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Offlinemellowparty
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Depression resembles cancer
    #18802404 - 09/05/13 07:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

They are both physical malfunctions of the body. They are both deadly, potentially treatable and can happen to anyone.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty] * 1
    #18802412 - 09/05/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:derail:


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OfflinePatlal
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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802413 - 09/05/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I agree. Depression is like a cancer. It's more debilitating than cancer IMO


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802419 - 09/05/13 08:01 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:lolwut:
How the fuck are you going to compare depression to cancer?


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #18802424 - 09/05/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

One key difference is that diagnosis of cancer is far less subjective.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802427 - 09/05/13 08:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

But do you think depression can lead to cancer?


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: psi]
    #18802428 - 09/05/13 08:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

And has nothing to do with one being an actual disease.
Ok, this thread, I'm done with.
/hidethread


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18802433 - 09/05/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

volcomstoner said:
:lolwut:
How the fuck are you going to compare depression to cancer?



I didn't say they are the same but I can compare if I want to and there is nothing you can do about it how you like them apples :tongue:


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty] * 2
    #18802436 - 09/05/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If Walter White had depression, nothing would've happened.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: smack]
    #18802450 - 09/05/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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And has nothing to do with one being an actual disease.



:orly:


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802473 - 09/05/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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psi said:
One key difference is that diagnosis of cancer is far less subjective.




Yeah, there really isn't an objective diagnosis of depression, although in truth, there is some degree of subjective diagnosis in cancer grading/staging as well.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: psi] * 3
    #18802479 - 09/05/13 08:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

psi said:
One key difference is that diagnosis of cancer is far less subjective.



Yeah. And those without cancer don't say to those with cancer 'Quit being a pussy and just walk it off.'


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: badchad]
    #18802481 - 09/05/13 08:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

There are definitely changes happening inside depressed brains but its not possible to assay them diagnostically. Anything from chromatin alterations to signal transduction fails and beyond.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802489 - 09/05/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
There are definitely changes happening inside depressed brains but its not possible to assay them diagnostically. Anything from chromatin alterations to signal transduction fails and beyond.




Agreed.  But when hundreds of different labs are publishing hundreds of different theories as to wtf is going on, it really adds up to a whole lot of speculation and guessing.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802490 - 09/05/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What I'm often wondering, can depression actually be cured? I don't mean treated, but cured, like gone forever? Or does it always linger somewhere just waiting for an opportunity to spring back up?


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Konyap]
    #18802513 - 09/05/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

aiyobro said:
:derail:





Turn back now.  This thread contains nothing good.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Tangich]
    #18802552 - 09/05/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

psilocybin is known to help with depression


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Brakepad] * 3
    #18802568 - 09/05/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Brakepad said:
psilocybin is known to help with depression



Or exacerbate certain types of it.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802626 - 09/05/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The fatality of the diseases is not comparable at all. Cancer, if left untreated, will definitely result in passing away. On the other hand, many people leave depression untreated but still have enough will to live healthy lifestyles and while sad will remain living.

Cancer is more of a black and white thing.

Depression is completely in the gray.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Snotfish]
    #18802631 - 09/05/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

True, but others do end up killing themselves. The fatality rate is definitely not as high as with cancer but it is not negligible either.


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