Patlal pointed the same thing earlier in this thread.
Patlal said:
Its funny arguing with you. You ALWAYS jump to the most extreme conclusions without even thinking it seems.


I believe this is also called "slipper slope" and is a logical fallacy.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope

In response to your comment about the government forcing people to exercise, it is important to ensure personal freedom. Therefore forcing exercising or forcing eating healthy is wrong, but mandating nutritional information and incentives for exercising would not be.


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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
akira_akuma said:
Canadians do not have the same devout inclinations for freedom and prosperity that Americans do.

con


No they don't.  That is clear


The question is, why do you put so much value on freedom?


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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: NotTheDevil]
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NotTheDevil said:
zappaisgod said:
It isn't in your best interests to pay huge taxes to fund health care.  You are a young healthy male.  You are being taken for a sucker.



Until literally anything happens to him. It's 2,000$ for an mri, several thousand per night in the hospital, like 20$ for morphine, thousands for medications, and tens of thousands for surgery.


So?  For young healthy males health insurance is a stupid financial bet.  I went from childhood to around 50 without having any significant health expenses and I rarely went for check ups.  Total waste.  This is the experience of almost everybody I know.  Then I again, I don't know too many fat, stupid junkie assholes who are too dumb to know that pizza has a lot of calories and pizza with sausage and extra cheese has more.

Here's another way to save society costs, Timmeh.  Kill the stupid people.


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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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Whoever came up with this idea must be used to only going to crappy chain restaurants.

How the hell am I supposed to know the calorie content of new daily menu items?

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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
zappaisgod said:
akira_akuma said:
Canadians do not have the same devout inclinations for freedom and prosperity that Americans do.

con


No they don't.  That is clear


The question is, why do you put so much value on freedom?


That is all that matters.  Unless you are a Borg.  Are you a Borg?  You and Timmeh sound like one.


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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
zappaisgod said:
akira_akuma said:
Canadians do not have the same devout inclinations for freedom and prosperity that Americans do.

con


No they don't.  That is clear


The question is, why do you put so much value on freedom?


haha, intrinsically silly question.

why do i like to breath the air? it's only gonna get polluted eventually!1

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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
NotTheDevil said:
zappaisgod said:
It isn't in your best interests to pay huge taxes to fund health care.  You are a young healthy male.  You are being taken for a sucker.



Until literally anything happens to him. It's 2,000$ for an mri, several thousand per night in the hospital, like 20$ for morphine, thousands for medications, and tens of thousands for surgery.


So?  For young healthy males health insurance is a stupid financial bet.  I went from childhood to around 50 without having any significant health expenses and I rarely went for check ups.  Total waste.  This is the experience of almost everybody I know.  Then I again, I don't know too many fat, stupid junkie assholes who are too dumb to know that pizza has a lot of calories and pizza with sausage and extra cheese has more.

Here's another way to save society costs, Timmeh.  Kill the stupid people.


Ya, and I got crohn's disease and nearly died, thankfully I was still under family insurance because the medical costs would have bankrupted me.

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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: EdibleStereos]
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EdibleStereos said:
Whoever came up with this idea must be used to only going to crappy chain restaurants.

How the hell am I supposed to know the calorie content of new daily menu items?


This though, it's a terrible idea because it means that people have to calculate the calorie content of every dish in their restaurant, and because it does not reduce calorie consumption anyways.

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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
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zappaisgod said:
Patlal said:
zappaisgod said:
akira_akuma said:
Canadians do not have the same devout inclinations for freedom and prosperity that Americans do.

con


No they don't.  That is clear


The question is, why do you put so much value on freedom?


That is all that matters.  Unless you are a Borg.  Are you a Borg?  You and Timmeh sound like one.


No its not all that matters. There are so many more aspects of life. Freedom is a great perk, but you seem to emphasize it so fucking much that you are willing to make irrational decisions to keep every single aspect of it imaginable even if it means killing yourself.

Freedom is cool I'll give you that, but no its not everything... You've been drinking the US government's koolaid for too long.


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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: EdibleStereos]
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EdibleStereos said:
Whoever came up with this idea must be used to only going to crappy chain restaurants.

How the hell am I supposed to know the calorie content of new daily menu items?


As a restauranteur? You'd ask the chef what goes into the new dish, take out a calculator, and come up with a figure.

If you can keep books you can surely accomplish this. If you have passed the sixth grade you can surely accomplish this.

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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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tymoteusz3 said:
I believe this is also called "slipper slope" and is a logical fallacy.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope



so many people do this, in academic sciences to politics and religion. it's just the norm around here... frankly, i don't blame Zappa for having such an extremest point of view, because he's (along with everyone else) continuously bombarded with retorts and proclamations about facetious (alot of the time) arguments and he's either a: sick to death of it and throws up his arms in the slippery slope or b: has to explain what maybe has a bit of truth to it to a bunch of rambling fools, what seems to be over and over and over again while never gaining any ground.

same goes with everyone here. :facepalm: the internet.

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Re: Ontario Liberals want to force restaurant to write down the calorie count next to the price [Re: Me_Roy]
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Americans love having the freedom to smoke cigarettes, shoot guns, get fat, believe in the flat Earth, handle snakes, and do other awesome shit.

They also like imagining themselves independent while representing a bloated 300# burden on the public health systen

This is what makes our country great. Back off.

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