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Ganoderma
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Shiitake's
#1906194 - 09/11/03 03:07 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm looking for an alternite substrate to grow shiitake's off of, untill i can find a good supply of saw dust/wood chips.(i willstart by calling around to some of the local tree trimming services for freshly chipped wood) what are the different substrates that a shiitake can and will grow off of, in cluding the proportion of the mix/ and water content?
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YidakiMan
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Have you considered wood pellets?
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Ganoderma
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not really.
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Mycena
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Paper pellets work well or Coir/ coco-peat is advertised as a viable alternative by this site
http://www.mycelia.be/myccocoswerkw.htm
im going to make up some shiitake spawn and give it a go - its a hefty sized block so should be interesting
This material certainly works for P pulmonarius and G lucidum
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shirley knott
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Re: Shiitake's [Re: Mycena]
#1909755 - 09/12/03 01:35 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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can i crash this thread and ask for help? i'm too nervous to ask in a new one - never ventured into speaking in here before  ............................................... i've got a big box of oak sawdust being delivered after the weekend. i inoculated agar to wbs a few days ago. will this work: - it's what i've culled from the faqs' 'tabletop mushroom cultivation' section 
load sawdust into pillowcase. soak pillowcase in a pan in hot water for an hour or more, so it's really wet. drain pillowcase for a half hour or so. dump it out on an opened-up new trashbag. and spread it out. allow to cool to room temperature. scoop out fully +(?time) colonised grain and mix it in. pack it back into a clean ziplock. puncture the bag with some holes. (?) (better use a mycobag here or not?). leave it in the dark and warm. it may drain more (?on a clean towel - but wouldn't this be a contam risk?). then it all goes white over after... ?? 2 months? 3 months? then what?
have i got this right - when it's all white, do i then soak it in ice water for 2-3 days, drain it for a few hours, then place it.... where?
what kind of conditions can i set up indoors without too much technology? sorry this is such a noob question and all.................... 
shirl
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Paid
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Give this a read mate and add one cup of bran to each litre of oak chips. To much light, and too dry air are both things to avoid. Good luck mate.
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Ganoderma
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Re: Shiitake's [Re: Paid]
#1913888 - 09/13/03 08:23 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Miss Knott, just like cubies but with a lower fruiting temp. Always best to use a glove box with a flow hood, the cleaner the better. now when growing from blocks of wood you don't have to serilize/pasturize them, you just drill the holes and drive the plugs -so i have read-
So pete can be used to grow shiitakes?
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z@z.com
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From what I understand shittake mushrooms can be fruited off of just grain although it isn't ideal. (I'm trying this as we speak)
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Ganoderma
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Re: Shiitake's [Re: z@z.com]
#1917906 - 09/15/03 11:09 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Z, let me know how it turns out(every detail please). so how well does the shiitake mycelium colinized the grain, and what kind of grain(s) are you using
so if paper pellets work a bundle of news papers w/soy based ink(print) may also work then?
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