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Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help?
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Hi everybody. I'm new here so I hope I don't break any rules. Just tell me if.

Over the later half of the 20th century most of us could agree there's been a trend in greater gender equality atleast in the western world. Though there's still far to go. From when we were little kids we've been told how we should act based on our sex, and these social structures are hard to break down. And I think they are quite bad for us and inhibts our ability to develop into they persons we truly should be. so the things we could discuss are:

Do you think the world will see a day where we have almost absolute gender equality and the importance of our social sex is broken down to a minimum. Do you think that greater gender equality is neccesary where you live?

and finally, do you think psychedelic experiences can help us free ourselves from the social sex that's been put upon us and se others more like individuals and less as their gender?

Regards, Celestica


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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: Celestica] * 1
    #19553179 -

No.  There will always be gender inequality as long as the male of the species remains physically stronger than the female.  Society has made great progress at leveling the playing field, but ultimately, humans are animals and we create a hierarchy based on dominance.  Physical strength plays a role in that.  It always has and always will.


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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: Enlil]
    #19553247 -

I would agree with you 1000 years ago, but do you really think physical strenght is of any importance compared to intellectual strength (that I believe is not at all related to gender) in todays society?

By the way, do you think your psychedelic experiences has helped you the way you think of women or men?

Celestica


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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: Celestica] * 1
    #19553262 -

Again, society can only do so much.  At our most basic level, we still are influenced by our nature as animals.  Education can teach us behaviors, but it can't really reprogram our nature.

As far as psychedelic experiences, nah.  I didn't learn anything from them, really.  I tripped.  I saw shit.  I came back to the same reality I was in beforehand.


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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: Enlil]
    #19553305 -

You have a point there, clearly. I just wish that someday we will be free from these biological boundaries and can live free from that, equal. Would be beautiful, but probably it will never happen.

Reality tend to be the same I guess.


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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: Celestica]
    #19553344 -

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really think physical strength is of any importance compared to intellectual strength



  If you do my job or allot of construction jobs it absolutely is. Women struggle in construction even the super butched out ones. Do be honest you need balls, big balls sometimes , I do some stupid scary shit occasionally. I think women working for me would fuck up profit , I need strong people, sounds cold but thats just the way it is.

 
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By the way, do you think your psychedelic experiences has helped you the way you think of women or men?




Psychadelic drugs dont make you wiser, they just blow your mind . They've never helped me see anything differently, I just use them for fun. For pleasure.

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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: psilynut]
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I can see that it is a difference in that field, clearly. But I wonder if that is really an important factor for society as a whole now?

Well, I guess that depends how you use them and who you are.


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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: psilynut]
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psilynut said:
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Do be honest you need balls, big balls sometimes , I do some stupid scary shit occasionally. I think women working for me would fuck up profit , I need strong people, sounds cold but thats just the way it is.




Doesnt sound cold sounds logicial women cant do certain things its funny folks stop as physical because I go past that. I wonder even if intellectual they can pass you should see the studies of when a male and women first talks the things she picks up on vs what we do and how each side acts. Incredible perfection I find it almost true in all cases and this brings me to the man upstairs and when I stare up my forehead reads skeptic. Thats the usual but for this topic it seems ingrained from whoever or however we got here women have there place and so do men I find trying to cut that in half back fires. My mother was mentioning the other day the times were women power strikes it doesnt go well I turned to her and looked her dead in her eye and said "I know" This could go deeper into parenthood but im on a different forum with that no use in double mirrors.

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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: Celestica]
    #19553533 -

Quote:
I can see that it is a difference in that field, clearly. But I wonder if that is really an important factor for society as a whole now?



  Nothing is more important. Its the backbone of Society. Most people need a building to go do their job in. Everyone needs a building to go shopping in, especially women. And we all need roads to get there.


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Well, I guess that depends how you use them and who you are



  Or how you choose to see it, if you believe they do, then I guess they do. Thought they did when I was a teenager, after 15 years of using and growing, I just think they get you high, age changes how I view life more than anything.

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en a male and women first talks the things she picks up on vs what we do and how each side acts



  I usually  pick on the jigglyness of the tits and how she chooses to display them.

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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: psilynut]
    #19553535 -

psilynut said:
Quote:
really think physical strength is of any importance compared to intellectual strength



  If you do my job or allot of construction jobs it absolutely is. Women struggle in construction even the super butched out ones. Do be honest you need balls, big balls sometimes , I do some stupid scary shit occasionally. I think women working for me would fuck up profit , I need strong people, sounds cold but thats just the way it is.

 
Quote:
By the way, do you think your psychedelic experiences has helped you the way you think of women or men?




Psychadelic drugs dont make you wiser, they just blow your mind . They've never helped me see anything differently, I just use them for fun. For pleasure.



For once I agree with the entirety of a psilynut post


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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: Fragment]
    #19553622 -

My opinion is that almost all of the psychological differences between men and women are due to how we are so different treated during our childhood especially but also in society as a whole. And the movement for more power to the woman has been very successfull many times. Take as an example, women are allowed to vote in almost all "democracies"

Regards,
Celestica


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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: Celestica]
    #19553654 -

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My opinion is that almost all of the psychological differences between men and women are due to how we are so different treated during our childhood especially but also in society as a whole



male and female brains are also physically and chemically built different as well. Even if two twins were raised exactly the same way by society/parents they would still have major psychological differences strictly because one is male and one is female.


