jamminshaman said:

Set said:

No one "deserves" anything.

Forgive the person, not the behavior.

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Well his behavior deserves a response; justice. Justice is giving one what they deserve.

If someone is happy to hear that a guilty person is receiving punishment for their crimes, does that make it vengeance?

The way he took that girls life changed her family's life forever. I could not forgive someone who did that to someone I love. People like that should have pain inflicted upon them, just as they have done to other.

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Set said:

jamminshaman said:

Set said:

No one "deserves" anything.

Forgive the person, not the behavior.

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Well his behavior deserves a response; justice. Justice is giving one what they deserve.

If someone is happy to hear that a guilty person is receiving punishment for their crimes, does that make it vengeance?

The way he took that girls life changed her family's life forever. I could not forgive someone who did that to someone I love. People like that should have pain inflicted upon them, just as they have done to other.

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I don't believe in justice.

If everyone received justice I would be in prison or dead.  Most likely dead.

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Wiccan_Seeker said:

He says "unconscious in 15 seconds".  Two breaths of inert gas? No I don't believe that, nitrous experience shows me otherwise. Pigs maybe, but not humans.

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I explained that

He was breathing in and out of the bag, and rebreathing oxygen he had just exhaled. Fresh air is 20% O2, exhaled air has about 20% less, 16%-17%. You can breathe your own exhaled air quite a number of times.

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A typical human breathes between 12 and 20 times per minute at a rate primarily influenced by carbon dioxide concentration, and thus pH, in the blood. With each breath, a volume of about 0.6 litres is exchanged from an active lung volume (tidal volume + functional residual capacity) of about 3 litres. Normal Earth atmosphere is about 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, and 1% argon, carbon dioxide, and other gases. After just two or three breaths of nitrogen, the oxygen concentration in the lungs would be low enough for some oxygen already in the bloodstream to exchange back to the lungs and be eliminated by exhalation. Crude simulation of oxygen transport through the lungs and bloodstream suggests that the partial pressure of oxygen in arterial blood would be about 50% of saturation 1 minute after switching gases and would reach zero within 3 minutes.

Unconsciousness in cases of accidental asphyxia can occur within 1 minute. Loss of consciousness results from critical hypoxia, when arterial oxygen saturation is less than 60%.[1] "At oxygen concentrations [in air] of 4 to 6%, there is loss of consciousness in 40 seconds and death within a few minutes".[2] As this procedure provides an atmosphere completely devoid of oxygen, the sequence of effects should be expected to occur even more quickly. At an altitude over 43,000 ft (13,000 m), where the ambient oxygen concentration is equivalent to 3.6% at sea level, an average individual can perform flying duties efficiently for only 9 to 12 seconds without oxygen supplementation.[1] The US Air Force trains air crews to recognise their individual subjective signs of approaching hypoxia. Some individuals experience headache, dizziness, fatigue, nausea, or euphoria, but some become unconscious without warning.[1] Equivalent training is unlikely for a condemned individual, making unconsciousness without warning probable, although as much as a 30-second warning is possible.

Loss of consciousness may be accompanied by convulsions[1] and is followed by cyanosis and cardiac arrest. About 7 minutes of oxygen deprivation causes death of the brainstem.

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luvdemshrooms said:

Murderers should be killed in whatever fashion they killed their victims.

Rapists should have their cocks and balls cut off.

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Synthe said:

Why?

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Driving blacked out drunk for years, overdoses, beating people to the point that they probably should of died.

Like I said, if I received justice for horrible shit I've done I'd most likely be dead.

These days I spend my time trying to help people.  I try very hard to forgive people, just as I hope to be forgiven.

But like I said, forgive the person not the behavior.  There is a difference.

1slow2v said:

I think they should excute people the same way the murdered their victim or better yet just hang them without the fall

so i think he should have been raped with a broom stick first

Also he was the first person do be killed with the new drug since the ban of the old one that they used

So oh well....
There is always next time

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Bodhi of Ankou said:

I think the executioner should have to spend a week with the man hes about to execute. After a week he can either go through with it anyway he likes or spare him to life behind bars.

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Bodhi of Ankou said:

Hell, wjy dont we just bring public executions back and start burning them at the stake again. Nothing quite excites me as watching people languish in agony.

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Moonshoe said:

luvdemshrooms said:

Murderers should be killed in whatever fashion they killed their victims.

Rapists should have their cocks and balls cut off.

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Do you have any idea how psychologically damaging it would be for the people who had to carry out those sentences?

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