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Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes?
    #18879309 - 09/23/13 05:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Title pretty much sums it up. I want to take organic chemistry as far as I can go with it without having to enroll in other classes like math and english, well I would be willing to take mathematics, but nothing else . . .


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Re: Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #18879320 - 09/23/13 05:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Why would anyone need English to study Chemistry :wtfsonic:


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Re: Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #18879323 - 09/23/13 05:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

just walk into any college classroom and sit down for the course!!
I have a friend who didn't pay a dime and took all kinds of classes! hell he never even enrolled in the college!! just showed up:lol:

of course you can't get your certificate for the class like that but at least you gain the knowledge!!


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Re: Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18879326 - 09/23/13 05:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well I am pretty sure I would not be able to get an actual degree in chemistry without taking a lot of other courses, so I am just wondering if i could take just the chemistry alone for several semsters . . .


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Re: Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes? [Re: the mad machinest]
    #18879330 - 09/23/13 06:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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the mad machinest said:
just walk into any college classroom and sit down for the course!!
I have a friend who didn't pay a dime and took all kinds of classes! hell he never even enrolled in the college!! just showed up:lol:

of course you can't get your certificate for the class like that but at least you gain the knowledge!!




That would not work for the lab sessions


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Re: Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #18879340 - 09/23/13 06:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sure.  You can apply, and enroll in pretty much whatever college courses you want.  They'll gladly take your money.


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Re: Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes? [Re: mellowparty]
    #18879360 - 09/23/13 06:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Why would anyone need English to study Chemistry :wtfsonic:




I know what you mean, but on the flipside, I've met quite a few science majors that can't write for shit. Effective, concise writing is extremely important in science. You wouldn't believe some of the research papers/lab reports I've read. Absolutely atrocious grammar and syntax.


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Re: Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes? [Re: McTwist]
    #18879365 - 09/23/13 06:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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McTwist said: Effective, concise writing is extremely important in science.




This.  If you plan on attending graduate school and/or getting an advanced degree in science, your career will probably be 85% writing.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes? [Re: badchad]
    #18879368 - 09/23/13 06:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i can't believe that. seems like it should be 85% pouring chemicals from one erlenmeyer flask to another.


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Re: Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes? [Re: g00ru]
    #18879395 - 09/23/13 06:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It is nice if you can show that something can work in real life, But the important thing is: does it work in theory. . .


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Re: Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes? [Re: McTwist]
    #18879402 - 09/23/13 06:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
Why would anyone need English to study Chemistry :wtfsonic:




I know what you mean, but on the flipside, I've met quite a few science majors that can't write for shit. Effective, concise writing is extremely important in science. You wouldn't believe some of the research papers/lab reports I've read. Absolutely atrocious grammar and syntax.



Yeah but you're supposed to take English or whatever language in school not university. I never payed any attention in [Language] class. I could still write the best essay in the class (and by far) but would always fail if I had to present unoriginal thoughts (memorized bullshit that nobody cares about).

I had to take a state exam and found myself in a situation where I had to perfectly learn 2 years worth of material in 2 months. I got 100% :cool:

Also writing in an engaging scientific style is not something you learn in class. It comes from reading many, many papers, journals and books.

Its a talent. I've got it and most people don't.


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Re: Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes? [Re: g00ru]
    #18879473 - 09/23/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i can't believe that. seems like it should be 85% pouring chemicals from one erlenmeyer flask to another.




That's what laboratory technicians (pipette jockeys) are for.  Typically, a research professor will be writing about the results, writing for grants, writing papers, writing, and writing. 

I do agree that scientific writing is much different than standard "English class" writing.  Even within the domain of "scientific writing", the style will vary considerably depending on whether you're writing a textbook, journal article, regulatory submission etc. etc.  However, the basic foundations of writing that one can learn in an English class, or even a "creative writing" class are very beneficial IMO.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes? [Re: badchad]
    #18879481 - 09/23/13 07:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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badchad said:
laboratory technicians (pipette jockeys)





I prefer "bench bitch".


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Re: Could I take several years of chemistry without enrolling in other classes? [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #18879488 - 09/23/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In most schools you can enroll as a "sit-in" in which you take the course, do all of the work, but get no grade & earn no degree. Spots are limited, but it's free if you can get in.


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