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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: psilynut]
    #19553657 -

Especially women?
It's true, but nowadays society is so much more. The real power doesn't lie at the construction workers anymore, it lies at the architects, engineers, politicians and the economic system. And in these administrative areas where the real power over society is, a woman is as capable as a man, because physical strenght isn't needed. The problem is that women still aren't let in there as easy as men.

And the last you wrote, that's just gross.

Regards
Celestica


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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: psyconaught]
    #19553671 -

I agree with all of that, but not "major". I think the difference is quite small compared to differences between individuals. The biggest differences you see between men and women, I believe, are social.


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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: Celestica]
    #19553707 -

The birth comment is ok but I sway more to the other side of "the brains from the beginning are different as well" This is where Id present some evidence of women raised to be men but since the line is thinning most appear to be just a like, like its good. Feminune and masculine kinda weird but if it's your thing be yourself. Me I prefer hard work and labor I come home to me woman and she comes to help but the day she develops muscles like Hulk were going to have a problem.

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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: Fragment] * 1
    #19553760 -

There are physical and functional differences between male and female brains.  It is a fact, not a theory.


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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: zappaisgod]
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Enlil said:
No.  There will always be gender inequality as long as the male of the species remains physically stronger than the female... humans are animals and we create a hierarchy based on dominance.  Physical strength plays a role in that.  It always has and always will.



Agreed.  As everyone knows, lawyers (such as Enlil) usually settle arguments with fist fights.  Fortunately, we're a bit more civil here in California, and we can make most of our decisions by arm wrestling.  :shake:

Fragment said:
for this topic it seems ingrained from whoever or however we got here women have there place and so do men I find trying to cut that in half back fires. My mother was mentioning the other day the times were women power strikes it doesnt go well I turned to her and looked her dead in her eye and said "I know" This could go deeper into parenthood but im on a different forum with that no use in double mirrors.



Exactly.  Celestica, can you not see the intellectual superiority of the male mind by reading whatever it was that Fragment just wrote?  :wtf:

psilynut said:
Fragment said:
I wonder even if intellectual they can pass you should see the studies of when a male and women first talks the things she picks up on vs what we do and how each side acts....



I usually  pick on the jigglyness of the tits and how she chooses to display them.



If the previous post didn't convince you men have superior minds, then that one certainly should.  :crazy2:

psyconaught said:
male and female brains are also physically and chemically built different as well. Even if two twins were raised exactly the same way by society/parents they would still have major psychological differences strictly because one is male and one is female.



See that Celestica?  Even twins turn out differently.  Of course, it's impossible for male and female twins to be identical, so I guess we really shouldn't expect there to be any more similarity than if they were just plain brother/sister.  :facepalm:

zappaisgod said:
There are physical and functional differences between male and female brains.  It is a fact, not a theory.



That's true.  Celestica - pay no attention to the fact that many of these differences show that women are better at many things.  :shocked:


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Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (02/11/14 09:25 PM)

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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #19554761 -

what the fuck are you babbling about? The FACT (http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/how-male-female-brains-differ) that males and females have differing brain structures has nothing to do with equality.


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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: Celestica]
    #19554774 -

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If the previous post didn't convince you men have superior minds, then that one certainly should. 

That's true.  Celestica - pay no attention to the fact that many of these differences show that women are better at many things.





 
  That is true , my wife is smarter than me . She's way better at math and engineering. She can't change a tire  though or dig a hole she's kinda girly.


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Especially women?
It's true, but nowadays society is so much more. The real power doesn't lie at the construction workers anymore, it lies at the architects, engineers, politicians and the economic system. And in these administrative areas where the real power over society is, a woman is as capable as a man, because physical strenght isn't needed. The problem is that women still aren't let in there as easy as men.

And the last you wrote, that's just gross.

Regards
Celestica




 
Real power but not real opportunity for the masses .
  Your talking about 100k  plus a year jobs , which not allot of people in general  have.
    Well in that case really smart , exceptionally smart women  may not care about construction . But what if your just average .  Between job off shoring , technological unemployment , and construction not being a very good option I feel like the average woman has less opportunity than me .i don't have an upper body strength issue holding me back from doing any other available job. Women can't say the same . Must be able to lift x amount of pounds is not uncommon in job ads.  Maybe I'm wrong that's just how I feel looking at the world right now.

  By the way breasts are awesome . And how a women dresses can tell you allot about them . If they take the time to try on 20 different shirts in ten different stores to find find that special one that makes their boobs look like their gunna explode out due to some mystical force , you better take 2 sec to stare and appreciate ,  it's kinda rude if you dont.

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Re: Gender equality - will the positive trend continue into full equality, can psychedelics help? [Re: psilynut]
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When everything is fully equal according to a woman's mind she'll look like me and talk like me then ill have to date her sister which of course is fine.

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